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This one was a bit of an eye roll…he’s describing the same situation as can happen now…

It’s already the rule in HS…

I can’t tell if this conversation is sarcasm, but here’s one from 2002 https://wsucougars.com/sports/2002/3/8/207882724.aspx

add this guy to the best names thread

Try a different device...you may have already read your "limit"

When talking about Cornell specifically, I think the main complaint is about their advantage over other Ivies. I personally don't really have an issue with Cornell, but I think this is just yet another example of exploiting the gray area around RTC rules.

Depends who's defining "bigger issue," but I know some have complained that it is apparently much easier to get into Cornell as a transfer student than as a traditional high school graduate. Not sure if this differs at all from other Ivies.

I was more interpreting the keycard discussion as only wrestlers had access and not all students, but not really sure.

Starts around 3:05. He doesn’t clarify but is referring to the Ivy rules. I know this isn’t breaking news but I’m moreso not crazy about the aspect of the RTC system in general where it is legal for non-students to use school facilities yet somehow still claim that the RTC’s aren’t affiliated with the schools. This particular facility is for wrestling only and Yianni explains that the team members have access cards specific to the facility. I wonder if the grayshirts get access cards as well…

Cenzo out according to Basch (check the comments)

They practice at the same time as the college team, but using a different mat in a separate gym. Cool facilities though.

Think we’ll see a Morgan State/Iowa dual?

Tom Brands too?

Agree, but I’d assume if they were to see it from here it’d be either Spey or Kozak relaying the message to someone

Do we know they saw it? Most of them don't like message boards and I feel like I haven't seen Spey around here in awhile

Was there actually a question about whether DuPont killed Schultz initially? In a different old article from 1996, Tom says “if it turns out DuPont did kill Schultz…” https://vault.si.com/vault/1996/06/03/wrestlemania-the-brands-twins-who-live-to-inflict-pain-on-the-mat-are-on-track-for-the-atlanta-olympics

Interesting article from 1996 https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1996-06-11-9606110207-story.html

Speaking of Flo “not trying,” I don’t understand why they would show earlier rounds of tournaments for free on YouTube (obviously because they want people to subscribe for the later rounds), but not even have announcers?

oh?

What was the point of your comment saying 2021's PSU team was "very young"? You're proving my point because the 3 "very young" champs from 2021 that were in the 2020 lineup were a year younger and certainly no guarantee they would have all also won in 2020, especially considering the guys that were in their brackets in 2020 that were not in the bracket in 2021. No one sane is giving Iowa credit for actually winning in 2020, but it's extremely likely that they would have

sorry this should say assuming PSU still wins at 133, 141, 174 & 184. Keep in mind 2020 was Brooks' true freshman year, 133 had Gross & Rivera who both had wins over RBY that year, and Nick Lee had just lost to Pletcher at B10's.

"But" nothing. 2021 actually happened. There is nothing to speculate about in regards to 2021. Are you just making up scenarios now where a free year was given to 2020 seniors for 2021? Hall is a wash if that's what you're implying, because if he's in the lineup Starocci isn't. Essentially it comes down to if you think Cenzo/Rasheed/Verkleeren in 2020 could outscore Kerkvliet/Beard/Berge/Howard in 2021 by 16 (assuming PSU still wins at 133, 141, and 174 and Lee is Iowa's only champ). Highly doubtful, unless you start getting into scenarios like Lee pulling a 2023.

The point is Iowa underperformed and PSU overperformed in 2021…and Iowa still won by 15.5.

Well they won by 15.5 in 2021 with an overall underperformance (including a #1 seed DNP’ing) with essentially the same team they had in 2020, and an overperformance from PSU whose team was pretty comparable to what they had in 2020. I’d never be shocked by PSU winning, but the chances were pretty slim and I think it’s fair to say Iowa was in all likelihood robbed. This is a weird post from you though because I’m pretty sure I was one of the few giving PSU a chance in 2021 and IIRC you said there was no way. After seeing what happened in 2021 you were probably closer to correct back then. Not impossible, but it would’ve taken a massive implosion for Iowa to lose in 2020 (and another overperformance from PSU, but that would’ve been more likely).