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From a Feb 2014 ESPN article about grayshirting: “Nobody really remembers when it first began. Some coaches say it's been around forever, while others say it started to catch on only over the past 10 years. ” Giving credit to the term “gray shirt” to Mike Grey and changing the spelling would have been a great story.

Yep … and if you read the article from JAN 08 you would see that the article is based on the premise it’s already been going on for awhile.

Cmon now …. Read the article at least. January 08 is as close as you get to 07. If you read the article it’s partly based on the previous season and it’s written under the premise that it’s been going on for awhile.

The “all situations where the wrestler grasps the ankle “ will help at least stop one aspect of top stalling

Debatable. SB nations article from January of 2008 referring to it as “gray shirt” in the context of what was happening in football at the time. https://www.dawgsports.com/platform/amp/2008/1/15/155239/437

Sure... they could duplicate it or keep complaining that it's unfair. I guess there is probably a lesson in here somewhere about that...

I would agree that Mike Grey is allowed to coin the term for Cornell usage On a side note, I think he earned it for what he did this past season... along with coach of the year IMO.

Well… (pause for follow-up thought) Sports Illustrated, SB nation and USA Today use “grayshirt” Athletic Scholarships uses “grey shirt”

Not a bad lineup.... LR putting together a good roster for a newer program. IMO getting Dutton and Bailey were huge for their program. They are becoming a model for starting a program and building from scratch. I hope to see them get an AA soon... the first NC to come from that program will be royalty.

Agree... and I have no poblem with it. If they can get a "redshirt" the same as other NCAA teams by using a "gray shirt" system, then they are on equal ground. If the other Ivies don't like it, they should start their own "gray shirt" program. I'm always mystified by those who think it's cheating when all it's doing is putting them on the same level as every non-Ivie team in the country. They are doing nothing wrong... more power to them for being innovative.

Will the coaches rankings now be more accurate with the minimum matches being two? If I recall, some guys were left out of rankings because of matches wrestled, not because they did not deserve to be there.

Would you diagram that sentence please.

It also just represents a pause....sign up for Grammerly today.

I don't mean to be a jerk...but ... stop misspelling disc golf.

Yep - that's a good comparison. Man, Carrol is a beast.

Do you still have eligibility? I would come watch.

Attao has some serious thighs on him.... Hopke could not finish. Hopke needs to fill out - he's got the frame for it, but Attao looked twice as thick and his gut wrench is elite. 57 kg was a barn burner as well.... two tough weights.

Man... Attao just steam rolled everyone to the best of 3 with Carroll.

BAHAHA.... yes, because your answer was to me... if you wanted to respond to DJT you actually quote him and put the response....not me.

Haven’t we all at 11:59 pm

Kinda looks like you were..,,

Nobody was criticizing the handling of Lee ? Ok Other than the Long incident from 11 years ago, what issues has PSU wrestling been involved in? Seems Iowa has had more issues in the last 2 months, from Bob to gambling , than PSU has had in the last 12 years. PSU athletics..... wrestling? What does male -female discrepancy have to do with the wrestling program? My earlier post was about wrestling...not the athletic departments. wrestling coaches have no bearing over that. That would be like lumping brands in with a cross country scandal.

I get that these kids eventually get recruited by colleges, but this is probably more of a high school thread.

Why would he want him when he can take the #10 recruit, develop him into a machine, then major a #1 recruit 2 years later? It's not like there is a lot separating the top recruits and everyone knows PSU is going to out develop Iowa. Let's see.... Spencer Lee issues, gambling, Chittum up and leaving .... seems that Iowa has been swirled in controversy for awhile, yet PSU is keeping their hands clean. Why would Carl want that disaster when he just brought in Messenbrink? I'm a non-fan of both teams, but he proof is the pudding.