red viking

Yes, it proves my point that, overall, the Republicans are the party of the rich. Dems have slightly more upper income people but there other 4 categories demonstrate that the wingers are richer, overall.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/partisanship-by-family-income-home-ownership-union-membership-and-veteran-status/ Data proving that the Republicans are the party of the rich

Well said. I have no issues with anything you wrote here.

Well, plenty of wingers on here are supporting their claims.

DOGE backers should back up the bs claims made by DOGE instead of accepting them at face value (drinking the Kool AId) and re-reporting them as fact. BACK IT UP!!! I CHALLENGE YOU!!!

Of course it's never one factor. The elite wrestlers ALWAYS worked hard but are also typically privileged. Plenty of talented poor kids that are also willing to work hard but never became NCAA champs because they weren't given the opportunity. That's just reality. Welcome to the real world. Yah; there are a few rednecks in the backwoods that are dumb. SOME of them are poor (and some Democrats are stinking rich) but, on average, the wingers are the party of the elite.

Onus is on the wi Onus is on the wingers to back up their own claims. Plenty of sources have looked into this though and demonstrated pretty well that DOGE is flat out lying. Yes, they are "mainstream" sources. Oh, the horror and evil of that.

The whole reason this came up is to explain why a lot of elite wrestlers (not sure about the percentage though; probably not as high as the wingers think) lean Republican. They tend to come from wealthier families and are privileged. The Republicans are the party of the elite and privileged people that are out of touch with the real world.

"Proving" stuff with the wingers is a never-ending vortex. You'll find something within the proof that also needs to be "proved." You may even ask a "proof" that the sky is blue. You don't even trust anything in the media or that comes from true research by people w/ PhDs. Instead relying on what Fox and Breitbart tell you. I don't play those games. If you take your red-tinted goggles off, the reliable information is all out there. Fact is that DOGE hasn't backed up any of their B.S. extragent claims about the amount of money they are saving and virtually none of that money is actually "fraud." Onus is on the wingers to prove that the claims made by DOGE are true. Not from people like me to prove that they're untrue.

Thanks for the reminder. Yah; a lot of things more important than politics.

Any fraud whatsoever? ZERO times. BAM!!!!!

Zero people said fraud doesn't exist. That's a strawman argument. I'd like you to show that it exists to anything close to the extent that DOGE claims.

You can simply Google the stuff he said about all these super old people that "dont' exist" collecting social security checks and the fact-check information.

Huh? So the opportunities for wrestling greatness are available to any kid that "chooses" it? Anything close to the same opportunities to the children of wealthy people? Seriously? You that out of touch with reality? If you really think that, please explain how a kid growing up in the inner city and attending a public school that probably doesn't even have a wrestling program or barely has one and he has to work nights and weekends to scrape by and can't attend one of these elite rich kid academies has anything close to an equal opportunity.

Thousands of people that are 150 years old or so collecting social security checks. Also, repeatedly lied about the amount of money they are "saving" the federal govt and that it was due to "fraud." All they've done for the most part is eliminate programs and fire employees but the amount was lower than claimed and almost none of it was actually "fraud." All they do is lie.

Another strawman argument. Nobody ever said that there wasn't SS fraud. This has been recognized for decades. However, it isn't nearly as bad as DOGE claims. They've repeatedly lied about the extent of it.

Huge overlap. Yes, some poor kids get opportunities but not nearly as many.

Wrestling has become a sport of the haves and have nots, just like most other sports. It's not as extreme as sports like hockey but that doesn't mean there are huge advantages for privileged kids. It used to be that you could be a successful wrestler just starting out on the high school team as a freshman. Extremely hard to do now since the rich kids are now practicing at the academies year round starting in elementary school and also travelling to tournaments around the country. That's very discouraging to the kid starting out in 9th grade, or maybe even earlier. They get absolutely destroyed by these kids that have no other worries in life so they can just train wrestling year-round with elite coaches.

Incredibly racist, to assume that every minority kid is poor.

Pretty ignorant to think there's a level playing field in sports, particularly non revenue sports, just because inner city schools do fine at basketball and only basketball. If you can't see the differences here, you are completely lost.

Funny you mention....had plenty of opportunities for a lot more that I turned down but I do fine between main job, side gigs and my fiances sweet job.

Football is a huge revenue producing sport, so people look hard and recruit for talent wherever they can. Inner city included. Talented kids are found and plucked out and given a chance. Nobody is looking for naturally gifted wrestlers in the inner city. No doubt there are plenty but they're mostly left in the dust. However, inner city public school almost always suck at football and the top teams are almost always wealthy schools.

Natural ability is more important for ball and it takes less money to play. Cultural factors at play too. There are no wrestling mats at the local park.

Well, they agree on this. At least the ones w actual PhDs

Us getting "screwed over" by countries like Canada is more trump kool-aid. Keep drinking it.