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Love me some JC on this forum! He has cornered the market on provocative posts and has full license to take as many angles as necessary - even if directly contradictory. Part of the beauty and majesty of forum JC. I wonder if he is as fun at a bar?

JC is underappreciated as a provocative poster - even when he might be pulling our leg. Stop the hate - thanks JC!

2026 NCAA Champ PSU did not see that coming list: Ventresca Seidel Vega Buesgens Larkin Bianchi Minto Conway Rademacher Taylor

I like it. Also: (i) in OT, if no score after 2 minutes SV its a tie and both teams get 2; (ii) to minimize ties, in OT there is a 1 point push out rule. Current system after firstr OT sucks like PK's in soccer - too arbitrary.

Did the EIWA use wildcards to send some of those wrestlers to NCAA's.? Seems like some equitable adjustment was in order. I wish John Harmon was still around - he would know.

Penn's posted probable lineup not a model of certainty: Penn's Probable Lineup vs. Columbia 125: #29 Davis Motyka or Brady Pruett 133: #13 Evan Mougalian or Deven Casey 141: #7 CJ Composto or Nate Taylor 149: #8 Cross Wasilewski or Kelly Dunnigan 157: #13 Jude Swisher or Wyatt Stout 165: #19 Sean Seefeldt 174: Caden Bellis or Lance Urbas 184: Greyson Meak or Liam Carlin 197: Martin Cosgrove 285: John Pardo or John Vinciguerra

A lot of board interest in Ivy wrestling! Do not overlook the Columbia Lions who put a whomping on the Tigers - taking 9 of 10 matches. I iknow Columbia was pretty tough but did not see that coming. Penn had to come back late to beat the Lions in New York last year - should be quite a battle in the Palestra rescheduled for tonight at 7 PM (ESPN+). Here is the box score from Columbia over Princeton: 165: #29 Cesar Alvan (Columbia) def. #16 Ty Whalen (Princeton) | Decision, 4-2 174: #28 Nick Fine (Columbia) def. Holden Garcia (Princeton) | Decision, 5-3 184: Joe Curtis (Columbia) def. Xavier Giles (Princeton) | Fall, 1:00 197: #32 Jack Wehmeyer (Columbia) def. Gabe Garibaldi (Princeton) | Tech Fall, 17-1 285: #32 Vincent Mueller (Columbia) def. Connor McClocksey (Princeton) | Tech Fall, 15-0 125: Sulayman Bah (Columbia) def. Dale O'Blia (Princeton) | Tech Fall, 20-3 133: Evin Gursoy (Columbia) def. Dan Jones (Princeton) | Decision, 3-0 141: #20 Lorenzo Frezza (Columbia) def. Matthew Martino (Princeton) | Decision, 13-9 149: Eligh Rivera (Princeton) def. Richard Fedalen (Columbia) | Decision, 10-7 157: #20 Kai Owen (Columbia) def. Rocco Camillaci (Princeton) | Decision, 9-4 I will see if there is a post of probably lineups for tonight. Would surmise that Lions are favored from at least 174 though 285. Can they win a fifth match and win the dual meet?

unlucky. Hope he is ok. 133 is a great weight and healthy is makes it even more fun.

These things can change, but I think the league rules have been and remain a larger barrier for Ivy wrestling programs to compete in the top ten of NCAA division one. The league intends to have amatuerism in athletics and will steer away from too much emphasis on athletic success in several ways. It is a small miracle what Cornell has built. AMong other things like date restrictions, on recruiting there is an academic index that limits admissions slots, The number of athletic recruits on levels lower on that index that can be recruited are regulated and limited. Some schools may spend those lower slots on a one set of sports and some may spend them on another. Some programs get more slots for wrestling and it changes over the years. While it is true that Harvard and Yale (who dropped wrestling sadly) have very large endowments, that does not mean that those funds are going to be applied to wrestling programs or wrestling program, coaching, or infastructure. One poster denigrated the relative funds of Cornell, but the Big Red has had many large donors who earmarked gifts for wrestling. Some gy named Friedman? Same at Penn and I think Princeton (not as sure about those Tiger details). I do not know details, but I doubt that Harvard has had the kind of donor support directed to wrestling that Cornell and Penn have had. Also, somewhat of a geographic defecit - New England wrestling is a little thin at the schoolboy level. It can make a difference.

Has Cornell ever cancelled for snow or cold?

Vega deserves listing and is going to be a lot of fun for Cowboy fans!

Words can hurt. The programs care plenty. Ivies have no scholarship $$ and limits on who can get admitted based on academic index standards. Have to compete for recruits with scholarship programs with good academics. Limited pool or recruits and league limits on special admits for athletics.

I think Rocco deserves #1 rank by default, but remain skeptical that he has enough offense to win NCAA's against the field. I will tip my hat to his match strategy last night and acknowledge that he has solid defense and not easy to ride.

I have many shortcomings and cooking is one of them. Anybody have a good recipe for crab cakes? I like to eat them.

JC makes some good points even if he is being provocative. Only so much their guys can do up against the crazy talent and skills of PSU.

Coaching and recruiting can only do some much. I am no Iowa fanboy, but they are fine they just are not in PSU's class of talent and perhaps a full step behind Ohio State and OkState as well. Its cyclical, but I do not think its necessarily "fixed" by a new head coach. I look at it instead as a small miracle how strong they were for how long and its just tougher now for an Iowa program to win the top NCAA prize.

Word is a few Penn guy’s registered are now out w flu bug. No bueno. Hope they feel better soon.

133 is one heck of a fun and deep weight. Probably Blaze, Davino, and Byrd in the top 3 at the end of the NCAAs, but the field is deep and mean and it could get wild. Do not sleep on Evan Mougalian, from unranked and now at # 13. Could be a giant killer if he can hold the weight.

Big Ten Network - got it!

who is streaming this match? help please!

I think JC meant, would finish as a 3x champ and undefeated this year whilst beating the tar out of everyone. Not sure he is going to end up undefeated, Vega, Echemendia, Romney have some tricks and Hardy has tricks and experience. Shouldn't Duke at least be a darkhorse, even though 157 is not considered a deep weight?

Makes sense for their unique situation - that room and where so many are getting high level freestyle competition. Load management, less is more. Their big B1G duals and the B1G tourney are not cupcake. Would love to see a OK State scheduling soon though - would be good for the sport.

posts like this are why this is such a great place for college wrestling fans to keep up with the sport - thanks!

I did not witness it, but recall that Mean Gene Mills reportedly got a late start with wrestling (by NJ standards) but seemed to be all caught up by his NCAA wrestling days as Syracuse! Syracuse no longer sponsors D1 wrestling, which is unfortunate.

maybe - did they really get 10K for that game (or ever) at NW?