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  1. 11 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

    Is that a yes or no? Because Jimmy is saying civilians lose their legal protections if they support Hamas. That is the question. Yes or no. 

    That's also been the implicit argument of many on here. We shouldn't feel bad for civilians because they didn't stand up to Hamas. 

    And you can keep saying they aren't targeting civilians all you want. It's not "verified" and there is tons of evidence to suggest otherwise, but leave that aside for the moment and just answer the question straight up: 

    does israel have the right to kill palestinian civilians if they support hamas?

     

    You can't read can you.  

    20 minutes ago, mspart said:

    Willfully ignorant.  

    Civilians are killed in every war and UB.   Quit pretending they are not.   You make it sound like the IDF is targeting civilians.   They are not.   That is verified.  I gave you a list of numbers of civilians killed in war and you disregarded it.   That's on you.   It happens, it is war.   Lots of people die both soldier and civilian.   Its what happens.   They shouldn't be targeted but to win a war, people have to die.   That is the definition of war.   It ain't pretty. 

    mspart

    I gave you an answer and that's not good enough for you or you just can't read past the first few words. 

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  2. 17 minutes ago, braves121 said:

    So Trump did not falsify his business records and listed a hush money payment as a legal expense?

    I'm not saying Trump did or didn't do something here.  I'm saying the trial was a farce and with those charges never should have been accepted into trial except they shopped for the right judge that would do the DA's bidding.   And he did. 

    You can't even answer the specifics here.  You only state generalities which is all this trial was about.   I have never heard of an indictment or charges that were not specific.   But that was the case here.  Here's another specific for you.   Why did the DOJ and FEC not prosecute if Trump did something wrong?   They didn't.   Why didn't the judge allow the ex head of FEC to be a witness.  Because he would have said Trump did nothing financially wrong.   Judge couldn't allow such testimony.  

    https://jonathanturley.org/2024/06/03/buzz-kill-the-trump-conviction-presents-a-target-rich-environment-for-appeal/

    Merchan also barred the use of a legal expert, former FEC Chair Brad Smith, who was prepared to testify that such payments cannot be viewed as federal election violations and would not affect the election even if they were considered contributions, since they would not even have had to be reported until after the election.

    These things and others make this case rife with irregularities that the result will be overturned on appeal.   But the DA and judge have won the battle but I think in due time, will lose the war.   And if all is done properly, judge Merchan will be roasted for the incompetently run pre-trial and trial.  

    mspart

     

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  3. Just now, BuckyBadger said:

    Not true, there is a reason that people are arrested and questioned all the time for taking photographs of the White House etc. When it comes to embassies etc, letting a large crowd gather that could potentially be hostile is incredibly foolish. An enormous amount of money/resources is required for security. You are either being dishonest or willfully ignorant.

    Willfully ignorant.  

    4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

    Sure. They should do it. Now what? If they don't, you think we should kill them?

    Answer the question.

    Civilians are killed in every war and UB.   Quit pretending they are not.   You make it sound like the IDF is targeting civilians.   They are not.   That is verified.  I gave you a list of numbers of civilians killed in war and you disregarded it.   That's on you.   It happens, it is war.   Lots of people die both soldier and civilian.   Its what happens.   They shouldn't be targeted but to win a war, people have to die.   That is the definition of war.   It ain't pretty. 

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  4. 12 minutes ago, braves121 said:

    they had no trials or convictions. very hard to compare to Trump lmao moving the goal posts

    Braves, they didn't need to.  By  signing they signed their own death warrant.  In a time of war, there weren't jury trials.   If you are that guy, and you signed that paper, you are a traitor.   Death is the end of your story if we catch you.   There was no trial needed in wartime.  

    If you want to call what happened to Trump a trial, then you are welcome to it.   It was a farce pure and simple. 

    mspart

     

  5. Also, I think those calling Trump a convicted felon are premature.   There are ample law experts that think the whole thing was illegitimate from the indictment, to the witnesses that were allowed, to the amount of objections from defense overruled and amount of prosecution not overruled, to the judge saying what could be said during closing arguments and the prosecution disregarding and the judge allowing it, to the final jury instructions. 

    If his conviction is overturned by appeal, he was not properly convicted.   What will those calling him a convicted felon then say?  

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  6. 3 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

    voting against our better interests... 

    isn't that what we are supposed to do... to ensure the safety/health of our nation?

    ask not what your govt can do for you...

     

    we should vote for what is right and best... not what will get us the most pork

    Correctomundo!!

    mspart

  7. He is realizing that it was not the political haymaker he thought it was.   And with the very short attn span of the US electorate, they will probably buy the snake oil that Biden has always been concerned with holding down illegal immigration, and that it was Congress' fault for not doing anything.   Hopefully people are smarter and have longer memories than that.   We can only hope.

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  8. The detail to be looked at are the few swing states.

    https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/

    Michigan is 3.2% for Trump.  AZ is 2.7% for Trump.  NV is 6% for Trump.  GA 5.3% for Trump.  PA is 2.7% for Trump.   WI is 1% for Biden.   NC is 5.6% for Trump.  

    This bodes well for Trump in the electoral college.    This represents 176 electoral votes, if we eliminate WI because it is currently for Biden, that is 166 electoral votes for Trump in the swing states.   He needs 104 from other states to secure the win.  

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/electoral-college-map?game-id=2024-PG-CNN-ratings&game-view=map

    I can't get a picture but they have a map of the US and probable outcomes.   Trump has 272 probable electoral votes and Biden has 225 probable electoral votes.  

    Yep, if I was Biden I'd take NM1965's advice and just be overconfident. 

    mspart

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  9. Yeah, we worked from home and then were told to work in office 4 days a week.   We get to work from home 1 day a week.   I resisted at first with the same comments braves is making.   I have been out for 2 months working from home for the last 3 weeks.  I can't go into the office so it is good to have this opportunity.   But I am ready to go back in, I just need someone to take me as I can't drive anymore for awhile.   I like working in the office.   More and better connections with coworkers.   But being at home once a week is nice too.  

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  10. 2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

    "See how that goes for you."

    Yeah, it's almost like they're an armed terror group who kills dissenters!

    Zero self awareness to post that and then pretend not to understand why Palestinians haven't overthrown them.

    It's almost like you haven't studied history.   Lots of regimes have been overthrown when the peasants have had enough.    France, South America, most of Africa, most of the communist world.   And that is just recent history.  It not like it has never happened, but it is impossible for this group to do so.   Yeah right.  

    mspart

  11. That won them 74 out of 132 seats.   So they  figured out how to get enough people to vote for them, or it is dumb luck that they won a majority of seats with a 44.45% (you got it wrong) of the vote. 

    That's 56.1% of the seats (a majority) with 44.45% of the vote.   You should go there and tell them they are illegitimate since you are so against Hamas.  See how that goes for you. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election

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  12. Yeah, judges in NY are not allowed to make political donations.   Yet Merchan did.  Also, he presided over other Trump allies' trials.   The assigning of a judge is supposed to be random.   Obviously not.   They found the judge that they needed who illegally donated to Biden and democrats.   And the assignment was not random.   Even from that standpoint, this trial was a farce.   Not to mention that no one still knows what was actually alleged and what the jurors came up with to convict on all counts.  

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-legal-guru-says-new-york-trump-prosecutors-contorted-law-case-unjustified-mess

    Even CNN legal analyst Elie Honig did not agree with the premise of the trial.   I'll leave it to you to read the article. 

    It is not universally accepted that the trial was proper or fair.  

    mspart

     

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  13. So what you want is for Israel to go in and physically separate the civilians from the Hamas insurgents before killing the insurgents.   Is that correct?   And how would you propose to do that?   It is even Israel's fault when it is Hamas' fault (recent 45 civilians die due to Hamas ammo warehouse exploding in a civilian area).   If IDF forces hid behind Gaza civilians you would howl and scream that they are breaking international law.   But you complain with Hamas does the same and civilians die in the process.   There is no howling and screaming.  

    You can't see the difference here I'm sure.   But you can certainly say that IDF forces could use Gazan human shields the same that Hamas does.   The difference is that IDF doesn't do that.   But Hamas is not at fault for doing so.   It is IDFs fault for targeting Hamas operatives and civilians die because the operatives use them as shields.   Your position is logically illogical and makes no sense.   If I was a civilian, I'd stay away from Hamas at all costs.   Let them die.   I don't want to die.   Which begs another question that you don't bother to ask and I would be surprised if you would even come up with it.  It follows and is a very easy point/question to come up with with the above line of reasoning. 

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