ThreePointTakedown

The rhetoric you a currently use to talk about this group and the disinformation you are spreading about 'fathers' is actively convincing others to take up the same banner. That banner prevents compassion and sympathy for people that need help. Your place of privilege gives you the opportunity to demonize a group you feel as 'less than' you and undeserving of support. THAT is what you are doing to keep them in a hole that we all agree, they are in. Explain that away?

If you are making a counter point, please back it up with information or evidence? If not its just a feeling(emotion) and those are not valid in a debate. When I say 'we' I mean all of us in society. Both past and present. You've done it by knowing that there is a problem and not helping which is understandable because there are WAY TOO many problems for you to address personally OR seeing the problem and demonizing the people involved, making it seem as if they are unworthy of help/support OR not knowing about the problem(again that's not as bad because of the total tonnage of problems in this country) OR purposefully avoiding learning anything about problems to ensure your plausible deniability. I've done all these things. And as much as I would like to help I can only do so much. But having conversations with people that call them 'gang kids' is infuriating. Because it doesn't help and could actively convince others(who might be inclined to help) to not help. If you don't want them to be helped, ok. But at least be honest as to why? Because they are kids and kids deserve our compassion regardless of their situation in life.

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/study-black-dads-more-involved-in-childrenss-lives-than-other-groups/ https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr071.pdf Here is an article and data to show that inner city black and Latino fathers are more involved with their kids than we all thought or are told.

I never mentioned anything about the participation or lack there of from fathers. Can you help me understand where you are coming from by offering up some information about that comment and your point of view?

How can you honestly type something like that? I’m not being sarcastic. With all the information of redlining and the effects of white flight that we know of and have easy access to over the years. How can you be so cold and mean when talking about potentially helping KIDS that are need of the bare minimum of education? Lumping them all as ‘gang kids’. Mu sister taught K in an inner city schools for 15 years. The kids are just regular kids. The parents that belong to a disenfranchised group tend to not encourage the importance of education. It’s because of the decades of your similar attitude reflected back to them by political leaders for generations. Please, please, before you start thinking about 'victim mentality' or a slogan about bootstraps. Please, just consider that this problem is decades or centuries in the making. And calling kids, and they are kids, 'gang kids' is not helpful and could lead one to believe that no matter what solutions to this problem is suggested that you would be against it because of the bias you are boldly announcing with that phrasing. One black president does not mean that the problem has been solved or even adequately addressed. No one is attacking YOU for any reason. This is just to let you know that there is, likely, information you and, until recently, I have not been exposed to. Nothing is being taken away from you if/when an historically neglected population is offered a helping hand out of the hole, we ALL put them in.

I guess a few things. Firstly, 140+ views and not one researched the validity of the post. Secondly, if they had they would’ve seen the similarities between this and a story about and quoting Reagan in the 60’s. With shockingly similar rhetoric to 47. Attacking the very things that stand in opposition to fundamental conservatism, knowledge and learning. Also, seeing the similarities between the two. Both celebrities made famous by lying to the masses. Convincing them they are someone they are not. Then going into politics attacking the same people their billionaire backers see as the obstacles to more power. Thirdly, what did Reagan do? Killed free or cheap tuition. Limiting higher education to those who could afford it. 47 rails against student loan forgiveness. Loans being a measure put in place as a bandage to address Reagan’s war on education. For some reason people are happy with the result.

In his 2025 campaign for President, Republican 47 promised to "to clean up the mess at Harvard and Columbia." 47 was referring to the unrest prevalent not just at Harvard and Columbia, but on college campuses throughout country. Students and faculty alike were engaged in protests, demonstrations, and strikes related to issues such as the Gaza, civil rights, discrimination, and women’s rights. In one 2024 campaign speech, 47 declared that many leftist campus movements had transcended legitimate protest, with the actions of "ANTIFA, radi­cals and filthy speech advocates" having become more to do "with riot­ing, with anarchy" than "academic freedom." He blamed university administrators and faculty, who "press their particular value judgments" on students, for "a leadership gap and a morality and decency gap" on campus, and suggested a code of conduct be imposed on faculty to "force them to serve as examples of good behavior and decency."

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) is an anti-immigration group that has been branded a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).[1] FAIR calls itself an "organization of concerned citizens who share a common belief that our nation's immigration policies must be reformed to serve the national interest."[2] It was formed in 1979 by population control advocate and nativist John Tanton, who believes that immigration is a significant part of the US population "problem," and is part of the anti-immigrant John Tanton Network.[3][4] http://sourcewatch.org/index.php/Federation_for_American_Immigration_Reform Not great to site a source from a hate group. Not helping your case.

So it doesn’t take a village. The nuclear family is all that matters. Good fences make good neighbors. That’s an opinion. I hope the resources that you guard end up being worth it. I’ll bet you know in the back of your mind that it isn’t. Never too late to change your path.

Fair. Mass deportation is a place holder. That can be substituted for ANY ACTION with regard to mass immigrant policy. It costs more to address what you see as a problem. Which you still haven’t proven. Than it costs to at worst, just leave them alone or at best give them mass amnesty.

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD003.pdf ‘A new study shows that undocumented immigrants paid nearly $100 billion in federal, state and local tax revenue in 2022 while many are shut out of the programs their taxes fund. The ndings run counter to anti-immigrant rhetoric that undocumented immigrants are “destroying” social programs." Lifetime let’s say = 40 years. Which number is bigger? $100B or $4TRILLION (with a T) I know you have your opinion but just out of practicality we’re better off letting them stay and making them legal. We’re better off. They’re better off. Again how is this so hard to understand.

‘Estimates’? ’If accurate’? Did you really try use a source that admits it isn’t sure of the information it’s relaying? They’re asking you to assume the truth as you read the story. How disingenuous! Lame! Try again. Do better.

Interesting choice of words…. What?! Fear of something non-existent? Sorry I’m not religious. You’ll have to point out these so called facts because I don’t recall you posting anything but AI vibes and fear.

Your source is an AI manifested number? Any idea where AI found it or are you just trusting, without verifying, anything that you think supports your point. FYI the first actual link/story from American Immigration Council makes the point that it’s not worth the $ to try mass deportation. If you want to cut off your nose to spite your face that is your choice. But spending less and gaining more is better business and anyone with experience in business would agree. Who do we know that might fit that description?

Can you do us a favor and site your source?

Self accountability for what exactly?

Seems like a lot of people are hurrying to post how unafraid THEY are about immigrants. Just like a non-afraid person would. Y'all know that fear and anger are emotions and the more you try to convince us that you aren't fueled by these things the more you prove that you very much are! If you were intellectually honest or emotionally mature you would know this. If you had unbiased information, you would use it. Not self-reporting studies that try to prove predetermined points.

Do you typically focus on things you need, want, like, or fear? I would say all of the above. Everything else your brain turns into white noise so as not to overwhelm you senses. Do you feel you/we need immigrants? I would hazard that you’d answer ‘no’. You’re wrong. Do you want immigrants? I would hazard that you’d say ‘no’. That’s your opinion. Do you like immigrants? I would hazard that you’d say ‘no’. Again your opinion. Do you fear immigrants? I would hazard that if it quacks like a duck.

Says the person that insists on commenting on my non-point-having-posts. You and I both know that this is how these conversations always end. You’re wrong. You’ve been thoroughly proven wrong. You’re not emotionally mature enough to admit it or intellectually honest enough to get better sources/opinions. Your inferiority complex makes you rage quit and continue to be as dumb as you are if not more so. It’s a typical conservative strategy. Pretend to be an incensed, offended, or a victim so you have a reason to quit rather than taking up the challenge of growing. How about this. You’re runner and I’m glue… nee ner nee ner nee ner thpbpbpbpb You are a cliche.

Sounds exhausting to be constantly afraid of a smaller and smaller subset of people. And maybe but probably not realize that the only thing you were afraid of was the horror that they are EQUAL to you.

Did Obama follow the law when doing so? Yes. If not, they rectified the situation hastily. That you have a hard time understanding that means you’re either not intellectually honest(my guess) or not equipped to have the conversation. wWhen in the history of America was it ok for masked agents of the government to arrest people, some of them citizens, for the crime of not being a citizen and have no repercussions? Answer 45&47. The reason you’re rooting for a strong man is that you don’t want the burden of having to think for yourself. It’s messy I get it. You want them to punish the people you think should be punished. But for what? That’s the thing. You don’t even know. So you listen to dear leader and get mad at the people they tell you to get mad at. Cuz nothing unifies morons like a common enemy. Meanwhile they get rich before some of them inevitably go to jail. Which is how it always ends. Your station in life changes not one bit. But you’re convinced that you made a difference by making sure others couldn’t reach your level of success. Building is so much more rewarding. I recommend it. Beats being a bigot or a troll or both.

Here’s where it gets a bit META. If you had looked at it. You would’ve seen that it IS commentary(an interview on an podcast, something done in order to keep your attention for $$) about a self reported, I guess you can charitably call it a, study. And you wouldn’t have made your comment because you would’ve seen have seen that I was right. Again, anything that tries to make a truth claim based on ‘self-reported’ information has a high bar to clear before it can be considered credible.

Can I just claim something as true then make you do the research to prove me wrong? It’s so easy being intellectually lazy. No wonder y’all love it so much. FYI, self reporting studies are unreliable. Anyone that doesn’t realize it probably self report as on the ‘smarter’ end of the spectrum.

Y’all were obviously tricked by a habitual lying, racist, nepo baby as the truth telling, freedom-loving, hero of the working class orangutan. Someone who wouldn’t relieve themselves on you if you were on fire. But insist they have your interest in mind. All y’all’s cog diss is off the charts. But keep attacking smart and capable women of color. That is a great look and definitely will put you on the right side of history.

Classic conservative talking points. Accuse the other side of what you’re guilty of before they can do it. Funny how the anti education party keeps getting tricked by their leaders(who all went to Harvard, Yale, and Penn) to vote against their own interest. Y’all are clueless and scared and begging to be led by anyone that thinks, speaks, and/or looks like you. Validating your moronic opinions and promising to punish the brown people that are the ‘real’ reason their lives are so tough.