ThreePointTakedown

"Some people are afraid of transgender people and will make up salacious lies to keep you afraid at all costs" News at nine. Was anyone hurt? If you say, 'its common sense' then the answer is 'No'. You are all cowards. Afraid of your shadows. Its boring at this point. You have nothing new to say about his situation. Same as when gay/lesbian people starting coming out in or when women got the right to vote or the civil rights movement or (insert any situation when a small group of people fought for equal rights). "Its going to be dangerous, we can't let them have equal rights, think of the children!?" You're so scared and for what. What has ever happened that makes you want to keep these people down? Oh right, straight white males lose power and influence when others are allowed in. Boo effin whoooo!

Asking helps you learn. Even though the response was wrong, I still learned something. I learned that the person claiming 'mental illness' was bias and wrong about the situation. Clarification helped. Don't you think?

You're an ignorant troll

do tell?

And that's why you're a coward. You are terrified to challenge any of your preconceived notions, considering they are wrong at every level. The more freedom that women have in a culture makes it more stable for everyone. Just ask the governments in Denmark, Norway, Switzerland, Sweden, Netherlands, Finland, Singapore, Iceland, Luxembourg, Austria, UAE, Italy, Spain, Portugal, or South Korea(btw we're 44th on the list). You're a coward because you don't prove your case you just continue to belittle those that hold contrary opinions to your own. And that's where you are a transphobe. You can whine about it all you want, they are here, they exist. Despite you wanting to throw a tantrum and demean people for existing, because its your baseline, won't change that fact. When you use the word 'pretending' it does two things: highlights your ignorance and perpetuates a dangerous narrative that could lead to people being hurt or hurting themselves. You're punching down. I hope you know that.

Women ARE women.

Fair. But if you dig a little deeper you left out that there's a difference between being transgender and having gender dysphoria. One has the element of 'psychological distress' associated with it. How did you come to the conclusion they weren't just transgender and instead was suffering from gender dysmorphia? What is the 'catering' that you referred to?

Prove that they are mentally ill and not that you simply want them to be so you can feel more comfortable with their existence?

Blah blah blah... cue the right wing buzzword generator. Thanks for the name calling. You've checked off all the Bully Bingo Boxes. Congrats, you are officially a joke. Please point out where I need to learn more? One point. What am I not understanding about it? I dare you! You won't. Because there is nothing. You have an unfounded opinion. I have done nothing but repeat to you how unfounded it is and how embarrassed you should be to hold it and I am the one that needs to learn more. And that's where you and I are different. I know your opinions hurt people. Not actively, no. You're not oppressing anyone. You have no real power. That might be your issue. But the perpetuation of your opinions in our society will keep people from challenging norms and seeking or receiving the care that they need. Be it; mental health, regular health, job training, a home, help transitioning to the gender the choose to portray. You try to fill in the 'pool' of smaller and smaller groups of people because you're scared of the changes they will force you to confront. Tale as old as time/racism! Filling in Pools this is an article that explains what I mean by 'filling in pools'. Which is what you're trying to do to trans people right now. You just can't find their pool so you're impotently screaming about it on the internet. 'By the early 1970s, most of America’s urban amusement parks, like Cleveland’s Euclid Beach and Chicago’s Riverview, were closed for good. Some white consumers perceived the newly integrated parks as unsafe and in turn park owners sold the land for considerable profit. Other urban leisure sites — public swimming pools, bowling alleys and roller-skating rinks — also closed down as white consumers fled cities for the suburbs.' Do you hear history echoing?

Nope. Not even close. But nice try. The fear is strong with you. So is your lack of understanding on this topic. I'll explain it to you again if you want me to. Might take awhile though. If you want to go out and read something on the subject. Say anything that would oppose your opinion, you'd find how wrong you are on the subject. But that's usually what keeps people from doing that. Knowing that if they do even a little bit of digging it'll turn out they were wrong the whole time. Best of luck

There's an argument to be made that it'd probably be a safer and saner world. But let's go back to you not answering any of my questions and continuing to straw man a position I haven't even advocated for. Which leads me to my next question, why are you such a coward? Is it because you know you're wrong. It usually does. There is no one to hold you to account so you can spout off anything you want. As it turns out in this case being a troll, a coward, and a transphobe since you brought up Dylan Mulvaney(video). Why are you so scared of a person with a beer can? You probably pay someone on Etsy to make one for you. Just a thought.

Well put

Yes. I was proud that bud light did that. Rather disappointed, yet unsurprised, at how those on the 'right' reacted to it. How does the advertising campaign, in any way, prove your point about the 'left'?

You could just say, 'Hey, I don't get it. Can you go into more detail about...(insert example here)?' But your first instinct was to ridicule my post. Do you not see yourself as a cliche of a bully in this situation? I challenge your idea(not even sure what idea it was because you failed to include it in your emotional outburst) and your best reaction is to be afraid and try to demean me. Very scientific of you, btw. Trying to convince others to not take me seriously. While you, yourself, are unable or unwilling to simply ask for clarification. Something I've done several times in the last few threads and do regularly. You don't always have to portray yourself as strong and tough, ya know that right? You can say, 'I don't know or don't get it'? It doesn't make you weak or dumb. Science people tend to not have as much knowledge about things outside of their science field. Its ok to ask.

Glad I could help. That you are unable or unwilling to address any points makes me feel like I am on to something. Thanks.

Did you just type the word 'lying' unironically? I hope so, because that is the best delivered and funniest joke I have heard in awhile. Thank you.

Witness the open mindedness of the local inhabitants. No ulterior motives or willful ignorance. Just someone trying to keep the water muddy so as to not be able to see the difference between the two candidates despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Sorry I don't do a great David Attenborough impression. You'll just have to use your imagination.

Calling out their own and demanding better is not really in their wheel house.

Not sure what you mean by that. Care to clarify?

Great post. I agree with a lot of it. Thank you. Your second paragraph tho. That is the vision I think. Seeing things from another's perspective. Challenging those that try to portray the Manly Man that we now see as toxic to society. Has it and will it continue to ruffle feathers? Sure. Making meaningful change across the whole spectrum will be difficult and there will be push back. Especially from those who can make a living pushing back. Once that opportunity is done you'll see things happen a lot faster and for the better, I feel. Will it ever go away? No. There will always be some that find justification/validation doing societally unhelpful ways. Sometimes those are good. They challenge conceptions that have outgrown their usefulness and lead to change and others just rage at the dying of the light. I agree, more constructive.

Its funny that you make that comparison. One observation is that members of group 'A' tend to fall behind authoritarian leader-types, those traditionally being beckons of warmth and compassion for all of humanity and never lead to wars, genocides, or other similar atrocities based on those people being part of a group that group 'A' just so happen to not like at the time(insert every political or religious based genocide past and present, they always punch down, I wonder why that is?). Your counter is to imply that the members of group 'B'(hold opposing political opinions from group 'A') would call group 'A' names for pointing out similar observations which you failed to include. Keeping in mind you didn't address the observations from group 'A' in the original post. Just to question why someone would type this out and then refer to it is B.S. (very mindful and demure) Everything you've done and typed would indicate you are worked up to some extent or otherwise you would not find the need to address it at all if untrue. Seeing as you haven't denied to veracity of the claim just that its B.S. it seems to reason that you agree but are unable/unwilling to offer reasons. I'll offer some: conservative people, overwhelmingly, are religious. We are social creatures that need/thrive in community. So this group has grown up being taught by their community to not question authority. Be it a priest, a parent, or a government leader. Don't call out embarrassing/inconvenient things like inaccuracies in information be it the bible(there are tons), the stereotypes that your parents teach you, or why you should fear this group of people based on the politics of the day. If you listen to or watch any atheist content you will hear similar stories of questioning and/or coming out of religion. In that it is incredibly difficult to do something if it risks isolating you from the group/community you have built up around you(which some religions threaten to do to someone that questions the faith, funny how that works). So go-along to get-along is simply easier than upending everything you have. Lets carry that over into politics. Holding similar opinions to those in your community, either outwardly or not is simply easier than swimming against the current and a lot less dangerous considering today's(and lets be real forever's) violent political atmosphere. That's why fascists tend to be so 'popular' they offer simple solutions to the problems of the day which typically hinges on whoever group 'A' happens to not like at the time. Once they get into power they turn everyone against each other so as to root out or prevent any opposition because no one knows who to trust. That's not freedom. One group of people, has a much higher rate of disowning family members(or simply killing people) for being gay, lesbian, trans, pro-choice, pro-education, atheist, or just the wrong kind of theist. So rather than address the obvious truths in the post you're worried that one side will call you names?

So you're moving the goal posts. Afraid of the debate or unwilling to give a dishonest person the option of having a debate where fox will give them an advantage? 45 didn't really have a choice. Its not courage when you are forced by polling to do something you would rather not do. Consider Harris now. Why give up the advantage? You see it as fear because you need to to justify your opinion. It could be seen as political strength and know how and where to press your advantage. In front of a microphone is not a current advantage for 45 btw.

If you want to respond to my post you are welcome to.

That you have no idea if it happened yet are still willing to double down on the 'did it, though?' says more about you as a person and your terrified motivations regardless of whether you want to admit it. Its a fear response. 45 gets it all the time. Because 45 is a truly horrible human being. That supporters of 45's opponents have a visceral reaction to the thought of a second term are based on facts not 'did he, tho?'. There are tapes and videos and example after example of why palpable fear of 45 returning to the white house could illicit a fear response. Because he means to punish people. And the leopards that eat faces tend not to care whose faces they eat. Actual things that have happened, not innuendo or here-say. What you're doing is hoping that slinging of the mud does anything to knock KH down a peg because you fear her winning. Why is that? What about the policies of the potential effects are you afraid of? Have you asked yourself why you roll around in the mud rather than provide provable facts that would support your position? Good talk.

People in your lives that identify as female, how do they feel about you all making these comments and the innuendo involved? Just curious if you actually hold these opinions or that you just feel safer stating them anonymously.