VakAttack

When is it?

AJ Ferrari, the Great Uniter.

Ahh, ok. Then I agree.

Are you saying war has been started by atheists in the name of atheism, or just that atheists themselves have started a war? I'm sure the second one may be true (although I don't know off the top of my head who they would be, undoubtedly there are historical atheists behind the start of a war; being an atheist doesn't immunize your from being a violent, psychopathic asshole.) Typically humans aren't going to respond passionately to negative identification, whereas positive identification typically is how one would inspire fanaticism, at least, passion.

Anybody reading anything? I just finished Robin Hobb's "Realm of the Elderlings" 17 book series, it was excellent. Before that I read all if Joe Abercrombie's "First Law" books. What are you guys reading?

"Did any one person get more airplay than Ms. Swift?" It would appear the answer to that is yes.

Obviously it's not true.

He also only had 1 loss against a B1G schedule and was the rightful #1 ranked wrestler. You're picking and choosing which data points best serve you and dismissing without any real reason. Your basic argument is if you ignore all the evidence that shows how clearly Lugo improves, there is no evidence he improved, which....cool?

And then what happened. You keep ignoring that.

He had 9 losses that year. He lost to guys like Matthew Zovistoski, Sam Speno, and Laike Gardiner.

Now do the next year. You're just arbitrarily dismissing facts you don't like. The next year, he went 2-1 against the guys who would be the finalists the following year.

What? Lugo having one upset win doesn't change who he was that year. He had 9 losses, mostly to non-luminaries. He went from that to #1 ranking m, 1 loss, and beating guys like Sasso and Austin O'Connor. To say he didn't greatly improve at Iowa is a bananas take.

No, I'm proving time matters. And nobody is arguing that Iowa is better than PSU right now. What, do you want just all the wrestlers to be at PSU and every match is just an intrasquad? Why do you hate the sport and want it to die?

... no he didn't. They wrestled at B1Gs that year and Eierman won 6-5. The 12-4 match was 3 years before that.

Eierman plateaued but Lee only beat him in overtime. Honestly, you're saying words without any thought or logic behind them because you're so eager to dunk on Iowa. If you're going to be a troll, you need to at least be funny.

Fair counter. Like I said, we'll see. I said it before, i love Mesenbrink, wish he was a Hawk.

You're right on both counts, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.

I agree. It's lame, but it's one of those things... I'm not sure what can be done about it. He will hurt himself at some point doing that.

Ok.... but he won a lot of matches against Desanto by similar scores to Ayala-Davis, except Desanto was, you know, constantly shooting. He just couldn't solve RBY's defense. Davis' plan seems to.have been to try to knock Ayala out and run around him?

I literally said in the post you quoted that I was not saying I would predict it. I think guys are freaked out before the match because of the pace. Now that he's felt it and didn't melt, he'll feel more comfortable. Similar thing happened with Desanto.

Certainly possible. Mesenbrink is great. I think it's more likely to narrow as people feel his pace. Like I said, Caliendo was still attacking late. We'll see.

Good point.

Except RBY wasn't shooting with one arm behind his back. He was keeping his arm away from Desanto until he was ready to shoot.

It's just a weird narrative. People only compare Iowa to Penn State, but coming up short of Penn State is then treated like they're Oklahoma. Notably, many of these transfers are still hanging around postgrad.