VakAttack

They've been pronouncing them like they're weirdly French, lol.

God, I'm so jealous that Mesenbrink went to Penn State. My kind of wrestler.

Haines seems less active this season, I'd imagine it's the cut.

Ohio Stat le O/U 0.5 points the rest of the meet?

I didn't see the 125 call live, but ugh, terrible. 133 seemed ok. 141 the call seemed ok. I'm more bothered with how little Bartlett did without the refs ever even seeming to care. Kasak looked (depressingly) solid. And now...the slaughter begins

Truly an awful story. He's also been deported 4 times previous to this most recent tragedy. I'm not sure what you're going for with this story https://www.denverpost.com/2024/01/17/broomfield-crash-rioradn-melissa-powell-dui-jose-menjivar-ice-immigration/ Not only that, but he was back in the country during the Trump presidency. That's not an indictment of Trump, it's just emblematic of how difficult a problem this is to solve. https://nypost.com/2023/12/22/news/alleged-drunk-driver-with-3-dui-convictions-kills-mom-son/ The truth is, statistically, the crime rates among undocumented people is lower than the general US population. That of course doesn't change the awful thing that happened to this family or that he has criminal history and is highly likely to be guilty of this most recent tragedy. Nor does it mean that there shouldn't be border enforcement https://www.ojp.gov/library/publications/comparing-crime-rates-between-undocumented-immigrants-legal-immigrants-and

And therein lies the problem with most political discourse. No information on the subject and dismissing opinions of others who do.

Good come back, dude.

Or because you pay him.

Respect is earned.

You mean how they dropped during the COVID pandemic and then return to similar numbers as before?

Immigrants, immigrations activists, progressives, Yeah, that's what they say. Lawyers are famously kind and respectful to others and not at all arrogant.

This is literally the definition of correlation, not causation. No, that wasn't my argument. You're just making things up. It's not just me who thinks immigration law is too complicated. It's anybody who has any idea what they're talking about. It was too complicated 4 years ago, and 8 years ago, and 16 years ago, etc. etc. Which is why for all of my adult life (and probably before then, but I wasn't paying attention) both parties keep talking about the immigration system being broken and needing to be fixed, but neither side agreeing on fixes. The audacity to pretend this is some new issue....

Because the current immigration law and system is broken and full of laws that contradict each other, as acknowledged by both parties. You guys pushing on this side of the political equation need to make a decision, should he issue EOs to fix the issue, or should he "enforce existing laws" that none of you know what you're talking about when you say? Honestly, you all seem to think the immigration code is: 1. No illegal immigration. 2. See 1. ~Fin.

He literally can not. You and others just saying this over and over again is just false. 1. Only for people who don't understand middle school concepts like "correlation doesn't equal causation." 2. You just saying that Trump had the border under control isn't actually evidence of anything. Statistically, his policies did almost nothing about illegal immigration, although he did manage to severely cut down on legal immigration.

The idea that "not Trump's policies" is the same thing as "open borders" is just a false equivalency.

Seems wise.

Gonna be a long 9 months of the pointless back and forth of polls.

I'm an adult. And bad at video games, lol, which is why I used the excuse of being an adult. Three kids kills my free time, lol, I literally can not wait for Kansas City. I used to be good at video games!

Again, you're just fighting strawmen. My point is that they're killing the bill without having seen it, not that they have to agree to it sight unseen. However, I'm also pointing out that the reason they're vocally killing it is simply because Trump (and apparently they) are perfectly fine letting this get worse for actual American citizens to try to help Trump's electoral prospects. Where did they say what you're claiming?

Nope. You said he campaigned on open borders. He did not. You're just making things up. So there was a problem before? You agree with that?

***ducking** nailed it, there's been no issues at the border until just this year, as a matter of fact, everybody has really loved it nad hasn't been talking about it for years.

It's NOT the right answer. That's my point. There is a bipartisan coalition literally right now trying to do something, and the House, at the behest of Donald Trump, is killing it. The bill LITERALLY IS NOT EVEN AVAILABLE TO BE READ yet, and you're judging it based off what other people are claiming it will do.

So you're argument is that he ran on open borders, but didn't do it, and his lack of opening the borders is destroying the border security? Or that the article you're citing is lying, and he did open the borders, but also we should take their representations about his campaign at face value despite their lies?

Even if I take what you posted at face value, which I don't, the literal second sentence in that article contradicts nearly everything you're arguing.