Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 9 Posted March 9 Duke looked amazing at Big 10s majoring Cannon and Taylor. Who could actually take him out at NCAAs? I have a short list: 1. Taylor - he did it once already 2. Cannon - but only if back close to 100% Can he get there before NCAAs? 3. Shapiro - this match would be awesome to see with both of their crazy aggressive tyles 4. Larkin? Haven't watched him this year but heard he's really good. 5. Robideau? Also haven't watched him but know he has a super aggressive style. 6. Cam Catrabone - scored multiple TDs on Duke in the dual. Anyone else?
Elevator Posted March 9 Posted March 9 36 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Duke looked amazing at Big 10s majoring Cannon and Taylor. Who could actually take him out at NCAAs? I have a short list: 1. Taylor - he did it once already 2. Cannon - but only if back close to 100% Can he get there before NCAAs? 3. Shapiro - this match would be awesome to see with both of their crazy aggressive tyles 4. Larkin? Haven't watched him this year but heard he's really good. 5. Robideau? Also haven't watched him but know he has a super aggressive style. 6. Cam Catrabone - scored multiple TDs on Duke in the dual. Anyone else? Prolly nobody this year. Swisher just beat Shapiro so he probably deserves mention as much as your 2 - 6 nominees. So how will 157 get seeded?
Sublime607 Posted March 9 Posted March 9 Are Chuck Norris jokes still cool? Doesn't matter I don't think Chuck can hang these days with Duke. 75% chance against the field Duke wins it all.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 9 Author Posted March 9 Just now, Sublime607 said: Are Chuck Norris jokes still cool? Doesn't matter I don't think Chuck can hang these days with Duke. 75% chance against the field Duke wins it all. Chuck is 85 years old. Hard to believe he's older than both Biden and Trump.
Chiljx Posted March 9 Posted March 9 No one if he wrestles like he did at Big 10s. Robideau is built in the same mold but PJ is stronger. He’s clearly better than Cannon. Taylor only has one way to win and the margins there are very slim. Shapiro possibly but he’ll need to bring more to the table than he did this weekend.
Sublime607 Posted March 9 Posted March 9 Just now, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Chuck is 85 years old. Hard to believe he's older than both Biden and Trump. And to think I came to the forum today to escape politics safe space ruined
GV4444 Posted March 9 Posted March 9 The list is shorter than you think. Shapiro Cannon (if he is 100%) The rest are not impossible, but very low probabilities. If Taylor can catch him in his body lock and get him to his back, he can stall out the rest of the match and win. Duke was ready for his blast double this time. Dispassionate Penn State grad and fan.
TAC Posted March 10 Posted March 10 That is a good list. PJ needs to bring his A game. If he wrestles aggressively, like he did at the Big 10s, he will have a good shot at the top of the podium.
Pinnacle Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) 17 hours ago, Hilton Head Joe said: Joe Sealey. That is it. Duke gonna roll to a title. When Swisher beat Sealey many made it like Sealey lost to a middling type wrestler. I hope Swisher's win over Shapiro has changed that sentiment. I don't see Duke losing any time soon. Edited March 10 by Pinnacle
Nak21 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Depends which version of PJ shows up. The PJ of the Big Ten finals and most of the year, probably doesn’t lose to anyone on the list. The PJ of Taylor1.0 and Catrabone, maybe Williams, could drop a close semi to any on the list. PJ will be the #1 seed, after that it’s interesting because so many of the top kids rolling into Qualifiers dropped matches (Shapiro, Taylor, Robideaux), Larkin I think has most of his matches at 149, so that’s gonna hurt him in the formula. Cannon’s time off due to injury also probably causes some formula issues (it did at Bigs). 2-4 seeds will be interesting but hopefully moot because PJ rolls into Cleveland dialed in and ready.
Hilton Head Joe Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Pinnacle said: When Swisher beat Sealey many made it like Sealey lost to a middling type wrestler. I hope Swisher's win over Shapiro has changed that sentiment. I don't see Duke losing any time soon. How is Cael keeping Sealey? He is beating Kasak pretty easily from what I hear and losing 2 out of three to Duke. That makes Sealey the #2 wrestler in the nation. I know he had some major injury last year. Some are saying it was mental health but now he is back at 100%. He has three years left. It is unthinkable how someone like that may never start?
Hilton Head Joe Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Yes forgot about all these experts on here saying that. I said it then and will say it again Sealey is the 2nd best 157 lbs guy in the nation. The reason I am high on Sealey is because before the injury I have seen him beat Mesenbrink twice, Lockett, Nicco Ruiz, and SV loss to Ferrari and others. He was in same bracket as my son when he beat Mesenbrink at Super 32 his senior year. Swisher hammered #3 ranked Shapiro last weekend! So why is Sealey staying in happy valley? Even the world champ backups love it there. Crazy!
Le duke Posted March 10 Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Hilton Head Joe said: How is Cael keeping Sealey? He is beating Kasak pretty easily from what I hear and losing 2 out of three to Duke. That makes Sealey the #2 wrestler in the nation. I know he had some major injury last year. Some are saying it was mental health but now he is back at 100%. He has three years left. It is unthinkable how someone like that may never start? I've never, ever heard anyone say that Joe Sealey beats Kasak, let alone "easily". Kasak is also 2-0 vs Taylor.
ceraIOI Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I think saturday night, with all that time after weigh ins to get all the weight back on, there's no one in the country right now that beats PJ, just look at how good he looked in the b1g finals. I think sometime earlier in the tournament, when he has the next days weigh in to manage for, and multiple matches to worry about, is when somebody can get him 1
Hilton Head Joe Posted March 10 Posted March 10 29 minutes ago, Le duke said: I've never, ever heard anyone say that Joe Sealey beats Kasak, let alone "easily". Kasak is also 2-0 vs Taylor. All you guys were on here saying 2-1 loss to Duke was a fluke and training partner syndrome type stuff. Sealey is the #2 ranked 157 in my mind in the nation behind Duke. Yes from what I have heard he beats Kasak and that gap is only going to increase. Now Cael won't let me video in the room so I guess that can't be fully proven.
Hilton Head Joe Posted March 10 Posted March 10 34 minutes ago, Le duke said: I've never, ever heard anyone say that Joe Sealey beats Kasak, let alone "easily". Kasak is also 2-0 vs Taylor. So in all honesty how can PSU keep possibly 3 NCAA champs on the roster a same weight. How? I really would like to know this.
russ1847 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Thought Webster looked good at the Big 10's. Certainly was not overwhelmed by Duke in the 4-2 loss.
Hilton Head Joe Posted March 10 Posted March 10 11 minutes ago, russ1847 said: Thought Webster looked good at the Big 10's. Certainly was not overwhelmed by Duke in the 4-2 loss. True but look at that 2nd match with Taylor. Duke is feeling good. I think some can keep it close but the true freshman is gonna have some close ones against these physically stronger older guys!
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 10 Posted March 10 It's too bad PJD wasn't born a bit earlier. Was talking with a fan over the weekend about how fun it would be if PJ Duke competed against IMar, Cenzo, Marinelli, etc.
ChickenWing Posted March 10 Posted March 10 No one beats the Duke of Hazard. He does not respect his elders; same with a few other freshmen this season. Larkin v Taylor in a semi could be interesting.
ceraIOI Posted March 10 Posted March 10 2 hours ago, russ1847 said: Thought Webster looked good at the Big 10's. Certainly was not overwhelmed by Duke in the 4-2 loss. I might be crazy but webster looked like the considerably larger guy that match, maybe just a height/length thing? for one of them being a 49 last year and one wrestling 170 for his high school season and being the biggest 70kg around, webster gave him some good physicality
MLB9 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Hilton Head Joe said: All you guys were on here saying 2-1 loss to Duke was a fluke and training partner syndrome type stuff. Sealey is the #2 ranked 157 in my mind in the nation behind Duke. Yes from what I have heard he beats Kasak and that gap is only going to increase. Now Cael won't let me video in the room so I guess that can't be fully proven. Sealey and Kasak had a common opponent last year. The results were drastically different. This year is this year, but I find that very hard to believe and haven’t seen or heard anyone say that. I would bet against Sealey AA’ing at 157
Elevator Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Should be a really fun weight to watch in any event. Would it be really surprising if Shapiro fund a way to beat Duke? Cornell has at least three guys who could make a run to the finals.
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