House vote on Iran

[Caveira]

AOC and Ilhan Omar are furious after the vote to halt President Trump’s Operation Epic Fury in Iran just failed in the House.

The measure was defeated 219–212, blocking an effort to stop the operation.

This comes just 24 hours after a similar measure failed in the Senate.

With both efforts now defeated, Operation Epic Fury moves forward.

[braves121]

Hell yea following up on the America first and no new wars campaign promises 

Edited March 6 by braves121

[red viking]

7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

AOC and Ilhan Omar are furious after the vote to halt President Trump’s Operation Epic Fury in Iran just failed in the House.

The measure was defeated 219–212, blocking an effort to stop the operation.

This comes just 24 hours after a similar measure failed in the Senate.

With both efforts now defeated, Operation Epic Fury moves forward.

Well see what happens after mid terms. Trumptard gonna run into a lot of problems starting next January. 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Well see what happens after mid terms. Trumptard gonna run into a lot of problems starting next January. 

Right after the stock market crashes ?

[braves121]

12 minutes ago, Caveira said:

AOC and Ilhan Omar are furious after the vote to halt President Trump’s Operation Epic Fury in Iran just failed in the House.

The measure was defeated 219–212, blocking an effort to stop the operation.

This comes just 24 hours after a similar measure failed in the Senate.

With both efforts now defeated, Operation Epic Fury moves forward.

What do you think would need to happen for conservatives on here like you to be against this war? Elevated gas prices, American deaths, prolonged activity in Iran, the Dow being below 50,000?

[Caveira]

12 minutes ago, braves121 said:

What do you think would need to happen for conservatives on here like you to be against this war? Elevated gas prices, American deaths, prolonged activity in Iran, the Dow being below 50,000?

I don’t believe they declared war 

[braves121]

7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I don’t believe they declared war 

Several officials in this admin have called this a war. I reiterate my question what would need to happen for conservatives to buck trump on this? Because this is already becoming Iraq 2.0 by the day 

Edited March 6 by braves121

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Several officials in this admin have called this a war. I reiterate my question what would need to happen for conservatives to buck trump on this? Because this is already becoming Iraq 2.0 by the day 

We have boots on the ground?

[braves121]

4 minutes ago, Caveira said:

We have boots on the ground?

Not yet, but we do have dead Americans, higher oil prices, and no clear exist strategy. Is boots on the ground where you draw the line against this?

Edited March 6 by braves121

[El Luchador]

17 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Not yet, but we do have dead Americans, higher oil prices, and no clear exist strategy. Is boots on the ground where you draw the line against this?

Trump's high oil still lower than Brain Dead Bidens.

How do you know there is no exit strategy? You clearly don't.

[braves121]

2 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Trump's high oil still lower than Brain Dead Bidens.

How do you know there is no exit strategy? You clearly don't.

Oil spiking during Biden due to Russian war- bad 

oil spiking during trumps Iranian war- good

So as long as oil doesn’t get above bidens it doesn’t matter how it goes up? 

There’s no exit plan because The admin has given us different justifications and different objectives every single day. It started out we bombed them to protect us an it’s not about regime change, yet trump says we aren’t leaving until there is total unconditional surrender and he picks the new leader. It’s been almost one week since we learned we are at war with another country and there’s nothing more clear about it than when we found out in the middle of the night after stock markets closed 

[braves121]

11 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Trump's high oil still lower than Brain Dead Bidens.

How do you know there is no exit strategy? You clearly don't.

Why does everything have to come back to Biden? Trump is president and these are his policies, at some point conservatives are gonna have to accept that people can criticize trump without having to be but but but Biden did this 

[El Luchador]

59 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Why does everything have to come back to Biden? Trump is president and these are his policies, at some point conservatives are gonna have to accept that people can criticize trump without having to be but but but Biden did this 

Because leftist always run up fuel costs, then cry if a Republican see a short increase. I've literally heard left this run on bringing American fuel prices up to that of the Europeans.

[El Luchador]

1 hour ago, braves121 said:

Oil spiking during Biden due to Russian war- bad 

oil spiking during trumps Iranian war- good

So as long as oil doesn’t get above bidens it doesn’t matter how it goes up? 

There’s no exit plan because The admin has given us different justifications and different objectives every single day. It started out we bombed them to protect us an it’s not about regime change, yet trump says we aren’t leaving until there is total unconditional surrender and he picks the new leader. It’s been almost one week since we learned we are at war with another country and there’s nothing more clear about it than when we found out in the middle of the night after stock markets closed 

Isn't Russia still at war?  Why did we see a decrease when Trump took control? 

[braves121]

7 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Isn't Russia still at war?  Why did we see a decrease when Trump took control? 

Oil companies expecting to cash in on his policies but here we are gas at the same price as during Biden in 2024

[El Luchador]

1 minute ago, braves121 said:

Oil companies expecting to cash in on his policies but here we are gas at the same price as during Biden in 2024

They cash in by selling their product for less? I must have been absent that day of economics. Heaven forbid there's a win-win between business and consumers.

[braves121]

1 minute ago, El Luchador said:

They cash in by selling their product for less? I must have been absent that day of economics. Heaven forbid there's a win-win between business and consumers.

It seems you missed a few days of economics. Supply and demand.When an oil company gets permission to drill more than they have before, they tend to have more supply than there is demand so they typically have to charge less wile accumulating a stockpile for the next spike.

[El Luchador]

35 minutes ago, braves121 said:

It seems you missed a few days of economics. Supply and demand.When an oil company gets permission to drill more than they have before, they tend to have more supply than there is demand so they typically have to charge less wile accumulating a stockpile for the next spike.

You know very little about the oil market. The ability to store product is very limited, and when you can't move product you have a huge financial dilemma. No oil company is going to willingly drill for oil they don't need. It's policy and regulation that the government brings the consumer that runs up the price. Trump produces better consumer pricing through lower taxes and regulation. Democrats use energy pricing to control behavior.

[braves121]

8 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

You know very little about the oil market. The ability to store product is very limited, and when you can't move product you have a huge financial dilemma. No oil company is going to willingly drill for oil they don't need. It's policy and regulation that the government brings the consumer that runs up the price. Trump produces better consumer pricing through lower taxes and regulation. Democrats use energy pricing to control behavior.

It’s pretty hard to argue that trumps policies are creating better consumer pricing due to the fact that core grocery prices an oil are hovering around if not higher than 2 years ago when Biden was in office, plus trumps tarriffs which were a tax on every consumer in America 

Edited March 6 by braves121

[mspart]

2 hours ago, braves121 said:

What do you think would need to happen for conservatives on here like you to be against this war? Elevated gas prices, American deaths, prolonged activity in Iran, the Dow being below 50,000?

For me it would be American deaths and prolonged activity in Iran.   I'm not wildly enthusiastic about war with Iran.   But I can see it needs to happen at some point.   It is happening now.   I think the goal is to make us safe for a number of years.   

mspart

[El Luchador]

4 minutes ago, braves121 said:

It’s pretty hard to argue that trumps policies are creating better consumer pricing due to the fact that core grocery prices an oil are hovering around if not higher than 2 years ago when Biden was in office, plus trumps tarriffs which were a tax on every consumer in America 

I think you need to look at pricing over time not just the one week average. I would bet your dollars to donuts when this is all over and Iran is no longer a threat their oil will hit the free market and bring down costs. They play games all the time to screw with oil tankers. They can't do that anymore. Do you know why? They got no more ships.

[Rassling]

5 hours ago, braves121 said:

What do you think would need to happen for conservatives on here like you to be against this war? Elevated gas prices, American deaths, prolonged activity in Iran, the Dow being below 50,000?

not every conservative is for this war

[JimmySpeaks]

5 hours ago, Caveira said:

Right after the stock market crashes ?

Damn you. I spit out my drink on that one. 

[JimmySpeaks]

3 hours ago, braves121 said:

Oil companies expecting to cash in on his policies but here we are gas at the same price as during Biden in 2024

During 2024. Cherry pick much? 

[JimmySpeaks]

2 hours ago, braves121 said:

It’s pretty hard to argue that trumps policies are creating better consumer pricing due to the fact that core grocery prices an oil are hovering around if not higher than 2 years ago when Biden was in office, plus trumps tarriffs which were a tax on every consumer in America 

Biden raised everything. Hasn’t moved much under Trump.  Good try though.