Gender vs Sex

[red viking]

1 minute ago, Scouts Honor said:

says the guy who thinks men should be in women's spaces.

Show me where I said that. You can't.  Thats called a strawman. 

I did say I don't care much because it isn't a big issue at all compared to all the predator cis males raping women (and girls, if its the president) everywhere EXCEPT the womens bathroom. 

Edited May 10 by red viking

[Scouts Honor]

so you believe we should keep them out.

good, we finally agree on something.

[red viking]

4 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

so you believe we should keep them out.

good, we finally agree on something.

I don't recall exactly what i said because I really don't care too much. I'd let the local govt or company decide what they want. I value freedom over big govt controlling everything. 

If I absolutely had to decide myself I'd put everybody in their bathroom of biological gender. 

Edited May 10 by red viking

[Scouts Honor]

lol

almost every thread in here is about fighting big govt

and you are always on the other side

[red viking]

Just now, Scouts Honor said:

lol

almost every thread in here is about fighting big govt

and you are always on the other side

I want a strong safety net snd rich to pay their fair share. I don't want govt control in general, with exception of strong consumer protection laws. Private companies will often screw you if they can.. 

[Scouts Honor]

but you want the govt to strong arm people you don't thin kpay their fair share.

what, pray tell, is your share of something someone else earned/made/produced?

[Scouts Honor]

I think I should get some credit for Cael Sanderson's 159-0 record.

 

see how stupid that sounds

 

he didn't earn that.

hell, he even lost once, in a simulation

but i met him once... and he is a college grad like me.. so you know

[red viking]

11 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

but you want the govt to strong arm people you don't thin kpay their fair share.

what, pray tell, is your share of something someone else earned/made/produced?

Either have them pay fair share or gut social security, Medicare and the military. Hell, gut that fat bloated corrupt pig of a military either way. 

It's called balancing the budget. 

Yes, EVERYBODY else should pay more too but poor just can't offer much. Middle class can though. 

[Caveira]

30 minutes ago, red viking said:

I want a strong safety net snd rich to pay their fair share. I don't want govt control in general, with exception of strong consumer protection laws. Private companies will often screw you if they can.. 

something like 10% of the “rich” pay 90% of the taxes.   What # is fair ?

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[GreatWhiteNorth]

3 hours ago, Caveira said:

something like 10% of the “rich” pay 90% of the taxes.   What # is fair ?

Something like 1% of the wealthiest make 98% of the income in the country.

So, they really should be paying more taxes. Certainly not less.

(Message me if you need help with the math.)

 

Also - what country are you from? And how do these things work in your country?

[Caveira]

9 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Something like 1% of the wealthiest make 98% of the income in the country.

So, they really should be paying more taxes. Certainly not less.

(Message me if you need help with the math.)

 

Also - what country are you from? And how do these things work in your country?

They already pay all of the taxes statistically speaking.  What amount of “more” is enough.    What makes it fair…. Especially if they already statistically pay everything.  
 

There is ZERO reasons the tax burden should go up every year.  
 

per capita I think nyc spends $3-4x per human vs Florida.  That isn’t fair.  That’s just waste…. And they want MORE to pay for illegal aliens and nonsense 
 

 

Edited May 11 by Caveira

[red viking]

17 minutes ago, Caveira said:

They already pay all of the taxes statistically speaking.  What amount of “more” is enough.    What makes it fair…. Especially if they already statistically pay everything.  
 

There is ZERO reasons the tax burden should go up every year.  
 

per capita I think nyc spends $3-4x per human vs Florida.  That isn’t fair.  That’s just waste…. And they want MORE to pay for illegal aliens and nonsense 
 

 

Do you agree that our deficit is way too high? 

How do you propose to make it more balanced? 

You won't do it by " cutting the fat" or EPA/NPR/Planned Parenthood like idiot wingers propose. 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Do you agree that our deficit is way too high? 

How do you propose to make it more balanced? 

You won't do it by " cutting the fat" or EPA/NPR/Planned Parenthood like idiot wingers propose. 

Don’t pay senators / house etc… if the budget isn’t balanced.   

several senators have proposed acts that say as much but it gets shot down.  Probably because they depend on the fraud that they are very much used to.

[Scouts Honor]

14 hours ago, red viking said:

Either have them pay fair share or gut social security, Medicare and the military. Hell, gut that fat bloated corrupt pig of a military either way. 

It's called balancing the budget. 

Yes, EVERYBODY else should pay more too but poor just can't offer much. Middle class can though. 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2026/03/13/war-on-poverty-created-a-permanent-underclass/

[Scouts Honor]

10 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Something like 1% of the wealthiest make 98% of the income in the country.

So, they really should be paying more taxes. Certainly not less.

(Message me if you need help with the math.)

 

Also - what country are you from? And how do these things work in your country?

https://www.dailysignal.com/2026/03/13/war-on-poverty-created-a-permanent-underclass/

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Do you agree that our deficit is way too high? 

How do you propose to make it more balanced? 

You won't do it by " cutting the fat" or EPA/NPR/Planned Parenthood like idiot wingers propose. 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2026/03/13/war-on-poverty-created-a-permanent-underclass/

[red viking]

3 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

https://www.dailysignal.com/2026/03/13/war-on-poverty-created-a-permanent-underclass/

Deflection. How u want to balance budget? 

[Scouts Honor]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

Deflection. How u want to balance budget? 

not a deflection.

that's a start on how to balance the budget.

[ThreePointTakedown]

12 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

not a deflection.

that's a start on how to balance the budget.

Stop paying teachers to teach children. 

paying for school meals.

Stop paying for the poor to get healthcare. 

Which will dramatically alter the risk pool which will make healthcare more expensive for everyone else

Some of those people will stop paying for health care. 

Let people suffer and die. 

But the budget will be balanced. 

The rich will not be able to grow their wealth because no one will have money to pay for their products. 

The economy will collapse.

People will starve and die. But not the 'poor' so now its going to become an issue. 

The rich can't buy food because their money doesn't mean anything anymore. 

But at least the budget is balanced. 

[Offthemat]

GAO Reports Improper Payments Rose to an Estimated $186 billion Across the Federal Government in Fiscal Year 2025
 

https://www.gao.gov/press-release/gao-reports-improper-payments-rose-estimated-186-billion-across-federal-government-fiscal-year-2025

[red viking]

59 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

GAO Reports Improper Payments Rose to an Estimated $186 billion Across the Federal Government in Fiscal Year 2025
 

https://www.gao.gov/press-release/gao-reports-improper-payments-rose-estimated-186-billion-across-federal-government-fiscal-year-2025

Deflection. First, that's a small % of overall budget. Even if u eliminate it completely, you won't come close. 

Secondly, you can't perfectly eliminate all fraud. There will always be some. 

Got any more bs deflections? 

[red viking]

1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

not a deflection.

that's a start on how to balance the budget.

A start but merely a drop in the bucket. Yoy also have to hire more staff to cut down on fraud and the hypocritical scumbag wingers wont do that. What wouid you idiot wingers do that actually amounts to anything significant? 

Edited May 11 by red viking

[Scouts Honor]

lol a drop in the bucket.

you better do some reading.

i know how to cut down on fraud. fire staff. cut programs.

[Scouts Honor]

As of 2024–2026, over $25 trillion to $30 trillion (inflation-adjusted) has been spent on anti-poverty programs since President Lyndon B. Johnson launched the "War on Poverty" in 1964. This massive investment, which covers roughly 100+ federal welfare programs, currently costs taxpayers over $1 trillion annually. [1, 2, 3, 4]

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

 

Stop paying teachers to teach children. 

paying for school meals.

Stop paying for the poor to get healthcare. 

Which will dramatically alter the risk pool which will make healthcare more expensive for everyone else

Some of those people will stop paying for health care. 

Let people suffer and die. 

But the budget will be balanced. 

The rich will not be able to grow their wealth because no one will have money to pay for their products. 

The economy will collapse.

People will starve and die. But not the 'poor' so now its going to become an issue. 

The rich can't buy food because their money doesn't mean anything anymore. 

But at least the budget is balanced. 

wow talk about your bird walk

but anyway

one fix. it's too late.

stop making people dependent on govt.

As of 2024–2026, over $25 trillion to $30 trillion (inflation-adjusted) has been spent on anti-poverty programs since President Lyndon B. Johnson launched the "War on Poverty" in 1964. This massive investment, which covers roughly 100+ federal welfare programs, currently costs taxpayers over $1 trillion annually. [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

just think if we had just given those people the money. we would be ahead. there would be fewer red tape lickers to profit.