Is Rape something that shouldn't be done?

[red viking]

6 minutes ago, mspart said:

Adds context.  It was not used to describe non transsexuals until 1994.  

I took a year of university chemistry and I never heard of cis.   

mspart

See above.

[red viking]

AI

Chemicals with cis (same side) and trans (opposite sides) modifiers are geometric isomers, common in molecules with restricted rotation like double bonds (alkenes) or rings, including important examples like cis/trans-butenedioic acid (maleic/fumaric acid), oleic acid/elaidic acid, and pharmaceutical precursors such as citral, crotonaldehyde, and carotenoids like beta-carotene. These prefixes describe the spatial arrangement of substituent groups relative to a plane or axis, crucial for biological activity and physical properties. 

Common Examples of Cis-Trans Isomers

Hydrocarbons:

But-2-ene: Methyl groups are either on the same (cis) or opposite (trans) sides of the double bond.

1,2-Dichloroethene: Chlorine atoms are either on the same (cis) or opposite (trans) sides.

Decahydronaphthalene (Decalin): The fused rings can have substituents in cis or trans positions.

Acids & Fats:

Maleic Acid (cis-butenedioic acid) and Fumaric Acid (trans-butenedioic acid).

Oleic Acid (cis) and Elaidic Acid (trans), common fatty acids.

Natural Products & Pharmaceuticals:

Citral: A mixture of cis and trans isomers, used in flavors and fragrances.

Cinnamic Acid: The trans isomer is more stable and has significant antimicrobial properties.

Resveratrol: A stilbene with trans and cis forms, known for antioxidant effects.

Carotenoids: All-trans-β-carotene, 9-cis-lutein, etc., found in plants.

Pharmaceuticals: Drugs like Doxepin and Tamoxifen also exhibit cis/trans isomerism. 

Key Applications & Significance

Biological Activity: The spatial arrangement significantly affects how molecules interact with enzymes and receptors, as seen with resveratrol or cinnamic acid derivatives.

Physical Properties: Cis isomers often have lower melting points and higher solubilities than their trans counterparts due to less efficient packing.

Chemical Synthesis: Specific reactions, like the Prevost reaction (trans) and Woodward's modification (cis), are used to selectively produce specific diols. 

[red viking]

Very basic stuff

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

AI

Chemicals with cis (same side) and trans (opposite sides) modifiers are geometric isomers, common in molecules with restricted rotation like double bonds (alkenes) or rings, including important examples like cis/trans-butenedioic acid (maleic/fumaric acid), oleic acid/elaidic acid, and pharmaceutical precursors such as citral, crotonaldehyde, and carotenoids like beta-carotene. These prefixes describe the spatial arrangement of substituent groups relative to a plane or axis, crucial for biological activity and physical properties. 

Common Examples of Cis-Trans Isomers

Hydrocarbons:

But-2-ene: Methyl groups are either on the same (cis) or opposite (trans) sides of the double bond.

1,2-Dichloroethene: Chlorine atoms are either on the same (cis) or opposite (trans) sides.

Decahydronaphthalene (Decalin): The fused rings can have substituents in cis or trans positions.

Acids & Fats:

Maleic Acid (cis-butenedioic acid) and Fumaric Acid (trans-butenedioic acid).

Oleic Acid (cis) and Elaidic Acid (trans), common fatty acids.

Natural Products & Pharmaceuticals:

Citral: A mixture of cis and trans isomers, used in flavors and fragrances.

Cinnamic Acid: The trans isomer is more stable and has significant antimicrobial properties.

Resveratrol: A stilbene with trans and cis forms, known for antioxidant effects.

Carotenoids: All-trans-β-carotene, 9-cis-lutein, etc., found in plants.

Pharmaceuticals: Drugs like Doxepin and Tamoxifen also exhibit cis/trans isomerism. 

Key Applications & Significance

Biological Activity: The spatial arrangement significantly affects how molecules interact with enzymes and receptors, as seen with resveratrol or cinnamic acid derivatives.

Physical Properties: Cis isomers often have lower melting points and higher solubilities than their trans counterparts due to less efficient packing.

Chemical Synthesis: Specific reactions, like the Prevost reaction (trans) and Woodward's modification (cis), are used to selectively produce specific diols. 

No. It has absolutely nothing to do with being trans or not trans.

That blurb is pure chemistry, using Latin directional prefixes that long predate any modern social usage.

[mspart]

3 minutes ago, red viking said:

AI

Chemicals with cis (same side) and trans (opposite sides) modifiers are geometric isomers, common in molecules with restricted rotation like double bonds (alkenes) or rings, including important examples like cis/trans-butenedioic acid (maleic/fumaric acid), oleic acid/elaidic acid, and pharmaceutical precursors such as citral, crotonaldehyde, and carotenoids like beta-carotene. These prefixes describe the spatial arrangement of substituent groups relative to a plane or axis, crucial for biological activity and physical properties. 

Common Examples of Cis-Trans Isomers

Hydrocarbons:

But-2-ene: Methyl groups are either on the same (cis) or opposite (trans) sides of the double bond.

1,2-Dichloroethene: Chlorine atoms are either on the same (cis) or opposite (trans) sides.

Decahydronaphthalene (Decalin): The fused rings can have substituents in cis or trans positions.

Acids & Fats:

Maleic Acid (cis-butenedioic acid) and Fumaric Acid (trans-butenedioic acid).

Oleic Acid (cis) and Elaidic Acid (trans), common fatty acids.

Natural Products & Pharmaceuticals:

Citral: A mixture of cis and trans isomers, used in flavors and fragrances.

Cinnamic Acid: The trans isomer is more stable and has significant antimicrobial properties.

Resveratrol: A stilbene with trans and cis forms, known for antioxidant effects.

Carotenoids: All-trans-β-carotene, 9-cis-lutein, etc., found in plants.

Pharmaceuticals: Drugs like Doxepin and Tamoxifen also exhibit cis/trans isomerism. 

Key Applications & Significance

Biological Activity: The spatial arrangement significantly affects how molecules interact with enzymes and receptors, as seen with resveratrol or cinnamic acid derivatives.

Physical Properties: Cis isomers often have lower melting points and higher solubilities than their trans counterparts due to less efficient packing.

Chemical Synthesis: Specific reactions, like the Prevost reaction (trans) and Woodward's modification (cis), are used to selectively produce specific diols. 

Oh, you meant organic chem.   I took inorganic chem.   Still never heard of this. 

mspart

[red viking]

3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

 

No. It has absolutely nothing to do with being trans or not trans.

That blurb is pure chemistry, using Latin directional prefixes that long predate any modern social usage.

Chemistry is the foundation of life. The fact that they've been around so long is a Testament to how basic and fundamental they are. 

[mspart]

From AI:

Prefix "Cis-": Latin for "on this side of," used in science (like cis-trans isomers) and geography.

So cismale means on this side of male?    cisgender means on this side of gender.   I'm not really sure what this is getting at.  

mspart

 

[red viking]

9 minutes ago, mspart said:

From AI:

Prefix "Cis-": Latin for "on this side of," used in science (like cis-trans isomers) and geography.

So cismale means on this side of male?    cisgender means on this side of gender.   I'm not really sure what this is getting at.  

mspart

 

In chemistry, cis means both applicabke groups or anions are on the same side of molecule. Trans means they are on opposite sides. Can u see the parallel concepts even though there is a little difference? 

[Offthemat]

The concept of 

cis-trans isomerism, describing spatial arrangements of atoms/groups on the same or opposite sides of a reference plane (like a double bond or ring), emerged in organic chemistry in the late 19th century,
 

before that, they had to use different names for those folks. 

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

 

 in the late 19th century

That's the 1800s

[JimmySpeaks]

A cis male is a person born as a male that knows he’s a male and that he will always be a male even if he cuts off his dick which he’d never do. 

Edited January 7 by JimmySpeaks

[red viking]

20 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

A cis male is a person born as a male that knows he’s a male and that he will always be a male even if he cuts off his dick which he’d never do. 

See guys? Even an idiot like Spanky knows what it means (somewhat at least).

Edited January 7 by red viking

[JimmySpeaks]

6 minutes ago, red viking said:

See guys? Even an idiot like Spanky knows what it means (somewhat at least).

I knew you wouldn’t understand the intent if that comment and that cis isn’t needed.  You’re a male or your trans.  It’s purely there for trans people. 

Edited January 7 by JimmySpeaks

[red viking]

42 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

I knew you wouldn’t understand the intent if that comment and that cis isn’t needed.  You’re a male or your trans.  It’s purely there for trans people. 

It's part of the English language now. When somebody asks me my sex ( on questionnaires) I always try to specify that I'm cis male. 

"Male" is just a general term now. 

Edited January 7 by red viking

[JimmySpeaks]

6 minutes ago, red viking said:

It's part of the English language now. When somebody asks me my sex ( on questionnaires) I always try to specify that I'm cis male. 

"Male" is just a general term now. 

It’s part of a push to get into the English Language.  It’s no where near mainstream and may never be.  Have yet to see it anywhere that I would need to specify.  And IF I do I’ll put “other” before I ever use it. 

Edited January 7 by JimmySpeaks

[ThreePointTakedown]

4 hours ago, El Luchador said:

Being as we no longer know what a woman is, this topic is moot as to whether or not it has ever even happened.

People. All people. How hard is that to understand. 

[ThreePointTakedown]

4 hours ago, Caveira said:

No one knows about made up words like cis

All words are made up, moron(a made up word). 

[ThreePointTakedown]

2 hours ago, El Luchador said:

Probably in sheer numbers but not in percentages. 

I’d love an explanation of this. But I’m afraid we’d have to play the speech from Billy Madison because we’d all be dumber for hearing it. 

[El Luchador]

2 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

People. All people. How hard is that to understand. 

Is this a joke? 

[El Luchador]

Just now, ThreePointTakedown said:

I’d love an explanation of this. But I’m afraid we’d have to play the speech from Billy Madison because we’d all be dumber for hearing it. 

You don't understand percentages?  Are you having a stroke right now? 

[ThreePointTakedown]

2 hours ago, mspart said:

AI Overview

The term "cisgender" (or "cis") has been around since 1994, coined by biologist Dana Leland Defosse on an early internet forum to describe someone whose gender identity matches their sex at birth, contrasting with "transgender". While the prefix "cis-" (meaning "on this side of") has been used for centuries in science, the gender-related term gained wider usage in the 2000s and was added to dictionaries like the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) in 2015 and Merriam-Webster in 2016.

mspart

Latin

cis - same side

trans - across

but 1994 is still 3 decades. 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

See guys? Even an idiot like Spanky knows what it means (somewhat at least).

We have a word called. Normal n.  It’s a normal dude.  You needed to invent a diff word : definition to cater to your weird new definitions.   Normal is normal.   Stop making up bs words 

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

We have a word called. Normal n.  It’s a normal dude.  You needed to invent a diff word : definition to cater to your weird new definitions.   Normal is normal.   Stop making up bs words 

It's in the dictionary idiot

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, red viking said:

It's in the dictionary idiot

It doesn’t make it right or normal.  Normal dudes are normal.  Don’t need a new word for it.  The word normal was invented 300 million years ago 

Webster's dictionaries, particularly Merriam-Webster, aim for descriptive objectivity, noting how language is used, but are 

often perceived as "liberal"

Edited January 7 by Caveira

[JimmySpeaks]

12 hours ago, red viking said:

It's in the dictionary idiot

There’s a lot of useless words in the dictionary idiot.