TDS hurts our children

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

That’s a bit mean. Also a pivot. Why change the subject? stay focused  

But also you mentioned transgender people. A transgender person, based on the part of the word ‘gender’ do not change their sex. But I wouldn’t expect you to understand that. 

There are just two genders and two sexes boss.  You can’t feel like a goat and be a goat any more than you can feel like a woman and be one.  You can cross dress all you like.  You can change your name to Nancy or 3point take down.   That’s your right.  You have the right not to be persecuted.  You have a right to live your life in peace.  You don’t have the right to change science and make the normal people get on board with it…. And force it on kids with the goal to ideologically change thought for a generation so in the future your ideology is now set in stone.  Which is what is attempting to happen. 

[Gene Mills Fan]

3 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Evidence of the truth of your claim? Again, ‘common sense’ = none. I’ll wait. 
 

Reason for a spike:

https://slowrevealgraphs.com/2021/11/08/rate-of-left-handedness-in-the-us-stigma-society/
when people feel safe to be who they are, they will. Those pictures are evidence of that if anything. Are you afraid to be who you want to be? You can.  I give you permission. Just don’t be a d..k. 
 

Parents are not always good. They are stewards not owners of their children. 
 

That this stuff makes you feel icky is one thing. But you still have no evidence that it is harmful. I’ll wait. 

teachers are not always good they are stewards of their own ideology!

[Caveira]

Politics do not belong in schools.  Not republican politics.   Not democrat politics.   And not religious politics.  
 

The 3 Rs of which the world has caught and surpassed us in.  

[ThreePointTakedown]

3 minutes ago, Viratas said:

So, I found another internet tough guy who likes to throw around talking points and specializes in non-sense and name-calling. I posted images of what I think are funny protesters. That, by your interesting perspective, makes me scared of something. Believing something is dumb does not equate to fear. Please provide me with the following, since you seem to really understand me.

 

1. What exactly are you accusing me of being afraid of?
2. If I posted the video of the wack job Chicago Teacher acting like she is being shot in the neck and yelling bang bang, would that make me scared if I said I thought it was wrong, or would it make me not crazy to think our educators should not support Murder? Do you support Murder?
3. Please list the things I stated that would be taken and "Fearful" or where I say "I am afraid"
4. Posting anything thought out, researched, or factual generally goes unresponded to. Thus, humor is more fun.
5. So, unless I agree with all of your ideologies, I am afraid.

I am "Afraid" you are simply wrong, son.

1. If your pic were meant to be satirical then I misinterpreted. 
2. That was crappy of that person. Do you lump all people in one group as good or bad from the actions of one of them? I doubt it. Why do it now? Why the appeal to emotion? What do you hope to get from it?

3. Again, if satirical then I misunderstood. But if you feel they are legit. Then it’s obviously fearful of people simply being their authentic selves. Which smacks of self hate or just hate. Hate is fear. 
4. Fair point. 
5. Nope.  your simple response may have been misunderstood as explained above.  But perhaps you still are. 
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[ThreePointTakedown]

8 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

I understand this part. But they expect us to ignore that.

Ignore which?

[Viratas]

I am not afraid, and the images I posed were satire yes. This country is f&^&%&% up on both sides. I think one more than others, but come down here and hang near the FL/GA line and there are just as many nuts on both sides!

[Gene Mills Fan]

6 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Ignore which?

they want us and women to ignore that  their sex didn't change when  they transitioned and then sign up for volleyball or use the other sex bathroom. They expect that we ignore that their sex did not change and all should treat them like they are the other sex.

Edited 9 hours ago by Gene Mills Fan

[ThreePointTakedown]

8 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Here is where you’re dead wrong. It’s a scientific fact since the beginning of time.  You who are trying to change the rules must prove it.  
 

also empathy is not the issue.  And it is not what they are teaching.    They are pushing that which is not normal is normal.    They are shaming them into believing there is more than one sex and there is not.  They make them say it.  You are not allowed to disagree with these teachers.  That is not empathy.  That is forced ideology .

 

i also think religion has zero or should have zero part In schools.  (Public ones). 
 

reading 

writing

arithmetic. 
 

It’s these subjects that we are losing ground on the world stage on.  Spending time on pixies and made up fairy dust is just a distraction from actual learning. 

Sorry. Let me catch you up. The original question was about indoctrination. And how much time is spent during school about talking about transgender people. It is a fact, these people do exist. And the original poster did not answer the question because they do not have sufficient qualifications to determine what is or isn’t ‘a ton’ time. I can appreciate an opinion, but this is just a wrong opinion.
I’m sorry, but I’m gonna have to say it again. Where is your evidence that they’re teaching this is normal? I believe they’re teaching this as a thing that can happen. And since there’s plenty of evidence out there so far that something like this, can and does happen. It’s the responsibility of teachers to teach that.
Again, where is the evidence that ‘shamming’ is happening? Keep your feelings out of this.
 

Agreed about religion. But that’s not what we’re talking about.
What about shop and cooking and financial literacy and driving and history and art?

[ThreePointTakedown]

11 minutes ago, Caveira said:

There are just two genders and two sexes boss.  You can’t feel like a goat and be a goat any more than you can feel like a woman and be one.  You can cross dress all you like.  You can change your name to Nancy or 3point take down.   That’s your right.  You have the right not to be persecuted.  You have a right to live your life in peace.  You don’t have the right to change science and make the normal people get on board with it…. And force it on kids with the goal to ideologically change thought for a generation so in the future your ideology is now set in stone.  Which is what is attempting to happen. 

Ignorant bigoted statement if I ever saw one. 
Sorry buddy, but it’s gonna happen whether you like it or not. Actually, it already has. I have a feeling you know that and it terrifies you. That’s why you’re taking your impotent rage out on an anon That’s why you’re taking your impotent rage out on an anonymous message board. You should really talk to somebody about this cause it’s kind of unhealthy.

[Caveira]

Just now, ThreePointTakedown said:

Sorry. Let me catch you up. The original question was about indoctrination. And how much time is spent during school about talking about transgender people. It is a fact, these people do exist. And the original poster did not answer the question because they do not have sufficient qualifications to determine what is or isn’t ‘a ton’ time. I can appreciate an opinion, but this is just a wrong opinion.
I’m sorry, but I’m gonna have to say it again. Where is your evidence that they’re teaching this is normal? I believe they’re teaching this as a thing that can happen. And since there’s plenty of evidence out there so far that something like this, can and does happen. It’s the responsibility of teachers to teach that.
Again, where is the evidence that ‘shamming’ is happening? Keep your feelings out of this.
 

Agreed about religion. But that’s not what we’re talking about.
What about shop and cooking and financial literacy and driving and history and art?

My kids and all the kids they hang around with come home and tell us.   Their parents.   I also posted an article above where Pritzker and Johnson are saying they are keeping their trans agendas in schools.  If you don’t have eyes I can’t open them for you. 
 

again.  Politics don’t belong in schools.  More than 0 discussion is to Much 

 

trans people have all the rights everyone else have.   As I’ve stated.  They have the right to cross dress or call themselves mumbo jumbo the ant eater.  Just no need to tell 7 or 6 year olds they have to agree that if you think your an orange then your an orange.   When in fact you’re not.  

[ThreePointTakedown]

12 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

teachers are not always good they are stewards of their own ideology!

Not wrong. 
But how many of them do you think get paid enough to go above and beyond and a indoctrinate kids about the subjects that we’re talking about rather than just teaching them the things they need to pass the test so that they can get a tiny bonus at the end of the year? 
You’re wanting us to believe something that’s pretty outlandish

[ThreePointTakedown]

13 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Politics do not belong in schools.  Not republican politics.   Not democrat politics.   And not religious politics.  
 

The 3 Rs of which the world has caught and surpassed us in.  

Still haven’t answered my questions

[ThreePointTakedown]

6 minutes ago, Viratas said:

I am not afraid, and the images I posed were satire yes. This country is f&^&%&% up on both sides. I think one more than others, but come down here and hang near the FL/GA line and there are just as many nuts on both sides!

I can get down with people who can let their freak flag fly. The people that repress it in themselves are the ones that I don’t jive with.

I dig satire. 

[ThreePointTakedown]

8 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

they want us and women to ignore that  their sex didn't change when  they transitioned and then sign up for volleyball or use the other sex bathroom. They expect that we ignore that their sex did not change.

OK, this one a little bit of a different direction.

Why does that matter?

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

but it’s gonna happen whether you like it or not. Actually, it already has.

How do you go from it doesn’t happen to that quote.  It seems you’ve been disingenuous in your argument from the start.   

[Gene Mills Fan]

6 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Not wrong. 
But how many of them do you think get paid enough to go above and beyond and a indoctrinate kids about the subjects that we’re talking about rather than just teaching them the things they need to pass the test so that they can get a tiny bonus at the end of the year? 
You’re wanting us to believe something that’s pretty outlandish

Not wrong that  not all parents are good.  But 98%(no facts sorry) of parent have more empathy and concern for their kids than their teachers.  

Edited 9 hours ago by Gene Mills Fan

[ThreePointTakedown]

9 minutes ago, Caveira said:

My kids and all the kids they hang around with come home and tell us.   Their parents.   I also posted an article above where Pritzker and Johnson are saying they are keeping their trans agendas in schools.  If you don’t have eyes I can’t open them for you. 
 

again.  Politics don’t belong in schools.  More than 0 discussion is to Much 

 

trans people have all the rights everyone else have.   As I’ve stated.  They have the right to cross dress or call themselves mumbo jumbo the ant eater.  Just no need to tell 7 or 6 year olds they have to agree that if you think your an orange then your an orange.   When in fact you’re not.  

The article mentioned teaching the history of transgender people that’s not an agenda. That’s his history.

You know your kids just want you to like them, right? There’s a decent chance that they’re lying to you to get your attention. If this is the thing that’s gonna get your attention that’s what they’re gonna say. And obviously you’re pretty strung up about this so yeah, this might be something that they dangle in front of you as bait. 
 

I didn’t think you actually had any evidence you were just hearing this third hand. Of course you would.
 

You still haven’t proven its politics. I won’t hold my breath though.
 

Yeah, that last paragraph proves that you’re an idiot And probably a bad influence on kids. 

Edited 9 hours ago by ThreePointTakedown

[ThreePointTakedown]

5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

How do you go from it doesn’t happen to that quote.  It seems you’ve been disingenuous in your argument from the start.   

Seems funny that you call somebody disingenuous after not answering any questions and continually pivoting, but I’ll indulge you. 
Transgender people are here not that they’re teaching it or indoctrinating into children in school People that are transgender are here there’s nothing you can do about it. The vernacular is in the culture already. It’s not going away ever.
But I wouldn’t have expected you to have kept up with this conversation. 

[Caveira]

9 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

The article mentioned teaching the history of transgender people that’s not an agenda. That’s his history.

You know your kids just want you to like them, right? There’s a decent chance that they’re lying to you to get your attention. If this is the thing that’s gonna get your attention that’s what they’re gonna say. And obviously you’re pretty strung up about this so yeah, this might be something that they dangle in front of you as bait. 
 

I didn’t think you actually had any evidence you were just hearing this third hand. Of course you would.
 

You still haven’t proven its politics. I won’t hold my breath though.
 

Yeah, that last paragraph proves that you’re an idiot And probably a bad parent. 

No union is more political than inner city teachers unions.  Especially in blue cities boss.   
 

inventing 50 genders and sexes is what’s illogical boss.   It’s one reason you are stuck with the bad orange man.  Y’all went past we just wanna exist peacefully to you shall acknowledge my pronouns etc.  you shall have drag shows with kids.   You shall not notify parents kids want to transition.    You shall be ok with sexually mutulating kids.   you just won’t admit it. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Caveira

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Seems funny that you call somebody disingenuous after not answering any questions and continually pivoting, but I’ll indulge you. 
Transgender people are here not that they’re teaching it or indoctrinating into children in school People that are transgender are here there’s nothing you can do about it. The vernacular is in the culture already. It’s not going away ever.
But I wouldn’t have expected you to have kept up with this conversation. 

What are your questions boss.  I’ll take a crack at em 

[Scouts Honor]

[Scouts Honor]

18 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Not wrong. 
But how many of them do you think get paid enough to go above and beyond and a indoctrinate kids about the subjects that we’re talking about rather than just teaching them the things they need to pass the test so that they can get a tiny bonus at the end of the year? 
You’re wanting us to believe something that’s pretty outlandish

many of them would do it free.. and possibly do

[Scouts Honor]

lol parents are stewards not owners

a stretch but i'll grant your point.

shouldn't the stewards be informed of changes in their charges from other 'stewards'? 

[Viratas]

Ok... so this data is from the Federal Election Commission and the Department of Labor. I think people should consider the possibility of slight political bias in public schools. 

"The major teachers' unions (NEA and AFT) direct a massive majority—often over 95% of their political contributions—to Democratic candidates and left-leaning political action committees"

[mspart]

In WA, the legislature passed an Initiative to the legislature that called for the schools to tell parents what is going on with their kids, that parents can come in and inspect the curriculum.   After passing that, the state did not enforce it.  Why?  Because the plan was to pass a law in the next session to essentially get rid of that new law.   They only passed the initiative so it wouldn't get to the voters.   So now there are two new initiatives, one to do the same as before, and the other to keep boys out of girls sports.   Signature gatherers are being assaulted everyday, people are coming and destroying the signature pages and overturning the tables etc.   All the while the Ds here say we have to save our democracy.  It is just a little bit hypocritical to do these things to people exercising the most basic right of a democracy.    

mspart