Fallacies (list, thoughts, and possible examples)

[JimmySpeaks]

31 minutes ago, red viking said:

Its not the unions. The laws literally allow corruption. Alderpersons get paid off by businesses or the businesses don't get permits. As always, you have no idea what you're talking about. 

And the unions take full advantage of the using the corruption.  Unions are corrupt as fu&$. Anyone that think otherwise is ignoring the facts.   But you already know that 

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

And the unions take full advantage of the using the corruption.  Unions are corrupt as fu&$. Anyone that think otherwise is ignoring the facts.   But you already know that 

Businesses routinely pay off aldermen. Unions have nothing to do with it. You're living in the 70s. Welcome to 2025. Unions exist, but not nearly as powerful as they were. 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Businesses routinely pay off aldermen. Unions have nothing to do with it. You're living in the 70s. Welcome to 2025. Unions exist, but not nearly as powerful as they were. 

Never said they were as powerful (and that’s a good thing).  I said they’re corrupt. Always will be. 

[red viking]

1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Never said they were as powerful (and that’s a good thing).  I said they’re corrupt. Always will be. 

Not generally. I'm sure there's some corruption somewhere, but completely dwarfed by the correlation occurring involving businesses. 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Not generally. I'm sure there's some corruption somewhere, but completely dwarfed by the correlation occurring involving businesses. 

Then there’s no need to ever bail out a public sector pension

[Offthemat]

 

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Then there’s no need to ever bail out a public sector pension

Bs. People agree to jobs partially based upon that being part of their compensation package. If govt promises it, they gotta pay it. Too bad so sad. Pay what u agree to. 

[JimmySpeaks]

9 minutes ago, red viking said:

Bs. People agree to jobs partially based upon that being part of their compensation package. If govt promises it, they gotta pay it. Too bad so sad. Pay what u agree to. 

Not if the unions mismanage it 

[JimmySpeaks]

16 minutes ago, red viking said:

Not generally. I'm sure there's some corruption somewhere, but completely dwarfed by the correlation occurring involving businesses. 

Some corruption. Bahahahahahah 

it’s everywhere 

https://unionfacts.com/unions-101/crime-corruption/

[mspart]

https://cha.house.gov/2024/6/nancy-pelosi-contradicts-her-own-narrative-of-january-6-hbo-footage-shows

She lies, the minx.  

mspart

[red viking]

36 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Some corruption. Bahahahahahah 

it’s everywhere 

https://unionfacts.com/unions-101/crime-corruption/

Not reading that crap. That's a right wing 501c3 rt wing propaganda site. 

[JimmySpeaks]

7 minutes ago, red viking said:

Not reading that crap. That's a right wing 501c3 rt wing propaganda site. 

It’s a fact.  Thousands of examples. 

Edited Thursday at 09:54 PM by JimmySpeaks

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

It’s a fact.  Thousands of examples. 

I only read from objective sources. Not political crap. 

[Paul158]

52 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

 

This is long overdue. A few criminal indictments would be great.

[Viratas]

Back to my point yesterday, the flat out gaslighting is amazing to me, like they all forgot the internet exists

[JimmySpeaks]

6 minutes ago, red viking said:

I only read from objective sources. Not political crap. 

Bullshi$

[ThreePointTakedown]

16 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Never said they were as powerful (and that’s a good thing).  I said they’re corrupt. Always will be. 

Were unions always corrupt in your opinion? If so what makes you believe that?

[Viratas]

2 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Were unions always corrupt in your opinion? If so what makes you believe that?

I support 90% of labor Unions or at least what they originally were designed to do, I support their initial mission. 

I do not support professional unions. 

[Viratas]

Fallacy = Obamacare made Healthcare more Affordable.... Simply not true, most Americans.

 

[JimmySpeaks]

4 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Were unions always corrupt in your opinion? If so what makes you believe that?

Nope 

[Scouts Honor]

16 hours ago, red viking said:

Businesses routinely pay off aldermen. Unions have nothing to do with it. You're living in the 70s. Welcome to 2025. Unions exist, but not nearly as powerful as they were. 

laughs in jimmy hoffa

[Scouts Honor]

16 hours ago, red viking said:

Not generally. I'm sure there's some corruption somewhere, but completely dwarfed by the correlation occurring involving businesses. 

google is your friend

[Scouts Honor]

16 hours ago, red viking said:

Bs. People agree to jobs partially based upon that being part of their compensation package. If govt promises it, they gotta pay it. Too bad so sad. Pay what u agree to. 

yeah, i agree. why isn't the money there? 

[ThreePointTakedown]

Argument to moderation (false compromise, middle ground, fallacy of the mean, argumentum ad temperantiam) – assuming that a compromise between two positions is always correct.

 

Lesser of two evils can still be evil to some degree. Example: The ACA was a compromise to lower health care costs by spreading the cost out to more people. But it did continue to allow health insurance companies to profit from denying people coverage for their health care. Which is not evil(because I don't think evil exists) but it allows bad people to continue doing bad things for profit. 

#2 housing crisis bail out. It saved the economy of our country and much of the rest of the world. But, like above, continued to allow bad people to continue doing bad stuff, for profit. Seems like the phrase 'for profit' can be associated for a lot of the bad stuff going on in our country right now. Please convince me otherwise. 

[Scouts Honor]

15 hours ago, red viking said:

Not reading that crap. That's a right wing 501c3 rt wing propaganda site.