U23 World Champoinships...

[D3 for LU]

11 minutes ago, maligned said:

Didn't Otto have criteria?

 

10 minutes ago, maligned said:

Why didn't Black have criteria there with the later score?

Good question, maligned... I thought of that as well.

But I seemed to recall a discussion (or rule change) about passivity being rewarded (if tied like this match) to the offensive wrestler that causes that call to his opponent. 

Normally, one would have figured, since Black scored last, that he would get criteria. 

Somebody who has a better grasp in that subject please step in and ad some clarity here.

D3

Edited 9 hours ago by D3 for LU

[maligned]

1 hour ago, D3 for LU said:

 

Good question, maligned... I thought of that as well.

But I seemed to recall a discussion (or rule change) about passivity being rewarded (if tied like this match) to the offensive wrestler that causes that call to his opponent. 

Normally, one would have figured, since Black scored last, that he would get criteria. 

Somebody who has a better grasp in that subject please step in and ad some clarity here.

D3

The Mat's summary article insinuates that getting your opponent put in par terre first is the criteria in this case. I'm wondering if it's only the tiebreaker in these really common 1-1 decisions in Greco. (I'm imagining, for example, that in a 2-2 decision, where both had a step-out and both had a passivity point, we revert to the "final point wins" criteria?)

Edited 8 hours ago by maligned

[D3 for LU]

29 minutes ago, maligned said:

The Mat's summary article insinuates that getting your opponent put in par terre first is the criteria in this case. I'm wondering if it's only the tiebreaker in these really common 1-1 decisions in Greco. (I'm imagining, for example, that in a 2-2 decision, where both had a step-out and both had a passivity point, we revert to the "final point wins" criteria?)

I was thinking along that direction... tanxs for that, maligned (you're not so "maligned" for that.  )

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[D3 for LU]

And by the way... Black is pulled into repechage, thanks for the Egyptian winning his semifinal bout!

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[D3 for LU]

AND... that VERY criteria that we just talked about, happened just now w/ the other 67Kg semifinal.

UWW wrestler lost 1-1 criteria to the Georgian because the Georgian was awarded the point and par terre first due to passivity called against the UWW wrestler.

Wow!

D3

 

[MPhillips]

6 minutes ago, D3 for LU said:

And by the way... Black is pulled into repechage, thanks for the Egyptian winning his semifinal bout!

 

Good stuff...

[WrestlingRasta]

For Greco they changed the rule this year that first point scored is criteria. 

[Rassling2]

1 hour ago, D3 for LU said:

AND... that VERY criteria that we just talked about, happened just now w/ the other 67Kg semifinal.

UWW wrestler lost 1-1 criteria to the Georgian because the Georgian was awarded the point and par terre first due to passivity called against the UWW wrestler.

Wow!

D3

 

The forum is fortunate to have you D3 - all your time and effort to keep the rest of us informed has not gone unnoticed. Thank you!

[maligned]

22 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

For Greco they changed the rule this year that first point scored is criteria. 

In all situations, or only when passivity is the only scoring?

[maligned]

2 hours ago, D3 for LU said:

And by the way... Black is pulled into repechage, thanks for the Egyptian winning his semifinal bout!

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1 hour ago, MPhillips said:

Good stuff...

He's very much in the medal mix tomorrow. The Egyptian struggled to win 1-1 and 3-3 over the tough Dane and Kazakh that have to face each other in the first repechage round--but Otto obviously gets to rest and face the winner. Then the Hungarian he'd face for bronze later in the evening was the only guy the Egyptian beat "cleanly" at 4-0.

[MPhillips]

Lets go OB...

[D3 for LU]

Oh, by the way... Jacobson won the bronze w/ a 5-3 dec. over the Azerbaijani wrestler.

US U23 Greco isn't going to be shut out on the podium!

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Edited 5 hours ago by D3 for LU

[WrestlingRasta]

8 minutes ago, maligned said:

In all situations, or only when passivity is the only scoring?

That’s a good question but I believe it is first point across the board. Not 100% sure now that you mention it. 

[D3 for LU]

29 minutes ago, Rassling2 said:

The forum is fortunate to have you D3 - all your time and effort to keep the rest of us informed has not gone unnoticed. Thank you!

tanxs, Rassling!

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[WrestlingRasta]

16 minutes ago, maligned said:

In all situations, or only when passivity is the only scoring?

From a very reputable source: only for passivity.  Once score goes past 1-1, it goes back to last point scored. 

[D3 for LU]

Looks like todays medal round has ended w/the heavies.

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[maligned]

9 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

From a very reputable source

LJB? 

[MPhillips]

Just now, maligned said:

LJB? 

Trustworthy and knowledgeable... 

[WrestlingRasta]

I shall not reveal a source, but I will say it is someone very invested in the next couple days of wrestling….

[de4856]

Congrats to Payton, fantastic job. Bronze Medalist

[D3 for LU]

Layout the table for Wednesday morning...

Greco will start their final 2 weight classes w/ Max Black @ 60Kg & Beka Melelashvili @ 82Kg.

ALSO, the start of the Women's tournament begins w/50Kg/Audrey Jimenez, 72Kg/Jasmine Robinson, & 76Kg /Kylie Welker.

We'll also have Otto Black@67Kg start his repechage round first thing @ 4AM.

Congrats, again, to Payton Jacobson in nabbing the bronze @ 87Kg

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