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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, maligned said:

Didn't Otto have criteria?

 

10 minutes ago, maligned said:

Why didn't Black have criteria there with the later score?

Good question, maligned... I thought of that as well.

But I seemed to recall a discussion (or rule change) about passivity being rewarded (if tied like this match) to the offensive wrestler that causes that call to his opponent. 

Normally, one would have figured, since Black scored last, that he would get criteria. 

Somebody who has a better grasp in that subject please step in and ad some clarity here.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, D3 for LU said:

 

Good question, maligned... I thought of that as well.

But I seemed to recall a discussion (or rule change) about passivity being rewarded (if tied like this match) to the offensive wrestler that causes that call to his opponent. 

Normally, one would have figured, since Black scored last, that he would get criteria. 

Somebody who has a better grasp in that subject please step in and ad some clarity here.

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The Mat's summary article insinuates that getting your opponent put in par terre first is the criteria in this case. I'm wondering if it's only the tiebreaker in these really common 1-1 decisions in Greco. (I'm imagining, for example, that in a 2-2 decision, where both had a step-out and both had a passivity point, we revert to the "final point wins" criteria?)

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Posted
29 minutes ago, maligned said:

The Mat's summary article insinuates that getting your opponent put in par terre first is the criteria in this case. I'm wondering if it's only the tiebreaker in these really common 1-1 decisions in Greco. (I'm imagining, for example, that in a 2-2 decision, where both had a step-out and both had a passivity point, we revert to the "final point wins" criteria?)

I was thinking along that direction... tanxs for that, maligned (you're not so "maligned" for that. 😏 )

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And by the way... Black is pulled into repechage, thanks for the Egyptian winning his semifinal bout!

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AND... that VERY criteria that we just talked about, happened just now w/ the other 67Kg semifinal.

UWW wrestler lost 1-1 criteria to the Georgian because the Georgian was awarded the point and par terre first due to passivity called against the UWW wrestler.

Wow!

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Posted
1 hour ago, D3 for LU said:

AND... that VERY criteria that we just talked about, happened just now w/ the other 67Kg semifinal.

UWW wrestler lost 1-1 criteria to the Georgian because the Georgian was awarded the point and par terre first due to passivity called against the UWW wrestler.

Wow!

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The forum is fortunate to have you D3 - all your time and effort to keep the rest of us informed has not gone unnoticed. Thank you!

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Posted
22 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

For Greco they changed the rule this year that first point scored is criteria. 

In all situations, or only when passivity is the only scoring?

Posted
2 hours ago, D3 for LU said:

And by the way... Black is pulled into repechage, thanks for the Egyptian winning his semifinal bout!

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1 hour ago, MPhillips said:

Good stuff...

He's very much in the medal mix tomorrow. The Egyptian struggled to win 1-1 and 3-3 over the tough Dane and Kazakh that have to face each other in the first repechage round--but Otto obviously gets to rest and face the winner. Then the Hungarian he'd face for bronze later in the evening was the only guy the Egyptian beat "cleanly" at 4-0.

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Posted (edited)

Oh, by the way... Jacobson won the bronze w/ a 5-3 dec. over the Azerbaijani wrestler.

US U23 Greco isn't going to be shut out on the podium!

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Posted
8 minutes ago, maligned said:

In all situations, or only when passivity is the only scoring?

That’s a good question but I believe it is first point across the board. Not 100% sure now that you mention it. 

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29 minutes ago, Rassling2 said:

The forum is fortunate to have you D3 - all your time and effort to keep the rest of us informed has not gone unnoticed. Thank you!

tanxs, Rassling!😎

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Posted
16 minutes ago, maligned said:

In all situations, or only when passivity is the only scoring?

From a very reputable source: only for passivity.  Once score goes past 1-1, it goes back to last point scored. 

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Posted

Looks like todays medal round has ended w/the heavies.

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Layout the table for Wednesday morning...

Greco will start their final 2 weight classes w/ Max Black @ 60Kg & Beka Melelashvili @ 82Kg.

ALSO, the start of the Women's tournament begins w/50Kg/Audrey Jimenez, 72Kg/Jasmine Robinson, & 76Kg /Kylie Welker.

We'll also have Otto Black@67Kg start his repechage round first thing @ 4AM.

Congrats, again, to Payton Jacobson in nabbing the bronze @ 87Kg

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Live Stream

Qualif Day 3, Repechages Day 2

Mat A

Upcoming Matches

GR - 67 kgRepechage222(DEN) William Morten REENBERG (18)(KAZ) Bagdat SABAZ (21)

WW - 76 kgQualif.224(CHN) Yifei SHEN (2)(BUL) Vanesa Stoyanova GEORGIEVA (3)

WW - 76 kgQualif.225(JPN) Makoto KOMADA (8)(CAN) Nyla Raeleen BURGESS (9)

GR - 82 kgQualif.226(KGZ) Bekzat ORUNKUL UULU (4)(TUR) Alperen BERBER (5)

GR - 82 kgQualif.227(BUL) Martin Krasimirov SHISHEKOV (11)(JPN) Reon KAKEGAWA (12)

GR - 82 kgQualif.228(UWW) Gamzat GADZHIEV (21)(POL) Stanislaw Bartlomiej FUSSY (22)

WW - 50 kgQualif.229(JPN) Minoriho YONEHARA (4)(SRB) Andela VASILJEVIC (5)

WW - 50 kgQualif.230(KAZ) Laura GANIKYZY (14)(POL) Natalia Edyta WALCZAK (15)

WW - 50 kgQualif.231(MKD) Marija SPIRKOVSKA (22)(CHN) Jinyue LIANG (23)

GR - 60 kgQualif.233(ITA) Tommaso BOSI (19)(KAZ) Iskhar KURBAYEV (20)

GR - 67 kgRepechage234(IRI) Ahmadreza Seifollah MOHSEN NEZHAD (17)

GR - 67 kgRepechage235(USA) Otto Elliot BLACK (22)

WW - 72 kg1/8 Final236(UZB) Sevinchoy POLVONOVA (3)(TUR) Haticenur SARI (4)

WW - 72 kg1/8 Final237(KGZ) Nurzat NURTAEVA (9)(GER) Laura KOEHLER (10)

WW - 72 kg1/8 Final238(CHN) Yuqi LIU (15)(IND) Diksha MALIK (16)

GR - 82 kg1/8 Final239

GR - 82 kg1/8 Final240(CHN) Maimaiti ABUDOUSHALAMU (14)

GR - 82 kg1/8 Final241(SRB) Antal VAMOS (25)

WW - 50 kg1/8 Final242(USA) Audrey Rae JIMENEZ (7)

WW - 50 kg1/8 Final243(CAN) Madison Elizabeth MACKENZIE (18)

GR - 60 kg1/8 Final244(JPN) Koto GOMI (1)(ARM) Suren AGHAJANYAN (2)

GR - 60 kg1/8 Final245(USA) Maxwell Hopper BLACK (10)(POL) Olivier Tomasz SKRZYPCZAK (11)

GR - 60 kg1/8 Final246(KGZ) Kubanych ARINOV (18)

WW - 76 kg1/4 Final247(TUR) Elmira YASIN (1)

WW - 76 kg1/4 Final248(MEX) Edna Esmeralda JIMENEZ VILLALBA (14)

WW - 72 kg1/4 Final249

GR - 82 kg1/4 Final250

WW - 50 kg1/4 Final251

GR - 60 kg1/4 Final252

GR - 60 kg1/4 Final253

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Mat B
Upcoming Matches
GR - 72 kg    Repechage    255    (CHN) Waili HAIBIER (22)    (UWW) Danil GRIGOREV (21)
GR - 97 kg    Repechage    257    (GEO) Luka GABISONIA (10)    (UWW) Abubakar KHASLAKHANAU (7)
WW - 76 kg    Qualif.    258    (UKR) Mariia ZENKINA (4)    (UWW) Valeriia TRIFONOVA (5)
WW - 76 kg    Qualif.    259    (USA) Kylie Renee WELKER (10)    (IND) Priya PRIYA (11)
GR - 82 kg    Qualif.    260    (AZE) Elmin ALIYEV (6)    (HUN) Dominik Attila CZUCZOR (7)
GR - 82 kg    Qualif.    261    (IRI) Abolfazl Esmaeil MOHMEDI (15)    (UKR) Ruslan ABDIIEV (16)
GR - 82 kg    Qualif.    262    (UWW) Vadzim PALEYENKA (23)    (GEO) Data CHKHAIDZE (24)
WW - 50 kg    Qualif.    263    (SUI) Svenja JUNGO (8)    (MEX) Ana Sofia PALACIOS HERNANDEZ (9)
WW - 50 kg    Qualif.    264    (UWW) Natalia PUDOVA (16)    (AZE) Asmar JANKURTARAN (17)
GR - 60 kg    Qualif.    265    (IND) Kunal KUNAL (3)    (SRB) Roland VARGA (4)
GR - 60 kg    Qualif.    266    (TUR) Mert ILBARS (13)    (IRI) Sajjad Javid ABBASPOURRAGANI (14)
GR - 60 kg    Qualif.    267    (ALB) Mikel TROPLINI (21)    (BUL) Kristin Lyubomirov PETROV (22)
GR - 72 kg    Repechage    268        (AZE) Ruslan NURULLAYEV (4)
GR - 72 kg    Repechage    269        (GEO) Nika BROLADZE (24)
WW - 72 kg    1/8 Final    270    (KAZ) Shamshiyabanu TASTANBEK (5)    (CRO) Veronika VILK (6)
WW - 72 kg    1/8 Final    271    (BUL) Daniela Petrova BRASNAROVA (11)    (UWW) Liliana ROZHINA (12)
GR - 82 kg    1/8 Final    272    (MEX) Diego Yael MACIAS TORRES (8)    
GR - 82 kg    1/8 Final    273        (USA) Beka MELELASHVILI (19)
WW - 50 kg    1/8 Final    274    (LTU) Gabija DILYTE (1)    
WW - 50 kg    1/8 Final    275        (VEN) Nohalis Alejandra LOYO JIMENEZ (12)
WW - 50 kg    1/8 Final    276    (TUR) Songul KAVAK (19)    
GR - 60 kg    1/8 Final    277        (ISR) Melkamu FETENE (5)
GR - 60 kg    1/8 Final    278    (UWW) ILIA PANIUTIN (12)    
WW - 76 kg    1/4 Final    279        (KGZ) Kaiyrkul SHARSHEBAEVA (7)
WW - 72 kg    1/4 Final    280        
WW - 72 kg    1/4 Final    281        
GR - 82 kg    1/4 Final    282        
GR - 82 kg    1/4 Final    283        
WW - 50 kg    1/4 Final    284        
GR - 60 kg    1/4 Final    285        
 

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Mat C
Upcoming Matches
GR - 97 kg    Repechage    289    (JPN) Kyo KITAWAKI (22)    (ARM) Arshak GEGHAMYAN (21)
WW - 76 kg    Qualif.    291    (POL) Patrycja Dorota CUBER (12)    (KAZ) Alina YERTOSTIK (13)
GR - 82 kg    Qualif.    292    (BEL) Ibrahim TABAEV (2)    (EST) Ekke Kou LEITHAM (3)
GR - 82 kg    Qualif.    293    (KAZ) Omar SATAYEV (9)    (EGY) Mohamed Elkasem Elsayed Ahmed Saied DYAB (10)
GR - 82 kg    Qualif.    294    (UZB) Samandar BOBONAZAROV (17)    (IND) Prince PRINCE (18)
WW - 50 kg    Qualif.    295    (UKR) Aida KERYMOVA (2)    (ESP) Maria CAZALLA TORRES (3)
WW - 50 kg    Qualif.    296    (IND) Kumari HANNY (10)    (UWW) Sviatlana KATENKA (11)
WW - 50 kg    Qualif.    297    (MGL) Munkhgerel MUNKHBAT (20)    (UZB) Mushtariy TOLIPBEKOVA (21)
GR - 60 kg    Qualif.    298    (DEN) Brian Kurt SANTIAGO (7)    (UKR) Bohdan HRYSHYN (8)
GR - 60 kg    Qualif.    299    (AZE) Ilkin GURBANOV (15)    (GEO) Dimitri KHACHIDZE (16)
GR - 55 kg    Repechage    300        (IND) Vishvajit Ramchandra MORE (16)
WW - 72 kg    1/8 Final    301    (UKR) Iryna ZABLOTSKA (1)    (USA) Jasmine Dolores ROBINSON (2)
WW - 72 kg    1/8 Final    302    (CAN) Vianne Elizabeth ROULEAU (7)    (ITA) Vincenza AMENDOLA (8)
WW - 72 kg    1/8 Final    303    (JPN) Mahiro YOSHITAKE (13)    (MEX) Michelle Anahi OLEA RUIZ (14)
GR - 82 kg    1/8 Final    304    (CZE) Ivo SVIGLER (1)    
GR - 82 kg    1/8 Final    305        (MDA) Alexandrin GUTU (13)
GR - 82 kg    1/8 Final    306    (ARM) Iurik PETROSIAN (20)    
WW - 50 kg    1/8 Final    307        (CUB) Greili BENCOSME CARVAJAL (6)
WW - 50 kg    1/8 Final    308    (TUN) Chahrazed AYACHI (13)    
WW - 50 kg    1/8 Final    309        (AUS) Aika BRADY (24)
GR - 60 kg    1/8 Final    310    (CHN) Zhaojian WANG (6)    
GR - 60 kg    1/8 Final    311        (GER) Georgios SCARPELLO (17)
GR - 60 kg    1/8 Final    312        (UZB) Mehroj BAKHRAMOV (23)
WW - 76 kg    1/4 Final    313        
WW - 72 kg    1/4 Final    314        
GR - 82 kg    1/4 Final    315        
WW - 50 kg    1/4 Final    316        
WW - 50 kg    1/4 Final    317        
GR - 60 kg    1/4 Final    318    

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