Who should get seeded at National Duals? Pick 4

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

I am more curious on the consolations.

Are they done if they lose?  That seems crappy.

No.  True double elimination.  I believe to 3rd.  I have heard "full consolation brackets" from Flo.  I also know that 3rd place winnings are the same as second place in order to incentivize teams in the consolations.

[GlassPrison]

The full bracket and consolation structure/payouts is visible on https://nationaldualsinvitational.com/.  I'd post it, but it's big and I'm not particularly savvy with that kind of thing.

[nhs67]

39 minutes ago, GlassPrison said:

The full bracket and consolation structure/payouts is visible on https://nationaldualsinvitational.com/.  I'd post it, but it's big and I'm not particularly savvy with that kind of thing.

Not working for me.

If you 'print screen' you can ctrl+v here.  I just want to see the brackets.

[MPhillips]

11 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Not working for me.

If you 'print screen' you can ctrl+v here.  I just want to see the brackets.

https://nationaldualsinvitational.com/#bracket

[GlassPrison]

[Pinnacle]

1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

You're the best man! Penn State is the awesomest.  I wish I was their fan!  They shouldn't ever bother doing anything to help the sport.  They ARE the sport!  I wish I could just comment on how great they are constantly!

If you don't like this event, you are free to not comment.  PSU is historically great, but we can still have fun without their involvement.

 

Too triggered. 

[Dogbone]

- Iowa has the easiest road to the Semis

- Bottom half seems stronger than the top half.  Not sure I can see anything other than Iowa/OSU semis.  

- Cornell being the weakest with 1/2 their lineup out and getting drawn in against the host school who is paying for this thing.  Not a full conspiracy but that's convenient. 

- Lehigh/Nebraska might be the toughest 1st round.  Lehigh might only need 1 match to go their way and pull off the "upset"

- Yes, there could be some great individual matches in the 1st round, but too many of these never materialize in the past for me to get that excited about it in October.  

Edited 6 hours ago by Dogbone

[BloodRound]

Something makes me laugh about that Arizona State/Michigan matchup.  

VT and Minnesota should be a fun one, as will UNI/NC State.

[ionel]

5 minutes ago, Dogbone said:

 - Cornell being the weakest with 1/2 their lineup out and getting drawn in against the host school who is paying for this thing.  Not a full conspiracy but that's convenient. 

Well the school isn't paying for it but they are familiar with the venu as is the rest of the B12.  

[nhs67]

So this isn't true wrestlebacks.  The semi-final losers will wrestle for 3rd/4th.

So if you don't make the semi-finals you are wrestling back for 5th, which is a substantially lower payout.

[Dogbone]

4 minutes ago, ionel said:

Well the school isn't paying for it but they are familiar with the venu as is the rest of the B12.  

Would you have felt better if it read: The host school whose major donor is paying for it or are we just being naive that Paycom = OSU Wrestling. 

 

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

So this isn't true wrestlebacks.  The semi-final losers will wrestle for 3rd/4th.

So if you don't make the semi-finals you are wrestling back for 5th, which is a substantially lower payout.

Pretty sure it's the way they've always done Ntl Duals (too many matches if full WB) except for the money thing which is a bonus.  

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, Dogbone said:

Would you have felt better if it read: The host school whose major donor is paying for it or are we just being naive that Paycom = OSU Wrestling. 

 

The Paycom guy (Chad) isn't even an OSU guy.  He is a guy who supports wrestling in Oklahoma ... went to UofCO.   But yeah if it were the "school's" money they would spend it on something else like a new football coach.  

[Dogbone]

4 minutes ago, ionel said:

The Paycom guy (Chad) isn't even an OSU guy.  He is a guy who supports wrestling in Oklahoma ... went to UofCO.   But yeah if it were the "school's" money they would spend it on something else like a new football coach.  

I said he was a major donor, never an alum.   You would think a guy who likes to comment on technicalities would be better at reading comprehension.   

I already acknowledged  its not technically the school's money but Paycom's money and pointing that distinction out seems obtuse at best considering OSU and their head coaches involvement in the creation and planning of the event.  

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

41 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

 

Too triggered. 

Says the guy who was triggered enough to post on a topic that doesn't involve his team.

Truth hurts...

[nhs67]

10 minutes ago, Dogbone said:

I said he was a major donor, never an alum.   You would think a guy who likes to comment on technicalities would be better at reading comprehension.   

I already acknowledged  its not technically the school's money but Paycom's money and pointing that distinction out seems obtuse at best considering OSU and their head coaches involvement in the creation and planning of the event.  

Who pissed in your Cheerios and called it milk?

Calm your tits, kindly - if you please.

[Scouts Honor]

What was attendance like last year? 

where was this held last year? 

[MPhillips]

43 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Who pissed in your Cheerios

They drag those attitudes over from the NWT forum...

[RandolphTJones]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

Who pissed in your Cheerios and called it milk?

Calm your tits, kindly - if you please.

Never liked Cheerios. Too bland, too healthy. 

[nhs67]

22 minutes ago, RandolphTJones said:

Never liked Cheerios. Too bland, too healthy. 

Honey Nut is GOAT.

[nhs67]

45 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

They drag those attitudes over from the NWT forum...

Sounds like I would fit right in. 

[MPhillips]

1 minute ago, nhs67 said:

Sounds like I would fit right in. 

You're not a dummy nor vindictive. I don't believe...

[nhs67]

2 hours ago, GlassPrison said:

Thank you for this.

There are several duals that could be awesome and many that could be decimated by 2nd semester/pitch count wrestlers.

Regardless, Arizona State-Michigan and Lehigh-Nebraska both should be awesome duals.  Oklahoma State-Cornell is likely the one that looks the most different now than if it were in February.

Interestingly enough, the Nebraska-Lehigh winner against the Arizona State-Michigan winner might be the most lopsided 2nd round dual.

[nhs67]

2 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

You're not a dummy nor vindictive. I don't believe...

Don't you dare overestimate my culpability towards idiosyncratic tomfoolery.

[MPhillips]

Just now, nhs67 said:

Don't you dare overestimate my culpability towards idiosyncratic tomfoolery.

If only it was just, "tomfoolery."