Zohran on the Importance of "Merit"

[uncle bernard]

Thought this was a very interesting segment given some of the conversations we've had around here about which values are important to which political ideologies. Thinking specifically of @jross. Would love to hear your thoughts on this answer.

..."that assessment of merit...that's how I view the importance of government and who I will surround myself with when we lead City Hall."

(ignore the editorializing of the tweet, just watch the video)

https://x.com/KaoticLeftist/status/1970312156504826185

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

16 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Thought this was a very interesting segment given some of the conversations we've had around here about which values are important to which political ideologies. Thinking specifically of @jross. Would love to hear your thoughts on this answer.

..."that assessment of merit...that's how I view the importance of government and who I will surround myself with when we lead City Hall."

(ignore the editorializing of the tweet, just watch the video)

https://x.com/KaoticLeftist/status/1970312156504826185

This is the guy who tried to get into Columbia by misrepresenting his race?

[JimmySpeaks]

I hope he wins.  NYC deserves it.  They think people are leaving now with their money now just wait. 

[jross]

59 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Thought this was a very interesting segment given some of the conversations we've had around here about which values are important to which political ideologies. Thinking specifically of @jross. Would love to hear your thoughts on this answer.

..."that assessment of merit...that's how I view the importance of government and who I will surround myself with when we lead City Hall."

(ignore the editorializing of the tweet, just watch the video)

https://x.com/KaoticLeftist/status/1970312156504826185

His comments on judging based on merit is commendable.  That is an impressive clip in a silo.  He is articulate like Newsom except without the used car salesman / sleaze vibe.

But it’s also weird to hear it used to praise some policies that favor collective over individuals. 

Also I would bet money he was given the question in advance.  He was too polished and prepared for a rare question.  His response was well crafted to be on the spot.  

[Offthemat]

The happy talk belies the promises he cannot deliver that are not under the purview of the office he seeks and the programs he champions that have a history of failure, that are not new.  They have just never been properly implemented. 

[uncle bernard]

9 hours ago, jross said:

His comments on judging based on merit is commendable.  That is an impressive clip in a silo.  He is articulate like Newsom except without the used car salesman / sleaze vibe.

But it’s also weird to hear it used to praise some policies that favor collective over individuals. 

Also I would bet money he was given the question in advance.  He was too polished and prepared for a rare question.  His response was well crafted to be on the spot.  

I doubt he got the question in advance. That's how he sounds in every appearance, even in hostile territory (MSNBC isn't exactly friendly territory for him either). He's probably the most gifted speaker on the left since Obama. But you're right that he is prepared for the question because it's the kind of question he's been asked over and over again for the last 6 months.

Moving on to the concept of merit, you said exactly what I was hoping you'd say. It's a good example of what I've been trying to convince you: that your definitions of these concepts are too narrow. Social Democracy/Democratic Socialism is all about merit. The idea is to set a stable floor of living conditions to then allow individual talent to flourish regardless of what circumstances you were born into or fell into.

Guaranteeing every citizen the basic means of living means everybody has a chance to flourish based on their talent, not their starting position. Look at Scandinavia. There are tons of hyper-successful, driven people there even though their politics prioritizes the collective good. It's exactly because they value the collective good that they have such great education and professional outcomes. Nobody gets left behind. Everybody thrives together. You know what is anti-merit? Medical bankruptcy. You can work as hard as you want and still get sick and be financially ruined in this country.

Zohran's view is very practical/utilitarian. He views the mayor's job as trying to promote the best outcomes for the most amount of people. So it doesn't matter what letter is next to a former mayor's name. If they had good ideas and policies, that's all that matters.

[Scouts Honor]

sounds like he wants to implement social credit scores

assessment of merit

did you do your socialist good deed today? 

[uncle bernard]

3 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

sounds like he wants to implement social credit scores

assessment of merit

did you do your socialist good deed today? 

Can you cite the sentence that makes you believe that? The video has captions so it should be easy.

[Scouts Honor]

sounds like he was trained at bykovo but for muslim infiltrators 

[Scouts Honor]

4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Can you cite the sentence that makes you believe that? The video has captions so it should be easy.

i didn't watch the video. i dont listen to commies speak.

i posted based on your statement.

that said, i probably shouldn't read your posts anymore

[Gene Mills Fan]

At work can't watch, is it similar to realizing the problems introduced with DEI.

[uncle bernard]

5 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

i didn't watch the video. i dont listen to commies speak.

i posted based on your statement.

that said, i probably shouldn't read your posts anymore

Lol, no wonder you have no idea what's going on in the world. You bury your head in the sand.

[uncle bernard]

2 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

At work can't watch, is it similar to realizing the problems introduced with DEI.

It's him praising policies from past administrations - democrat, republican, and independent - based on their merit, not party affiliation.

[Scouts Honor]

yes, you are right. i should pay more attention to what the people who want to destroy us are thinking.

 

based on your last post... let me guess, most of the policies are far left that have merit

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Just now, Scouts Honor said:

yes, you are right. i should pay more attention to what the people who want to destroy us are thinking.

 

based on your last post... let me guess, most of the policies are far left that have merit

And the guy is trying to get elected.  He's been told to calm down some of this rhetoric, such as "global intifada."

I recently listened to an old podcast with Gavin Newsome when he was running for governor.  Newsome talked a lot about how, as a business owner, he was sick of all the California state regulations put on small businesses and how he was going to be a friend to small business owners and make it easier to operate.

[jross]

Ingenuine was the word I could feel but not think of yesterday.  Zohran is articulate, intelligent, and ingenuine. 

So I looked up Dinkins and found out that he was not a socialist.  Zohran was spinning that.

Then I looked up the universal pre-K and discovered it had empty seats and failed the most to help those with the largest needs.  So like the intent was good but the execution was poor.

If this was wrestling, Zohran celebrates the merit of guy who introduced selecting a ball from a bag for freestyle overtime rules.