Who unalived Charlie?

[jross]

3 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

At least you're self-aware!

I am grateful to be aware that I am stupid.

Can you imagine betas so weak-minded and captured that they cannot use generalizations to make quick decisions?  Rather they must pander to political correctness?

[reversaloffortune]

1 hour ago, jross said:

 I do not understand how leftist like the sport of wrestling…

This makes zero sense.  Why would anyone like wrestling? 

[jross]

The stupid people are in power now.  What ever will a beta do?  Shoot the alphas.

[uncle bernard]

2 minutes ago, jross said:

I am grateful to be aware that I am stupid.

Can you imagine betas so weak-minded and captured that they cannot use generalizations to make quick decisions?  Rather they must pander to political correctness?

Not basing my worldview on stereotypes is not pandering to political correctness. It's pandering to correctness.

Stereotypes are wrong, and I'm not talking morally, but factually. That's what they are by definition. Oversimplifications that lead you astray. 

It's also the exact kind of thinking that leads political violence in the first place.

[uncle bernard]

6 minutes ago, jross said:

The stupid people are in power now.  What ever will a beta do?  Shoot the alphas.

Sounds like they aren't the betas then are they?

[jross]

2 minutes ago, reversaloffortune said:

This makes zero sense.  Why would anyone like wrestling? 

It is logical in accordance to generalizations.

At the senior level, the attributes for success involve personal responsibility.  Grind in the practice room.  Grind watching videos.  Grind on strength and conditioning.  Healthy mind.  Healthy body.  Be diligent while your competition is sleeping.  Be humble and grateful.  Have heart.  Challenge.  Confidence.  One on one.  Create and execute your plan.  The result of the match is on my merit alone.

The most dominate (often entertaining) wrestler is the most liked wrestler.

Wrestling is one of the oldest grittiest sports.

Wrestling is strongly aligned with right values.

If we took a survey, which politics would align with these statements?  People that agree with the first five will skew left.  People that agree with the last two will skew right.  There is room for everything in between.

1. Underdogs and minorities should be spotted 5 points.
2. The wrestler won/lost because they have one leg.
3. The loser should have their hard raised and be given a participation medal.
4. The loser lost because the rules were biased against them.
5. The loser lost because their training environment was unfair.
6. The loser lost because they did not prepare as much as the winner.
7. The winner won because of their merit.

[jross]

24 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Not basing my worldview on stereotypes is not pandering to political correctness. It's pandering to correctness.

Stereotypes are wrong, and I'm not talking morally, but factually. That's what they are by definition. Oversimplifications that lead you astray. 

It's also the exact kind of thinking that leads political violence in the first place.

Stereotypes are built on facts, but can be misrepresentations and lead you astray.  They are necessary.

[jross]

26 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Sounds like they aren't the betas then are they?

betas routinely challenge alphas.  some become alphas and some remain betas.

[reversaloffortune]

5 minutes ago, jross said:

It is logical in accordance to generalizations.

At the senior level, the attributes for success involve personal responsibility.  Grind in the practice room.  Grind watching videos.  Grind on strength and conditioning.  Healthy mind.  Healthy body.  Be diligent while your competition is sleeping.  Be humble and grateful.  Have heart.  Challenge.  Confidence.  One on one.  Create and execute your plan.  The result of the match is on my merit alone.

The most dominate (often entertaining) wrestler is the most liked wrestler.

Wrestling is one of the oldest grittiest sports.

Wrestling is strongly aligned with right values.

If we took a survey, which politics would align with these statements?  People that agree with the first five will skew left.  People that agree with the last two will skew right.  There is room for everything in between.

1. Underdogs and minorities should be spotted 5 points.
2. The wrestler won/lost because they have one leg.
3. The loser should have their hard raised and be given a participation medal.
4. The loser lost because the rules were biased against them.
5. The loser lost because their training environment was unfair.
6. The loser lost because they did not prepare as much as the winner.
7. The winner won because of their merit.

What? Again you are not making sense.  

[uncle bernard]

16 minutes ago, jross said:

It is logical in accordance to generalizations.

At the senior level, the attributes for success involve personal responsibility.  Grind in the practice room.  Grind watching videos.  Grind on strength and conditioning.  Healthy mind.  Healthy body.  Be diligent while your competition is sleeping.  Be humble and grateful.  Have heart.  Challenge.  Confidence.  One on one.  Create and execute your plan.  The result of the match is on my merit alone.

The most dominate (often entertaining) wrestler is the most liked wrestler.

Wrestling is one of the oldest grittiest sports.

Wrestling is strongly aligned with right values.

If we took a survey, which politics would align with these statements?  People that agree with the first five will skew left.  People that agree with the last two will skew right.  There is room for everything in between.

1. Underdogs and minorities should be spotted 5 points.
2. The wrestler won/lost because they have one leg.
3. The loser should have their hard raised and be given a participation medal.
4. The loser lost because the rules were biased against them.
5. The loser lost because their training environment was unfair.
6. The loser lost because they did not prepare as much as the winner.
7. The winner won because of their merit.

Why would a conservative like wrestling?

Competitors are sorted by weight to promote "fairness" and "equality."

Many holds are illegal to promote the "safety" of the individual.

Each wrestler is allowed to "choose" their starting position in periods 2 and 3, even if they're losing.

The referee is allowed to redistribute points according to what he deems "improper" behavior.

You're being ridiculous. Stop smelling your own farts.

[Doublehalf]

41 minutes ago, jross said:

It is logical in accordance to generalizations.

At the senior level, the attributes for success involve personal responsibility.  Grind in the practice room.  Grind watching videos.  Grind on strength and conditioning.  Healthy mind.  Healthy body.  Be diligent while your competition is sleeping.  Be humble and grateful.  Have heart.  Challenge.  Confidence.  One on one.  Create and execute your plan.  The result of the match is on my merit alone.

The most dominate (often entertaining) wrestler is the most liked wrestler.

Wrestling is one of the oldest grittiest sports.

Wrestling is strongly aligned with right values.

If we took a survey, which politics would align with these statements?  People that agree with the first five will skew left.  People that agree with the last two will skew right.  There is room for everything in between.

1. Underdogs and minorities should be spotted 5 points.
2. The wrestler won/lost because they have one leg.
3. The loser should have their hard raised and be given a participation medal.
4. The loser lost because the rules were biased against them.
5. The loser lost because their training environment was unfair.
6. The loser lost because they did not prepare as much as the winner.
7. The winner won because of their merit.

You do realize that Jordan Burroughs, one the all time greats- has liberal views?

This is nonsensical to the point it shouldn't even be taken seriously or acknowledged. Again, this view is a shame and an example of being buried into an echo chamber so deep that even the thought of people of different political beliefs having similar attributes and passions is not fathomable. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Doublehalf

[uncle bernard]

40 minutes ago, jross said:

It is logical in accordance to generalizations.

 

"It is logical according to [thing that is inherently illogical]."

We've got the next great philosopher on our hands folks lol

[1032004]

3 hours ago, Caveira said:

Be careful.  @1032004 may ask for your family tree.  A birth certificate and a certified affidavit to make sure you aren’t lying.   He 100% won’t believe you and will call you out 1,000 times on this.  Don’t worry I got your back.

Kirk was actually one of the people that you said you didn’t know…if someone follows politics at all, they probably should have known who he was before yesterday 

[jross]

1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

Why would a conservative like wrestling?

Competitors are sorted by weight to promote "fairness" and "equality."

Many holds are illegal to promote the "safety" of the individual.

Each wrestler is allowed to "choose" their starting position in periods 2 and 3, even if they're losing.

The referee is allowed to redistribute points according to what he deems "improper" behavior.

You're being ridiculous. Stop smelling your own farts.

Nice try.

Conservatives support rules for order.

[jross]

1 hour ago, Doublehalf said:

You do realize that Jordan Burroughs, one the all time greats- has liberal views?

This is nonsensical to the point it shouldn't even be taken seriously or acknowledged. Again, this view is a shame and an example of being buried into an echo chamber so deep that even the thought of people of different political beliefs having similar attributes and passions is not fathomable. 

He also behaves like a conservative.

There is openness to have a mixed set of ideas and values.

[mspart]

2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

Yes, for the people who are saying this has to be a professional, there are 10s of thousands of people in this country capable of making that shot - hunters, ex-military, general gun enthusiasts, etc...

But which of those supposedly upstanding citizens would do this.   Maybe ex military.   Hunters and general gun enthusiasts are more generally against murder and especially murder for hire or murder for idealogical reasons.  

mspart

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Kirk was actually one of the people that you said you didn’t know…if someone follows politics at all, they probably should have known who he was before yesterday 

I don’t follow him boss.  One of the lefties.  I forgot which one …. The one I quoted said he doesn’t know Charlie Kirk.    I figured you may call him out on it since it seems to be the moral high ground you care about. I was just warning him that your forensic investigation may be thorough 

[jross]

1 hour ago, Doublehalf said:

You do realize that Jordan Burroughs, one the all time greats- has liberal views?

This is nonsensical to the point it shouldn't even be taken seriously or acknowledged. Again, this view is a shame and an example of being buried into an echo chamber so deep that even the thought of people of different political beliefs having similar attributes and passions is not fathomable. 

He also behaves like a conservative.

Having a mix of ideas doesn't change stereotypes and generalizations.

 

[1032004]

16 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I don’t follow him boss.  One of the lefties.  I forgot which one …. The one I quoted said he doesn’t know Charlie Kirk.    I figured you may call him out on it since it seems to be the moral high ground you care about. I was just warning him that your forensic investigation may be thorough 

I know, I was making a general statement.  If he follows politics he should have known who he was too.  But someone with conservative views absolutely should have. 

[uncle bernard]

22 minutes ago, mspart said:

But which of those supposedly upstanding citizens would do this.   Maybe ex military.   Hunters and general gun enthusiasts are more generally against murder and especially murder for hire or murder for idealogical reasons.  

mspart

What are you talking about? There are tons of bad people who hunt or like guns, just like there are lots of good people who do those things.

Do you guys ever see the world through anything other than lazy stereotypes?

[uncle bernard]

20 minutes ago, jross said:

He also behaves like a conservative.

Having a mix of ideas doesn't change stereotypes and generalizations.

 

I've never seen someone prouder to admit they see the world incorrectly on purpose. 

This is a provocative statement, but people who think like you are exactly how we ended up with concentration camps in Germany, gulags in the USSR, genocide in Rwanda, etc...

You don't see people. You've created a reality in your head and imposed it on the world. It makes it a lot easier to dehumanize people when you don't see them as individuals.

You pontificate about personal responsibility over and over again, but you've completely abdicated the most fundamental personal responsibility of all - to see your fellow man as your equal as an individual.

[jross]

4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

I've never seen someone prouder to admit they see the world incorrectly (this is a lie) on purpose. 

This is a provocative statement, but people who think like you are exactly how we ended up with concentration camps in Germany, gulags in the USSR, genocide in Rwanda, etc... (what is provacative and what supports this?)

You don't see people. You've created a reality in your head and imposed it on the world. It makes it a lot easier to dehumanize people when you don't see them as individuals. (what have I said that dehumanized anyone)

Please explain yourself.

Are you still claiming that stereotypes are absolutely factually wrong?  (rather than sometimes factually correct)

And then making judgements based on that wrong understanding?

Edited 31 minutes ago by jross

[Tripnsweep]

47 minutes ago, jross said:

He also behaves like a conservative.

There is openness to have a mixed set of ideas and values.

There's somebody's public persona because they don't want to alienate people, and then there's their real beliefs. When Trump lost the election, Burroughs tweeted out that on that day he was a little more proud than usual to be an American. 

[Caveira]

26 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

What are you talking about? There are tons of bad people who hunt or like guns, just like there are lots of good people who do those things.

Do you guys ever see the world through anything other than lazy stereotypes?

Stay out of the hall of stereo types.  For the record this clip is Greta thunberg level unfunny  
 

Note.  This is south park.  It may be offensive to some humans.  Watch at your own discretion and make sure a parent is aware 

[uncle bernard]

5 minutes ago, jross said:

Please explain yourself.

Are you still claiming that stereotypes are absolutely factually wrong?  (rather than sometimes factually correct)

And then making judgements based on that wrong understanding?

Yes, stereotypes are factually wrong because they're making a simplified, general claim about a diverse group of subjects. It is the opposite of thinking. You're pasting a ready-made judgment about someone onto them before ever addressing them as an individual human being.

And that kind of seeing the world is exactly what leads to something like the Holocaust. The Nazis believed Jews, as a stereotyped group, were ruining the world and had to be exterminated. They pasted a stereotype onto individuals and that made it justifiable in their eyes to kill those individuals.

Same thing in Rwanda: (You are Tutsi) + (Tutsis are evil) = You are evil, and therefore must die. And you, by your own admission, see the world through this framework. 

Let's make it more personal as an example. Common stereotype about conservatives: they are racist.

You are conservative. Conservatives are racist. Therefore you are racist. 

And now you can't push back on that because it follows the exact logic that you're promoting. So, we have established at least 1 of 2 things:

1) jross is stupid and/or immoral

or

2) jross is racist