Who unalived Charlie?

[JimmySpeaks]

5 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

This is an unfortunate statement... It would be like a liberal saying I don't understand why a conservative would ever watch a movie...

We are at the point that people are wholly identifying themselves and basing their persona on their political party... People of different political beliefs are more than able to enjoy sports/entertainment that people opposite of their political ideology also enjoy.

Politics should be about policy disagreements, not a persons entire identity. This goes to show how deep this notion has penetrated you as a person that you are unable to conceive of those that disagree with you politically to not also enjoy the sport of wrestling and its a shame.

I’m guessing he’s referring to how wrestling takes self accountability, self respect and ownership of one’s actions.  

[Doublehalf]

2 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

I don't watch movies except very rarely, almost no television, and if they start with their leftist crap I immediately turn it off. I'd rather watch something educational on YouTube.

You are just one person in a whole big wide world. Just because you don't, doesn't mean others don't. 

[jross]

5 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

This is an unfortunate statement... It would be like a liberal saying I don't understand why a conservative would ever watch a movie...

They do.  They watch Rambo and Documentaries.  Smile more.

[Caveira]

43 minutes ago, red viking said:

actually didn't even know who he was

Be careful.  @1032004 may ask for your family tree.  A birth certificate and a certified affidavit to make sure you aren’t lying.   He 100% won’t believe you and will call you out 1,000 times on this.  Don’t worry I got your back.

[Doublehalf]

1 minute ago, jross said:

They do.  They watch Rambo and Documentaries.  Smile more.

Thank you for agreeing with my point.

[El Luchador]

1 minute ago, Doublehalf said:

You are just one person in a whole big wide world. Just because you don't, doesn't mean others don't. 

Well the same goes for your point. 

[jross]

1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said:

I’m guessing he’s referring to how wrestling takes self accountability, self respect and ownership of one’s actions.  

Yes this is correct.

[1032004]

16 minutes ago, jross said:

reason for conspiracy 

 

I think this is possible.  Ben Gvir, Netanyahu, and literally the official account of the state of Israel have all tweeted about Kirk, of course making it about themselves.  If my search is accurate Kirk hadn’t even tweeted the word “Israel” since August 14, so seems weird for foreign officials to tweet about a political commentator.   

He also discussed with Megyn Kelly the possibility that Epstein was a Mossad agent.

Even though Kirk was pro-Israel, a lot of his Turning Point USA followers were not, and he platformed multiple people critical of Israel (I actually think he did a good job moderating a recent debate between Dave Smith and Josh Hammer)

 

 

[uncle bernard]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I think this is possible.  Ben Gvir, Netanyahu, and literally the official account of the state of Israel have all tweeted about Kirk, of course making it about themselves.  If my search is accurate Kirk hadn’t even tweeted the word “Israel” since August 14, so seems weird for foreign officials to tweet about a political commentator.   

He also discussed with Megyn Kelly the possibility that Epstein was a Mossad agent.

Even though Kirk was pro-Israel, a lot of his Turning Point USA followers were not, and he platformed multiple people critical of Israel (I actually think he did a good job moderating a recent debate between Dave Smith and Josh Hammer)

 

 

I almost added the Israel angle as one of my possibilities but decided not to because some of that speculation is simple antisemitism. However, as you noted, Kirk has recently backed away from his Israel support. 

This was posted a month ago.

 

I don't think this is what happened. Makes less sense to me than the other possibilities, but it would not be totally out of character for Israel to do. They were certainly very quick (and coordinated) in their message making his death about them. Who knows?

[jross]

20 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

This is an unfortunate statement... It would be like a liberal saying I don't understand why a conservative would ever watch a movie...

We are at the point that people are wholly identifying themselves and basing their persona on their political party... People of different political beliefs are more than able to enjoy sports/entertainment that people opposite of their political ideology also enjoy.

Politics should be about policy disagreements, not a persons entire identity. This goes to show how deep this notion has penetrated you as a person that you are unable to conceive of those that disagree with you politically to not also enjoy the sport of wrestling and its a shame.

Also remember that I am stupid.  I'm a big supporter of personal responsibility and self-reliance.  Just a few of the stereotypical conservative traits that lead to success in an individual merit-driven sport.  

 

[uncle bernard]

12 minutes ago, jross said:

Yes this is correct.

You really need to go out and meet more "leftists" if you think none of them value self-respect and accountability. Holding people accountable is a core principle in leftism, often to a fault (see Maoist self-criticism lol).

People need to stop letting clips form their worldview. You're being fed by an algorithm that itself is fed by the cycle of outrage.

[uncle bernard]

5 minutes ago, jross said:

Also remember that I am stupid.  I'm a big supporter of personal responsibility and self-reliance.  Just a few of the stereotypical conservative traits that lead to success in an individual merit-driven sport.  

 

Thanks for linking back to this thread, if only because it begins with you praising Mark Robinson, who we later found out was addicted to posting on fetish porn forums and repeatedly referred to himself as a "Black Nazi." Talk about aging poorly lol.

[jross]

18 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

You really need to go out and meet more "leftists" if you think none of them value self-respect and accountability. Holding people accountable is a core principle in leftism, often to a fault (see Maoist self-criticism lol).

People need to stop letting clips form their worldview. You're being fed by an algorithm that itself is fed by the cycle of outrage.

I'm talking stereotypes.

It is a fact that the right value personal responsibility more than the left.

Don't be one of those guys "but but but"

There are millions of people with a million different views.  Yes you can find (and I know) leftists that value personal responsibility.

Still, its a complete shocker that leftists like wrestling.

I'm stupid though.  I never thought of this reason to fanboy wrestling.

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A successful wrestlers gets out of the sport what they want. That's it. Maintain their fitness and flexibility. Learn some situational awareness. Maybe how to function better/more effectively in a various stressful environments. Use their imagination to see clear and efficient solutions to complex problems before they've even arisen. - Three Point Takedown

 

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[jross]

7 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Thanks for linking back to this thread, if only because it begins with you praising Mark Robinson, who we later found out was addicted to posting on fetish porn forums and repeatedly referred to himself as a "Black Nazi." Talk about aging poorly lol.

I didn't know that.  I'll have to go look up Mark Robinson and what you are staying.

That doesn't change the value of personal responsibility at all.  

[uncle bernard]

2 minutes ago, jross said:

I didn't know that.  I'll have to go look up Mark Robinson and what you are staying.

That doesn't change the value of personal responsibility at all.  

Correct. Just calling attention to one of the more objectively hilarious political storylines from last year.

[jross]

Just now, uncle bernard said:

Correct. Just calling attention to one of the more objectively hilarious political storylines from last year.

Looked him up.  Yea wow.  Not just a few instances... rather one continuous state of hypocritical behavior.

[uncle bernard]

4 minutes ago, jross said:

I'm talking stereotypes.

 

 

You should have stopped right here, then deleted the post.

ster·e·o·type

/ˈsterēəˌtīp/

noun

 

1. 1.

   a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.

[JimmySpeaks]

18 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

You really need to go out and meet more "leftists" if you think none of them value self-respect and accountability. Holding people accountable is a core principle in leftism, often to a fault (see Maoist self-criticism lol).

People need to stop letting clips form their worldview. You're being fed by an algorithm that itself is fed by the cycle of outrage.

As they want to raise taxes again for more handout programs. 

[JimmySpeaks]

8 minutes ago, jross said:

I'm talking stereotypes.

It is a fact that the right value personal responsibility more than the left.

Don't be one of those guys "but but but"

There are millions of people with a million different views.  Yes you can fine (and I know) leftist that value personal responsibility.

Still, its a complete shocker that leftists like wrestling.

I'm stupid though.  I never thought of this reason to fanboy wrestling.

 

It’s his game.  But but what about but 

[uncle bernard]

8 minutes ago, jross said:

Still, its a complete shocker that leftists like wrestling.

I'm stupid though.  I never thought of this reason to fanboy wrestling.

 

And even Three Point leaves out the most basic fact of how a "leftist" can like wrestling: IT'S FUN! That's why I like it! That's why I like all the sports I like. They bring me enjoyment.

[jross]

4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

You should have stopped right here, then deleted the post.

ster·e·o·type

/ˈsterēəˌtīp/

noun

 

1. 1.

   a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.

You are making it worse.

You don't use stereotypes and understand the value of them?

You know... especially at night in the city... you should be scared of a group of strangers, and be even more scared of a group of black strangers.  It isn't about skin color or the reasoning... It is just the facts with regards to safety.  You should keep your hands on the wheel and do exactly what the cop tells you.  Comply with the cop's instruction...

Remember, I'm stupid.

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[uncle bernard]

2 minutes ago, jross said:

You are making it worse.

You don't use stereotypes and understand the value of them?

You know... especially at night in the city... you should be scared of a group of strangers, and be even more scared of a group of black strangers.  It isn't about skin color or the reasoning... It is just the facts with regards to safety.  You should keep your hands on the wheel and do exactly what the cop tells you.  Comply with the cop's instruction...

Remember, I'm stupid.

At least you're self-aware!

[reversaloffortune]

200 yds isn't the most difficult shot with a zeroed in rifle and a practiced shooter. Beyond that, the who and why is purely conjecture.  Maybe politically motivated or maybe some dude trying to impress an actress like Hinkley did.  

[uncle bernard]

6 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

As they want to raise taxes again for more handout programs. 

You: "But but what about but"

[uncle bernard]

Just now, reversaloffortune said:

200 yds isn't the most difficult shot with a zeroed in rifle and a practiced shooter. Beyond that, the who and why is purely conjecture.  Maybe politically motivated or maybe some dude trying to impress an actress like Hinkley did.  

Yes, for the people who are saying this has to be a professional, there are 10s of thousands of people in this country capable of making that shot - hunters, ex-military, general gun enthusiasts, etc...