Epstein files - NOW is the time

[ionel]

2 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Have to say I find interesting, and it's not solely related to this topic but other topics as well, that the ultimate qualifier as to whether or not someone's opinion on available information is logical, or total bias and mental gymnastics, is whether or not that information would hold up in the court of law.  But yet, however on the other hand, when courts of law have in fact returned decisions such as felony convictions, findings of fraud, liable for sexual misconduct, etc etc.......that too is just total bias, hoaxes, and witch hunts.  

It doesn't matter if they release the files or not.  If the "right" names aren't in the files then those on that side of the argument will say they didn't release all the files.  

[Doublehalf]

3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

It’s impossible to think they don’t have the balls to charge him…. And post about times people charged him.  Ya gotta pick a side of the argument 

This isn't all about Trump in the way you want it to be. He's protecting soooo many people by keeping this thing buried and distracting from it. He doesn't have to be directly guilty of the crimes but he can certainly be financially supported and backed by the people that are guilty which is just as despicable. Isn't he the one that started beating the "drain the swamp" drum? Wouldn't this be the biggest deepest swamp of all? 

Edited 14 hours ago by Doublehalf

[Caveira]

7 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

This isn't all about Trump in the way you want it to be. He's protecting soooo many people by keeping this thing buried and distracting from it. He doesn't have to be directly guilty of the crimes but he can certainly be financially supported and backed by the people that are guilty which is just as despicable. Isn't he the one that started beating the "drain the swamp" drum? Wouldn't this be the biggest deepest swamp of all? 

I suppose you would be willing to enlighten us with somehow something more specific?   

[ionel]

11 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

This isn't all about Trump in the way you want it to be. He's protecting soooo many people by keeping this thing buried and distracting from it. He doesn't have to be directly guilty of the crimes but he can certainly be financially supported and backed by the people that are guilty which is just as despicable. Isn't he the one that started beating the "drain the swamp" drum? Wouldn't this be the biggest deepest swamp of all? 

Orange Man Bad !  

[Doublehalf]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I suppose you would be willing to enlighten us with somehow something more specific?   

It's not up to me to "enlighten" you... Have some self respect and initiative and do it yourself. Not sure why anyone on here needs to spoon feed you information readily available with a minute amount of effort.

[Doublehalf]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

Orange Man Bad !  

This is the kind of informed and nuanced dialogue I come here for!!! Thank you for not letting me down!

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

It's not up to me to "enlighten" you... Have some self respect and initiative and do it yourself. Not sure why anyone on here needs to spoon feed you information readily available with a minute amount of effort.

You made the accusation.   Zero details.  Then yapping that people aren’t doing their own research. 

[Bigbrog]

4 minutes ago, Caveira said:

You made the accusation.   Zero details.  Then yapping that people aren’t doing their own research. 

Exactly.  I have a very liberal friend who was in a "discussion" with a more conservative friend about Charlie Kirk and Jimmy Kimble, and the liberal friend started making all these accusations and the conservative friend, calmly, asked to give him an example that showed Charlie was XYZ, and I kid you not, my liberal friend goes "Oh here we go, this is what you conservatives do all the time is ask questions!"  I almost spit my drink out because he was serious.  He of course followed that up with the proverbial "There are too many examples to name one, so I can't talk to you anymore because you are so ridiculous." 

That is exactly what the Double guy does, as well as RV.  I'll give UB some credit, he does provide examples to his claims even if I don't agree with his conclusions or opinion.  GWN is someone that is impossible to discuss anything with as as soon as you ask him a question or push back, he starts with the insults and loses his mind...well until he sobers up again.

[Doublehalf]

I'll ask you some questions back since you all love questions so much...  This shouldn't be this difficult but here we go...

Do you think more than just Epstein was involved in the trafficking of all the victims?

Do you think at least one other person outside of Epstein and Maxwell had information on what he was doing?

Do you think the victims were lying when they testified there were multiple that abused them and others?

Do you believe they were lying when they said they wanted to compile a list of those involved?

Do you believe Thomas Massie (GOP rep) is lying about wanting to bring the files to light?

Do you think Bill Clinton was involved in some way?

Do you believe any other politicians on the left or large donors could be involved?

 

If you answer yes to any one of these questions, then my point is proven that Trump is protecting others that were involved in these heinous crimes. 
 

This doesn't need a bibliography of sources and dates and times- very basic use of half a brain would bring you to that conclusion.
 

Trying to obfuscate that by saying "enlighten me! Where's the proof! Where are your sources! Blah blah blah" falls on deaf ears when you clearly don't care when sources come forward to indict those guilty of crimes you politically agree with as Rasta mentioned. Again- this is the heart of the problem when trying to have a basic conversation with you all... The level of defensiveness and sensitivity you have is slightly concerning considering you think of yourselves as Big Tough MAGAs! Spare me your requests for citations as if you care about their legitimacy all of the sudden when they don't align with your narrative.

Edited 13 hours ago by Doublehalf

[ionel]

1 hour ago, Doublehalf said:

This isn't all about Trump in the way you want it to be. He's protecting soooo many people by keeping this thing buried and distracting from it. He doesn't have to be directly guilty of the crimes but he can certainly be financially supported and backed by the people that are guilty which is just as despicable. Isn't he the one that started beating the "drain the swamp" drum? Wouldn't this be the biggest deepest swamp of all? 

If soooo many people then name names of who he might be protecting and who these guilty bribing backers might be.  Otherwise it's just OMB.  

[Doublehalf]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

If soooo many people then name names of who he might be protecting and who these guilty bribing backers might be.  Otherwise it's just OMB.  

The things you must have to go through between your ears to go from "Release the files!" to "If anyone is involved list them!" 
 

Utter craziness... Are you a hair dresser by trade? 

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

The things you must have to go through between your ears to go from "Release the files!" to "If anyone is involved list them!" 
 

Utter craziness... Are you a hair dresser by trade? 

I said "who he might be" not who is in the files.  You brought it up so what's your big "might be" list. 

[Doublehalf]

3 minutes ago, ionel said:

I said "who he might be" not who is in the files.  You brought it up so what's your big "might be" list

I'm not 100% sure on this but over time there are some pretty strong indications that the following people could be and likely are on the list. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they were engaged in very nefarious and unspeakable acts of crime against the youth. They are: ionel, jimmyspeaks, caveira and definitely Bigbrog- that one I'm sure about.

[ionel]

7 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

I'm not 100% sure on this but over time there are some pretty strong indications that the following people could be and likely are on the list. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they were engaged in very nefarious and unspeakable acts of crime against the youth. They are: ionel, jimmyspeaks, caveira and definitely Bigbrog- that one I'm sure about.

soooo many ... or maybe just OMB ...

[Caveira]

21 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

I'm not 100% sure on this but over time there are some pretty strong indications that the following people could be and likely are on the list. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they were engaged in very nefarious and unspeakable acts of crime against the youth. They are: ionel, jimmyspeaks, caveira and definitely Bigbrog- that one I'm sure about.

If I’m in there so be it.  Release the files and jail all those involved. 

[Bigbrog]

2 hours ago, Doublehalf said:

I'll ask you some questions back since you all love questions so much...  This shouldn't be this difficult but here we go...

Do you think more than just Epstein was involved in the trafficking of all the victims? No Gisel, or whatever the hell her name is was involved as well (prove has already been proven)

Do you think at least one other person outside of Epstein and Maxwell had information on what he was doing?  Yes...including the DA way back when this first started coming to light.

Do you think the victims were lying when they testified there were multiple that abused them and others?  Absolutely not

Do you believe they were lying when they said they wanted to compile a list of those involved?  Absolutely not

Do you believe Thomas Massie (GOP rep) is lying about wanting to bring the files to light?  Nope, I think everyone wants to, but there are issues with that...go read TylerDurdens post, he sums it up beautifully

Do you think Bill Clinton was involved in some way?  Not sure, but he was on the plane...but may have been harmless

Do you believe any other politicians on the left or large donors could be involved?  Absolutely...and there are probably people and donors on the right involved

 

If you answer yes to any one of these questions, then my point is proven that Trump is protecting others that were involved in these heinous crimes.  That is a weird way to make that absolute determination...again, go reread TylerDurden's post
 

This doesn't need a bibliography of sources and dates and times- very basic use of half a brain would bring you to that conclusion.  I think you might be only using a half a brain to come to that conclusion...either that or your blind partisan "Orange Man Bad" feelings
 

Trying to obfuscate that by saying "enlighten me! Where's the proof! Where are your sources! Blah blah blah" falls on deaf ears when you clearly don't care when sources come forward to indict those guilty of crimes you politically agree with as Rasta mentioned. Again- this is the heart of the problem when trying to have a basic conversation with you all... The level of defensiveness and sensitivity you have is slightly concerning considering you think of yourselves as Big Tough MAGAs! Spare me your requests for citations as if you care about their legitimacy all of the sudden when they don't align with your narrative.  Boy that is sure an easy way out...LOL...if that makes you feel better about yourself go ahead...what was that about half brain again??

See response in red...also, it would just be easier if you go back a page or two and read @TylerDurden post...he summed it up the best I have yet to read in regards to releasing the files.

And again....RELEASE THE FILES!!

[reversaloffortune]

3 hours ago, Doublehalf said:

This isn't all about Trump in the way you want it to be. He's protecting soooo many people by keeping this thing buried and distracting from it. He doesn't have to be directly guilty of the crimes but he can certainly be financially supported and backed by the people that are guilty which is just as despicable. Isn't he the one that started beating the "drain the swamp" drum? Wouldn't this be the biggest deepest swamp of all? 

I won't disagree.  He is protecting his own hide in addition to many more. I want them all exposed.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

10 hours ago, Caveira said:

If I’m in there so be it.  Release the files and jail all those involved. 

...and common sense finally prevails.

(Weird how it took so long for folks to get there.)

Edited 1 hour ago by GreatWhiteNorth

[GreatWhiteNorth]

9 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

...And again....RELEASE THE FILES!!

Yep.

Edited 1 hour ago by GreatWhiteNorth

[GreatWhiteNorth]

9 hours ago, reversaloffortune said:

I won't disagree.  He is protecting his own hide in addition to many more. I want them all exposed.

We are all in agreement here (finally.)

Edited 1 hour ago by GreatWhiteNorth

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Don't let it pass; don't let it go.

Wealthy pedophiles should never get a free get-out-jail card.

[scourge165]

On 9/7/2025 at 7:28 AM, El Luchador said:

Interesting that it wasn't time when the Dems had control of it. Why is that? 

You DO know the Republicans RAN on this issue and they also had control of those files FIRST.

 

I mean, if you'll remember, Epstein committed suicide under Trump's DOJ...

[scourge165]

On 9/8/2025 at 8:05 AM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Why would he campaign on releasing them if he thought he was implicated in some way?  Makes zero sense.

This is a man who said he could stand on 5th Ave, shoot a man... and he wouldn't lose a voter.

A Trump rally, a Trump supporter was asked about that... and his response was, "if Trump shot him, he probably needed shooting."

We're asking why the Roy Cohn protege, the man who came up with the deny, deny, deny and then accuse those who charging you of the very thing you did method... to rationally answer why he'd say "release the files," when he didn't think they could hurt him?

 

This is SO simple. Because he's a liar. He knew he'd never release them. And I'm sure the Democrats didn't because they knew it'd take quite a few of them down as well. 

But with ALL the video and pictures, the greeting card, the "wonderful secrets" that Trump and Epstein shared, who cares why Trump THOUGHT what he did. Lets go off where we are now, not speculate about the syphilitic riddled mind of a pedophile. 

[scourge165]

13 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

Exactly.  I have a very liberal friend who was in a "discussion" with a more conservative friend about Charlie Kirk and Jimmy Kimble, and the liberal friend started making all these accusations and the conservative friend, calmly, asked to give him an example that showed Charlie was XYZ, and I kid you not, my liberal friend goes "Oh here we go, this is what you conservatives do all the time is ask questions!"  I almost spit my drink out because he was serious.  He of course followed that up with the proverbial "There are too many examples to name one, so I can't talk to you anymore because you are so ridiculous." 

That is exactly what the Double guy does, as well as RV.  I'll give UB some credit, he does provide examples to his claims even if I don't agree with his conclusions or opinion.  GWN is someone that is impossible to discuss anything with as as soon as you ask him a question or push back, he starts with the insults and loses his mind...well until he sobers up again.

Oh wow... well, I was with my Conservative friend and my liberal friend asked him why Trump didn't release the files and he said, "because who even cares anymore? So what if he abused underage girls in the past? Why do we keep bringing up old stuff," and I kid you not,  I almost spit my drink out because he was serious.  He of course followed that up with the proverbial "If Trump was guilty, why wasn't he accused earlier." And when I pointed out Epstein's secretary and another 13 year old Girl both accused Trump of rape, he came back with the "fake news, wasn't even Trump's type."

That is exactly what the BigRob guy does, as well as El Luchador and .  I'll give Great White North some credit, he does provide examples to his claims that are backed up by all the available evidence out there.  BigRob is someone that is impossible to discuss anything with as as soon as you ask him a question or push back, he starts with these silly anecdotal stories that I suppose he imagines really carry weight,  and loses his mind...well until he sobers up again.

 

[scourge165]

Oh, and by the way, Trump said, he doesn't "understand" why the American people are so stuck on the Epstein files because people "don't understand what Palm Beach was like in the 90s."

 

Anyone understand WTF that means? Was it just normal to have 13-15-year-old girls as your "spa" girls and then ban your best friend because after warning him for "stealing" said girls, he continued to do so?

 

You know what? I'm just gonna go the Caveria route(and other people who just post off Twitter;