Brooks story: True or False?

[BigRedFan]

28 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

Completely forgot about this, I was just laughing out loud to how crazy that sounds... 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 04:53 PM by BigRedFan

[Hammerlock3]

there is some serious goal post shifting going on. Whether or not Brooks should be criticized for stating something he believes is a different subject than whether everything he's every said is in good taste and in keeping with the humility his claims imply he should be embodying. 

[Mr. PeanutButter]

1 minute ago, Hammerlock3 said:

there is some serious goal post shifting going on. Whether or not Brooks should be criticized for stating something he believes is a different subject than whether everything he's every said is in good taste and in keeping with the humility his claims imply he should be embodying. 

There has been no goal post shifting. The messaging has been consistent

[Hammerlock3]

4 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

There has been no goal post shifting. The messaging has been consistent

no it hasn't

[Doublehalf]

24 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

there is some serious goal post shifting going on. Whether or not Brooks should be criticized for stating something he believes is a different subject than whether everything he's every said is in good taste and in keeping with the humility his claims imply he should be embodying. 

I think your understanding of the matter is what is shifting because of how detailed and verbose we have to be in order to get the point across that this isn't a matter of denigrating his belief in god but rather his attitude. And after having to fully lay out the reasons people find him a bit insufferable at times you may finally agree but that would mean admitting you may have been partiallly wrong or at least give ground to the opposing viewpoint which is a bridge to far for some on here. 

[MPhillips]

Lack of empathy isn't the flex that some seem to believe...

[BigRedFan]

1 hour ago, Doublehalf said:

this isn't a matter of denigrating his belief in god but rather his attitude.

For me, it's not even his attitude (although his attitude informs his behavior).  If you tell a mom that her child is ugly, it doesn't matter whether you believe it or not, or even if it is actually true:  you're still an a**hole.

[Hammerlock3]

4 hours ago, Doublehalf said:

I think your understanding of the matter is what is shifting because of how detailed and verbose we have to be in order to get the point across that this isn't a matter of denigrating his belief in god but rather his attitude. And after having to fully lay out the reasons people find him a bit insufferable at times you may finally agree but that would mean admitting you may have been partiallly wrong or at least give ground to the opposing viewpoint which is a bridge to far for some on here. 

give an example

[Mr. PeanutButter]

5 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

no it hasn't

I thought about this post some more and reread the last few pages. I think, I might be starting to understand your position a little bit.

When I heard that NCAA Brooks interview initially, my honest reaction wasn't "hey don't disparage Muslims" (I don't care about them) but rather, "damn it Brooks, don't tell me what to think or believe, I just want to watch some wrestling!" Even so, at the time of the interview, though I thought it was awkward and pushy, it wasn't until I saw his YouTube channel, heard his "holy Spirit infused" underhook interview, and listened to the dumpster fire that was the Basch interview that I came away with the thought that this guy was a bit of an asshole.

I think the NCAA interview, being on national television and feeling so out of place with the celebratory and uplifting tone that I think such an event aspires to be, served as the most notable example of why people, including myself, find Brooks to be unlikeable. I don't think, based on my read of this thread, that people were arguing that Brooks was an asshole because he was mean to Muslims. That's certainly not my position. however, I can't speak for the other posters. I do however, now understand why that message may have come across in the first place.

I've been really mean to Brooks in this thread so I'd like to again highlight This interview where he comes across really well and actually changed my opinion of him. But then the failed test occurred and I went back to being a skeptic and negative nancy

[Hammerlock3]

15 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

I thought about this post some more and reread the last few pages. I think, I might be starting to understand your position a little bit.

When I heard that NCAA Brooks interview initially, my honest reaction wasn't "hey don't disparage Muslims" (I don't care about them) but rather, "damn it Brooks, don't tell me what to think or believe, I just want to watch some wrestling!" Even so, at the time of the interview, though I thought it was awkward and pushy, it wasn't until I saw his YouTube channel, heard his "holy Spirit infused" underhook interview, and listened to the dumpster fire that was the Basch interview that I came away with the thought that this guy was a bit of an asshole.

I think the NCAA interview, being on national television and feeling so out of place with the celebratory and uplifting tone that I think such an event aspires to be, served as the most notable example of why people, including myself, find Brooks to be unlikeable. I don't think, based on my read of this thread, that people were arguing that Brooks was an asshole because he was mean to Muslims. That's certainly not my position. however, I can't speak for the other posters. I do however, now understand why that message may have come across in the first place.

I've been really mean to Brooks in this thread so I'd like to again highlight This interview where he comes across really well and actually changed my opinion of him. But then the failed test occurred and I went back to being a skeptic and negative nancy

I appreciate your effort, so I am gonna restate my position as well as I can, and if someone points out an instance where I was implying something else I'll apologize.

"In a world where we are all moving forward productively, you should not criticize someone for saying what they think, especially if you should have inferred that belief already." -Me. If you don't support his belief that is a different and much deeper question than whether he should have said it or not.

Aside from that, I think Brooks has 1.5 feet in the a$$hole camp, I think he's immature and narcissistic in his perception of religion and use of his platform, and I think his public statements are self serving and do nothing to promote the causes he claims to be advocating. 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 11:26 PM by Hammerlock3

[1032004]

OK back on topic. I’m confused how some people are saying Brooks could have used DHEA as a masking agent.  How could it be a masking agent if it itself is banned?  I guess it would help his argument for not getting a longer suspension if he was taking something “worse” that he didn’t test positive for?

[Hammerlock3]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

OK back on topic. I’m confused how some people are saying Brooks could have used DHEA as a masking agent.  How could it be a masking agent if it itself is banned?  I guess it would help his argument for not getting a longer suspension if he was taking something “worse” that he didn’t test positive for?

i think the argument is "I did something wrong, but it didn't help me at all so it doesn't warrant a punishment".

[wrestlingshoe]

On 7/4/2025 at 9:45 AM, Husker_Du said:

Brooks stated what the Christian beliefs are. Muslims state what Islamic beliefs are.

Incorrect. He is saying what his beliefs are. He speaks for right wing Christians. He does not speak for all Christians. 

[Hammerlock3]

6 minutes ago, wrestlingshoe said:

Incorrect. He is saying what his beliefs are. He speaks for right wing Christians. He does not speak for all Christians. 

third attempt to drag politics into the topic....give it a rest dude. 

[Mr. PeanutButter]

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

OK back on topic. I’m confused how some people are saying Brooks could have used DHEA as a masking agent.  How could it be a masking agent if it itself is banned?  I guess it would help his argument for not getting a longer suspension if he was taking something “worse” that he didn’t test positive for?

not claiming to be an expert by any means but I found a couple studies, here and here, and my understanding is that DHEA can mess with the T/E ratio, the primary method that a lot of tests use in attempting to determine the presence of exogenous steroids. So DHEA has a similar effect on these tests that the steroids do. The difference is, the tests are not, from my understanding, always able to detect the substance that caused the increased T/E ratio (ie, the direct agent), rather they more often just detect the result. DHEA is used as a masking agent because these tests CAN detect the DHEA in addition to the elevated T/E ratio, allowing the offending athlete to claim that the wacked up ratio was due to the DHEA, since it was detected in the test, and not due to the steroids, which aren't always showing up directly.

[wrestlingshoe]

48 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

third attempt to drag politics into the topic....give it a rest dude. 

Guess you don't understand the difference between politics and religion. Right wing refers to conservative. That can apply to religion as much as it does to politics. The topic, among others, has been Brooks and his comments regarding religion. He speaks for the conservative side of Christianity. He does not speak for all Christians.

[The Kid]

49 minutes ago, wrestlingshoe said:

Guess you don't understand the difference between politics and religion. Right wing refers to conservative. That can apply to religion as much as it does to politics. The topic, among others, has been Brooks and his comments regarding religion. He speaks for the conservative side of Christianity. He does not speak for all Christians.

Honestly,  he speaks for himself.  

No one takes this guy seriously.   He is habitually blasphemous while being a ped user of the highest level.