Dems have no leaders. Even they know it.

[JimmySpeaks]

2 hours ago, fishbane said:

This is an unserious suggestion.   Why would Canada join if they weren't granted voting rights?  Is a democracy with ~43M unable to vote in the presidential election and without meaningful representation in the legislature actually a democracy?  The answer must be no.

 

[Caveira]

On 6/3/2025 at 5:21 PM, red viking said:

A little (mainly because Iike combat sports and dark movies and documentaries) but more that I don't recognize my male privilege enough. 

Reminded me of you.  There is light at the end of the tunnel.  
 

 

[Caveira]

No leaders.   And apparently no money after dodge defended usaid lol 

 

 

[mspart]

Who are their supposed leaders?   List them here and allow us all a good laugh.  

mspart

[Offthemat]

Abrego

[scourge165]

1 hour ago, mspart said:

Who are their supposed leaders?   List them here and allow us all a good laugh.  

mspart

I already did this;

 

Quote

 

Mark Kelly is my choice. 

I liked Fetterman, but he's had too many issues. 

Kelly should have been the VP nominee. 

Beshear is another candidate. Wes Moore. Mark Cuban could be one. 

JB would have to lose 30-40 pounds to win the election. Fat guys normally don't do well...the current POTUS being the exception(I of course mean in the modern era, not going back to the likes of Taft). 

 

There will be others. Ossoff would be an interesting candidate. 

 

This is all assuming that Trump doesn't "run" again as he's said he would. 

 

 

I'd also add Jared Polis of Colorado would be an excellent candidate... if you just look at his political ideology, but he's gay, so his chances are non-existent. 

 

I'm...incredibly skeptical of anyone picking up from Trump in the "MAGA," party. 

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

No leaders.   And apparently no money after dodge defended usaid lol 

 

 

LOL...ooh...the "Geller report!"

 

That's... definitely a non-biased platform!

 

And the truth;

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Over the first quarter, the DCCC reportedly raised $36.9 million, slightly ahead of the NRCC’s $36.7 million campaignsandelections.com.

 

Why use actual sources with any credibility when you have a wacko and a Newsletter!

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

LOL...ooh...the "Geller report!"

 

That's... definitely a non-biased platform!

 

And the truth;

 

Why use actual sources with any credibility when you have a wacko and a Newsletter!

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/18/us/politics/dnc-ken-martin.html

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

LOL...ooh...the "Geller report!"

 

That's... definitely a non-biased platform!

 

And the truth;

 

Why use actual sources with any credibility when you have a wacko and a Newsletter!

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/3447050/dnc-cash-shrinks-leadership-fallout-continues/

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

LOL...ooh...the "Geller report!"

 

That's... definitely a non-biased platform!

 

And the truth;

 

Why use actual sources with any credibility when you have a wacko and a Newsletter!

https://nypost.com/2025/06/19/us-news/democrats-main-fundraising-committee-so-cash-strapped-its-considering-borrowing-money-really-f-ked/

[mspart]

20 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

I already did this;

 

 

I'd also add Jared Polis of Colorado would be an excellent candidate... if you just look at his political ideology, but he's gay, so his chances are non-existent. 

 

I'm...incredibly skeptical of anyone picking up from Trump in the "MAGA," party. 

Mark Kelly is just not national enough, plus he is a loon.   He has not shown leadership on anything to date on a big scale. 

Polis might be good but no name recognition.   Who is he?

Point taken about Trump's successor.   JD is the  most likely and seems to work in the similar way.  I think most Rs would be on board.  

Harris, Newsom, Hakim, AOC?   Laughable.  

mspart

[scourge165]

14 minutes ago, mspart said:

Mark Kelly is just not national enough, plus he is a loon.   He has not shown leadership on anything to date on a big scale. 

Polis might be good but no name recognition.   Who is he?

Point taken about Trump's successor.   JD is the  most likely and seems to work in the similar way.  I think most Rs would be on board.  

Harris, Newsom, Hakim, AOC?   Laughable.  

mspart

Yeah, I never said Harris, Hakm or AOC.

Newsom would hardly be "laughable," but not my choice.

And if you want to know what someone stands for, go look it up. 

 

But calling an Astronaut and literal Fighter Pilot a "loon," is a little silly. He's also one of the most bi-partisan Senators based on his voting history. But sure, "Loon." (Have you seen the cabinet or the guy who sits behind the resolute desk)?

You want to know what Polis stands for, go listen to some speeches.

JB Pritzker...again, too far, but he looses 40 pounds, he'd be a great candidate. 

[scourge165]

35 minutes ago, Caveira said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/18/us/politics/dnc-ken-martin.html

So...what did that article say and what was the point of contention as YOU see it...given I'm sure you're not just going off a headline, right?

[Caveira]

13 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

So...what did that article say and what was the point of contention as YOU see it...given I'm sure you're not just going off a headline, right?

Evidence the dnc is broke boss.  What’s your opinion.   Please make it long.   

[scourge165]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Evidence the dnc is broke boss.  What’s your opinion.   Please make it long.   

The NYTs article is "evidence the DNC is broke," and that's your takeaway?

Ok, so you didn't read the article. Got it.

 

They raised more than the GOP in the first quarter. My opinion is this is nothing. They have some infighting as David Hogg wants to primary Democrats to put up the exact type of candidates that lose and that we've been primarying to try and get rid of them(Bush, Bowman...Talib) and the larger donors want to see the outcome.

 

You realize you could go and find a dozen of these articles from... the RNC... And AGAIN, the DNC raised MORE than the RNC in the first quarter. So... first, if you post an article that isn't from a right wing site, make sure you can read it. You obviously couldn't and didn't in the first case. 

 

There are...dozens and dozens of articles about donors not wanting to donate to the RNC and the DNC out-raising them. 

 

We're not even close to the mid-terms, much less the next Presidential Election and you're worried about the Democrats when the right is normally complaining it's not fair they raise more? LOL....cool. 

 

Now, I gotta go take my Nephew on a 4-wheeler ride...I'll be back when you figure out exactly what your point is here. 

[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

The NYTs article is "evidence the DNC is broke," and that's your takeaway?

Ok, so you didn't read the article. Got it.

 

They raised more than the GOP in the first quarter. My opinion is this is nothing. They have some infighting as David Hogg wants to primary Democrats to put up the exact type of candidates that lose and that we've been primarying to try and get rid of them(Bush, Bowman...Talib) and the larger donors want to see the outcome.

 

You realize you could go and find a dozen of these articles from... the RNC... And AGAIN, the DNC raised MORE than the RNC in the first quarter. So... first, if you post an article that isn't from a right wing site, make sure you can read it. You obviously couldn't and didn't in the first case. 

 

There are...dozens and dozens of articles about donors not wanting to donate to the RNC and the DNC out-raising them. 

 

We're not even close to the mid-terms, much less the next Presidential Election and you're worried about the Democrats when the right is normally complaining it's not fair they raise more? LOL....cool. 

 

Now, I gotta go take my Nephew on a 4-wheeler ride...I'll be back when you figure out exactly what your point is here. 

I’m not worried about them. Seems like they’re worried about being broke.  

[JimmySpeaks]

3 hours ago, Caveira said:

Evidence the dnc is broke boss.  What’s your opinion.   Please make it long.   

Long and completely full of psycho babble 

[JimmySpeaks]

4 hours ago, mspart said:

Mark Kelly is just not national enough, plus he is a loon.   He has not shown leadership on anything to date on a big scale. 

Polis might be good but no name recognition.   Who is he?

Point taken about Trump's successor.   JD is the  most likely and seems to work in the similar way.  I think most Rs would be on board.  

Harris, Newsom, Hakim, AOC?   Laughable.  

mspart

Kelly is a Putz.  I hope they run him out as their leader.  

[JimmySpeaks]

4 hours ago, scourge165 said:

The NYTs article is "evidence the DNC is broke," and that's your takeaway?

Ok, so you didn't read the article. Got it.

 

They raised more than the GOP in the first quarter. My opinion is this is nothing. They have some infighting as David Hogg wants to primary Democrats to put up the exact type of candidates that lose and that we've been primarying to try and get rid of them(Bush, Bowman...Talib) and the larger donors want to see the outcome.

 

You realize you could go and find a dozen of these articles from... the RNC... And AGAIN, the DNC raised MORE than the RNC in the first quarter. So... first, if you post an article that isn't from a right wing site, make sure you can read it. You obviously couldn't and didn't in the first case. 

 

There are...dozens and dozens of articles about donors not wanting to donate to the RNC and the DNC out-raising them. 

 

We're not even close to the mid-terms, much less the next Presidential Election and you're worried about the Democrats when the right is normally complaining it's not fair they raise more? LOL....cool. 

 

Now, I gotta go take my Nephew on a 4-wheeler ride...I'll be back when you figure out exactly what your point is here. 

Dems will need a lot more money than republicans and even if they do it still might not matter.  

Edited 15 hours ago by JimmySpeaks

[WrestlingRasta]

This article is certainly relative to the topic 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-democrats-want-leaders-focus-101144641.html

[scourge165]

13 hours ago, Caveira said:

I’m not worried about them. Seems like they’re worried about being broke.  

No, you're just posting articles that you can't read or summarize because you saw a headline, but you can't even read the article. That's...the definition of being a clown bro. 

They're...literally out-raising Republicans(as I showed you without editorializing it). 

 

C'mon dude, that Jimmy/Scout stuff. 

Edited 5 hours ago by scourge165

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

This article is certainly relative to the topic 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-democrats-want-leaders-focus-101144641.html

Kinda, but we're talking about fundraising, you're talking about a more specific issue. It basically comes down to David Hogg and his position/approach to spending the money on putting up primary contenders to the GOP(similar to '18 when the GOP red wave never came as they tried to run more extremist candidates). 

It's a bad strategy that... doesn't really belong in the DNC. 

Let the special interest groups spend money primarying one side or the other. 

 

But over all this...consternation from the right over how much troulble the Democrats are having a year and a half before...they still raised more than the Republicans with the top donors wanting to see the direction before they spend any money. 

 

Mostly a nothing story and...again, there have been a dozen saying the Republican fundraising was dead. It's kinda funny how people suddenly care about these things June a year before MID-terms.

[WrestlingRasta]

1 hour ago, scourge165 said:

Kinda, but we're talking about fundraising, you're talking about a more specific issue. It basically comes down to David Hogg and his position/approach to spending the money on putting up primary contenders to the GOP(similar to '18 when the GOP red wave never came as they tried to run more extremist candidates). 

It's a bad strategy that... doesn't really belong in the DNC. 

Let the special interest groups spend money primarying one side or the other. 

 

But over all this...consternation from the right over how much troulble the Democrats are having a year and a half before...they still raised more than the Republicans with the top donors wanting to see the direction before they spend any money. 

 

Mostly a nothing story and...again, there have been a dozen saying the Republican fundraising was dead. It's kinda funny how people suddenly care about these things June a year before MID-terms.

6-7 pages in you are talking about fundraising.  I posted in reference to the original topic of the thread.  As I’m sure you are well aware, as original topics get 6-7 pages long, they very rarely stay on original topics. I hadn’t read anything about fundraising until just now when you stated I was off topic, so I decided to go a few pages back.   I don’t participate in and read through and respond to every comment of every thread.  As such it seems, to me at least, the article is very relative to the original topic of the thread.  

[scourge165]

44 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

6-7 pages in you are talking about fundraising.  I posted in reference to the original topic of the thread.  As I’m sure you are well aware, as original topics get 6-7 pages long, they very rarely stay on original topics. I hadn’t read anything about fundraising until just now when you stated I was off topic, so I decided to go a few pages back.   I don’t participate in and read through and respond to every comment of every thread.  As such it seems, to me at least, the article is very relative to the original topic of the thread.  

Fair enough... I do get suckered into these...weird changes midway through that are not related to the original topic.

 

But I agree with that article on that count. I celebrated Bush and Bowman getting knocked out, I'd like to see Pesseley, Talib and...another who's name escapes me. 

Beshear, Polis(if he was straight, I think he'd be great, I think that'll take away from it), JB from Illinois, Mark Kelly is a guy I think would have impacted the election...though he's a "loon," yet I haven't heard why. 

 

We get distracted by these... silly peripheral issues that serve almost nobody. 

 

They'll call a guy like Biden a Marxist anyway, but that's to be expected under any circumstance. 

I do think it's funny who the right view as the leaders on the left.

Someone named Jeffries, Harris(Obviously not)...Newsom(very popular) and AOC...who is not the Cori Bush type progressive they suggest and she may be "a leader," more recently, but not a candidate for POTUS anytime soon.