White Conservatives are the biggest threat

[uncle bernard]

22 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

you asked double half to do the same right?

No, because I had already seen the picture of him in the Trump shirt. It was everywhere. I couldn't find a link showing the yard sign, which is why I asked you to post it so I could see. 

Be more like @Caveira. When I asked for more information, he provided it and it advanced the conversation. He didn't throw a hissy fit because I asked him to provide more information instead of taking his word as gospel. He acted like an adult who isn't afraid of debate.

[mspart]

If this is still talking about the MI church shooting, the guy looks like he was a Trump supporter but hated the Mormons for some reason.   https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/30/mormon-church-shooting-hate-religion

So there are crazies on both sides if that is what you want to say.   He is no longer in a position to cause more harm so that is a good thing.  

mspart

[uncle bernard]

4 minutes ago, mspart said:

If this is still talking about the MI church shooting, the guy looks like he was a Trump supporter but hated the Mormons for some reason.   https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/30/mormon-church-shooting-hate-religion

So there are crazies on both sides if that is what you want to say.   He is no longer in a position to cause more harm so that is a good thing.  

mspart

Yes, and also many people don't fall neatly into either "side." That's why the "he's a leftist/conservative" debate is often fruitless. 

In this case, my guess is his hate of Mormons is likely rooted in his own religious faith, but being deeply religious is not really a right/left political issue even if conservatives are more likely to be religious.

[1032004]

3 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

Yes, and also many people don't fall neatly into either "side." That's why the "he's a leftist/conservative" debate is often fruitless. 

In this case, my guess is his hate of Mormons is likely rooted in his own religious faith, but being deeply religious is not really a right/left political issue even if conservatives are more likely to be religious.

Could have also had something to do with a woman he apparently dated who was Mormon

https://nypost.com/2025/09/29/us-news/michigan-church-shooter-thomas-sanford-called-mormonism-the-antichrist/

[mspart]

He just couldn't get over that woman I guess.   What a burden that person and her family are under right now.  

mspart

[Scouts Honor]

18 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

“When the looting starts, the shooting starts.” - Trump 

“If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously, okay? Just knock the hell—I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise.” - Trump

Sitting Republican Senator:

“We pledge to you that we will root out the Communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical-left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on elections … The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within.” -Trump

why and how does cnn have access to the cartel? 

[Scouts Honor]

18 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

No, because I had already seen the picture of him in the Trump shirt. It was everywhere. I couldn't find a link showing the yard sign, which is why I asked you to post it so I could see. 

Be more like @Caveira. When I asked for more information, he provided it and it advanced the conversation. He didn't throw a hissy fit because I asked him to provide more information instead of taking his word as gospel. He acted like an adult who isn't afraid of debate.

so you admit you dont really care about sources

[Scouts Honor]

i mean really... cnn is more concerned about a foreign band of drug dealers than actual US citizens

[Scouts Honor]

but white conservatives are the biggest threat 

[uncle bernard]

37 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

so you admit you dont really care about sources

No, I'd already seen reputable sources. But to make you feel better, I will ask everyone to cite their sources lol

[uncle bernard]

13 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Could have also had something to do with a woman he apparently dated who was Mormon

https://nypost.com/2025/09/29/us-news/michigan-church-shooter-thomas-sanford-called-mormonism-the-antichrist/

Feels like both. He brings up the standard theological critiques of Mormonism here and his past experience probably sharpened his feelings on those.

While Mormonism has mostly integrated into standard American Christian society, there are still many Christians who despise it. Not the first time I've heard a Christian call Mormonism the anti-Christ. For example, I have a very conservative relative who voted 3rd party in 2012 solely because Romney was a Mormon. Only time he hasn't voted Republican.

[uncle bernard]

38 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

but white conservatives are the biggest threat 

You not going to respond to me quoting Trump/Conservatives saying all the evil things you say only liberals say?

[JimmySpeaks]

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