White Conservatives are the biggest threat

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What do we hear from D leadership every day all day?   That Trump is a fascist, dictator wannabe, racist and all of MAGA are the same.   All without any evidence. 

mspart

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7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Somehow they found a crap tom of liberals who think that.  Where might one find them?   Maybe they get it from their d leadership in that article I posted above and shared by cnn

Well for one there’s no guarantee the respondents were even liberal.  For example that happened during Covid when anticovidvaxxers latched onto a “survey” that reported PhD’s as being hesitant of the vax.  Turned out a lot of the respondents were just trolling.

But again, my biggest issue with the survey is the phrasing of the question.  I think someone would answer yes to that question if they thought any one of the 3.  Sexist alone I could maybe see “most” Dems saying about Repubs

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9 minutes ago, mspart said:

What do we hear from D leadership every day all day?   That Trump is a fascist, dictator wannabe, racist and all of MAGA are the same.   All without any evidence. 

mspart

Can you please provide quotes of 1 per day from the last 3 days of D leadership saying all of MAGA are racists?  Should be easy since you think it happens all day every day.

Thanks in advance.

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Might be hyperole on my part.   But can you honestly say hi have not heard this quite often in the last year to now.   The NO KINGSS protests come to mind.  The Biden admin including Biden said this.  AOC has said this.   Schumer has pointed to it.  Jeffries has alluded to it.   Harris the same.   You can't seriously say you haven't heard this.  

mspart

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25 minutes ago, mspart said:

Might be hyperole on my part.   But can you honestly say hi have not heard this quite often in the last year to now.   The NO KINGSS protests come to mind.  The Biden admin including Biden said this.  AOC has said this.   Schumer has pointed to it.  Jeffries has alluded to it.   Harris the same.   You can't seriously say you haven't heard this.  

mspart

Wut?  “No kings” doesn’t mean they think Trump (and especially not all of MAGA) is racist, they think he wants to be a dictator.  Dictator and racist are very different.

But yes, I agree it’s fairly common for top Dems to call Trump racist. I disagree that it’s common for Dems to call all of MAGA racist.

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1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Wut?  “No kings” doesn’t mean they think Trump (and especially not all of MAGA) is racist, they think he wants to be a dictator.  Dictator and racist are very different.

But yes, I agree it’s fairly common for top Dems to call Trump racist. I disagree that it’s common for Dems to call all of MAGA racist.

Congressional Leaders & Senators

Sen. Bernie Sanders — labeled Trump’s tweet to four congresswomen a “racist and xenophobic attack” and emphasized standing against such rhetoric vanityfair.com+13newsweek.com+13reddit.com+13.

Sen. Kamala Harris — said of Trump: “When I call the president a racist… we must stand together for justice and dignity” newsweek.com+1reddit.com+1.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren — called Trump’s “vile comment” racist and xenophobic .

Joe Biden — described Trump’s rhetoric as hate-fueled, racist, and xenophobicpolitico.com+15newsweek.com+15nbcphiladelphia.com+15.

Sen. Chris Murphy (D‑CT) — called Trump’s border speech “disgusting,” “racist,” and “xenophobic”thehill.com.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar — said Trump’s policies and rhetoric—like the Muslim ban and remarks about Charlottesville—were “decidedly racist” theatlantavoice.com.

Sen. Cory Booker — accused Trump of using “fear mongers, of racists” rhetoric aimed at divisiontheguardian.com+15rollcall.com+15euronews.com+15.

House Members & Progressive Caucus

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio‑Cortez (AOC) — denounced Trump’s “hallmark language of white supremacists”euronews.com.

Rep. Ayanna Pressley — tweeted “This is what racism looks like” about Trump’s remarksvox.com+2euronews.com+2vanityfair.com+2.

Rep. Ilhan Omar — called Trump’s rhetoric hateful and emblematic of racism .

Rep. Rashida Tlaib — joined AOC, Pressley, and Omar to denounce his xenophobic bigotry vanityfair.com.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — called Trump’s tweets xenophobic and racist, leading the House in condemning them time.com.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer — said Trump’s tweets were “racist, wrong, & run counter to our nation’s values” .

Caucus Chair Hakeem Jeffries — labeled Trump a “racial arsonist” and told him to “shut. your. reckless. mouth.”.

Rep. Chrissy Houlahan (PA‑6) — described Trump’s tweets as “offensive & xenophobic” nbcphiladelphia.com.

Rep. Susan Wild (PA‑7) — called his remarks “deeply troubling… race‑baiting”en.wikipedia.org+2nbcphiladelphia.com+2en.wikipedia.org+2.

Rep. Donald Norcross (NJ‑1) — stated flatly: “They are Americas. This is racism.” nbcphiladelphia.com.

Rep. Marc Veasey (TX‑Ft Worth) — said Trump’s “go back” tweet was racist and bordered on an N‑word slur .

Rep. Lloyd Doggett (TX‑Austin) — called Trump's comments “racism, pure and simple” .

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (TX‑Houston) — labeled the remarks “unpresidential” and a stark contrast to American values .

Rep. Al Green (TX‑Houston) — cited Trump’s tweet to renew efforts to impeach him “for bigotry in policy” .

Rep. Joaquin Castro (TX‑San Antonio) — succinctly: “They’re Americans. You’re a bigot.” .

Additional Voices & Candidates

Gov. Jay Inslee (WA) — called Trump a “white nationalist” in public statements .

Julián Castro (former HUD Secretary) — declared “the president is a racist” rollcall.com.

Gov. Bill de Blasio (NYC Mayor) — accused Trump of dividing the nation along race and religiondecider.com+15rollcall.com+15vox.com+15.

Beto O’Rourke — underscored Trump’s racism and the rise of hate crimes rollcall.com.

Tom Steyer — called Trump “a racist” whose goal is to incite fear and hate newsweek.com.

Tim Ryan — said Trump is a racist whose attacks undermine moral authority .

Seth Moulton — described Trump’s language as “white nationalism”

 

Chicago – Mayor Brandon Johnson

Johnson called Trump a “monster”, accusing him of showing animus toward women, people of color, and working-class individuals, after the DOJ opened an investigation into Chicago’s hiring practicespolitico.com+15breitbart.com+15breitbart.com+15.

He sharply denounced Trump’s threat to withhold federal funding from sanctuary cities like Chicago as akin to “terrorism”, stating Trump was holding the city “hostage” chicago.suntimes.com+2wbez.org+2cbsnews.com+2.

Johnson also accused Trump of racially scapegoating communities, saying “scapegoating entire communities is not only misleading, it is unjust, and it is beneath us” .

Illinois – Governor J.B. Pritzker

Pritzker has repeatedly warned of Trump-like authoritarian danger, calling the political moment a “five-alarm fire” and urging “mass protests” and mobilization—likening the looming threat to early Nazi Germany nypost.com.

He also vowed Illinois would “stand in the way” of what he views as Trump’s xenophobic deportation efforts targeting law-abiding immigrants

 

Bill de Blasio (New York City)

In 2016, de Blasio publicly said:

“Behaves like a racist, speaks like a racist… of course … Trump is a racist.”apnews.com+9cnn.com+9theguardian.com+9fox5ny.com+4nbcnewyork.com+4brooklyn.news12.com+4
He described Trump’s rhetoric about Muslims and Mexicans as “cynical racism for his own political gain.” observer.com+1nbcnewyork.com+1

Eric Garcetti (Los Angeles)

In 2018, Garcetti said Trump had done “plenty of racist things” to divide the nation, explaining:

“We do have a president … who is using race to divide us.”washingtontimes.com+2nbclosangeles.com+2apnews.com+2
He emphasized that Trump was “much more comfortable with his racism, letting it out.”theguardian.com+15nbclosangeles.com+15apnews.com+15

Governors

Gavin Newsom (California)

In June 2025, Newsom accused Trump of “authoritarian” tactics and a “brazen abuse of power” in deploying federal forces during ICE raids—describing the rhetoric and actions as divisive and xenophobic.washingtonpost.com+6time.com+6nypost.com+6

Alex Padilla (U.S. Senator, former Governor of California)

In a Senate speech (June 2025), Padilla called Trump’s immigration and deployment actions a “threat to everyone” and “authoritarian tactics,” condemning them as xenophobic overreach. sfchronicle.com

Andy Beshear (Kentucky)

Earlier, Beshear criticized Trump’s “anti-immigrant language” as “dangerous and dehumanizing,” specifically calling out Nazi-style rhetoric to address immigration. sfchronicle.com+4apnews.com+4theguardian.com+4

Ralph Northam (Virginia, former governor)

Northam spoke against Trump’s visit, declaring his rhetoric “racist and xenophobic,” saying it ran counter to Virginia’s values of diversity and inclusion.
 

CNN Personalities

Don Lemon (anchor) opened his show stating plainly:

“The President of the United States is racist” en.wikipedia.org+15people.com+15newsweek.com+15.

Anderson Cooper has described Trump’s statements, including those during the pandemic and "*I poop my pants, don't laugh at me*hole countries" incident, as “racist” and “inflammatory” en.wikipedia.org+1edition.cnn.com+1.

Jim Acosta accused Trump of being a “tyrant” in his final on‑air segment, sharply criticizing his behavior en.wikipedia.org+1nypost.com+1.

Jake Tapper has gone as far as comparing Trump to Hitler, signaling strong condemnation of his rhetoric nypost.com+15thetimes.co.uk+15apnews.com+15.

Erin Burnett — while hosting interviews with critics, aired segments where guests like the NAACP president called Trump “a racist” overtly edition.cnn.com.

MSNBC Personalities

Joe Scarborough repeatedly called Trump a racist, “bigot,” and “openly racist,” especially over immigration and Muslim‑ban remarks foxnews.com+1cbsnews.com+1.

Mika Brzezinski co‑host of Morning Joe, joined Scarborough saying Trump’s actions were “completely racist” thedailybeast.com+15politico.com+15wsj.com+15.

Lawrence O’Donnell labeled Trump “the most racist POTUS who didn’t own slaves” during a heated monologue thedailybeast.com.

Nicolle Wallace has pointedly criticized Trump’s deployment of federal forces, associating it with authoritarian and racist rhetoric 

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no no no

you can't put sources there

they will still deny it. 

but this makes it harder 

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34 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Congressional Leaders & Senators

Sen. Bernie Sanders — labeled Trump’s tweet to four congresswomen a “racist and xenophobic attack” and emphasized standing against such rhetoric vanityfair.com+13newsweek.com+13reddit.com+13.

Sen. Kamala Harris — said of Trump: “When I call the president a racist… we must stand together for justice and dignity” newsweek.com+1reddit.com+1.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren — called Trump’s “vile comment” racist and xenophobic .

Joe Biden — described Trump’s rhetoric as hate-fueled, racist, and xenophobicpolitico.com+15newsweek.com+15nbcphiladelphia.com+15.

Sen. Chris Murphy (D‑CT) — called Trump’s border speech “disgusting,” “racist,” and “xenophobic”thehill.com.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar — said Trump’s policies and rhetoric—like the Muslim ban and remarks about Charlottesville—were “decidedly racist” theatlantavoice.com.

Sen. Cory Booker — accused Trump of using “fear mongers, of racists” rhetoric aimed at divisiontheguardian.com+15rollcall.com+15euronews.com+15.

House Members & Progressive Caucus

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio‑Cortez (AOC) — denounced Trump’s “hallmark language of white supremacists”euronews.com.

Rep. Ayanna Pressley — tweeted “This is what racism looks like” about Trump’s remarksvox.com+2euronews.com+2vanityfair.com+2.

Rep. Ilhan Omar — called Trump’s rhetoric hateful and emblematic of racism .

Rep. Rashida Tlaib — joined AOC, Pressley, and Omar to denounce his xenophobic bigotry vanityfair.com.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — called Trump’s tweets xenophobic and racist, leading the House in condemning them time.com.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer — said Trump’s tweets were “racist, wrong, & run counter to our nation’s values” .

Caucus Chair Hakeem Jeffries — labeled Trump a “racial arsonist” and told him to “shut. your. reckless. mouth.”.

Rep. Chrissy Houlahan (PA‑6) — described Trump’s tweets as “offensive & xenophobic” nbcphiladelphia.com.

Rep. Susan Wild (PA‑7) — called his remarks “deeply troubling… race‑baiting”en.wikipedia.org+2nbcphiladelphia.com+2en.wikipedia.org+2.

Rep. Donald Norcross (NJ‑1) — stated flatly: “They are Americas. This is racism.” nbcphiladelphia.com.

Rep. Marc Veasey (TX‑Ft Worth) — said Trump’s “go back” tweet was racist and bordered on an N‑word slur .

Rep. Lloyd Doggett (TX‑Austin) — called Trump's comments “racism, pure and simple” .

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (TX‑Houston) — labeled the remarks “unpresidential” and a stark contrast to American values .

Rep. Al Green (TX‑Houston) — cited Trump’s tweet to renew efforts to impeach him “for bigotry in policy” .

Rep. Joaquin Castro (TX‑San Antonio) — succinctly: “They’re Americans. You’re a bigot.” .

Additional Voices & Candidates

Gov. Jay Inslee (WA) — called Trump a “white nationalist” in public statements .

Julián Castro (former HUD Secretary) — declared “the president is a racist” rollcall.com.

Gov. Bill de Blasio (NYC Mayor) — accused Trump of dividing the nation along race and religiondecider.com+15rollcall.com+15vox.com+15.

Beto O’Rourke — underscored Trump’s racism and the rise of hate crimes rollcall.com.

Tom Steyer — called Trump “a racist” whose goal is to incite fear and hate newsweek.com.

Tim Ryan — said Trump is a racist whose attacks undermine moral authority .

Seth Moulton — described Trump’s language as “white nationalism”

 

Chicago – Mayor Brandon Johnson

Johnson called Trump a “monster”, accusing him of showing animus toward women, people of color, and working-class individuals, after the DOJ opened an investigation into Chicago’s hiring practicespolitico.com+15breitbart.com+15breitbart.com+15.

He sharply denounced Trump’s threat to withhold federal funding from sanctuary cities like Chicago as akin to “terrorism”, stating Trump was holding the city “hostage” chicago.suntimes.com+2wbez.org+2cbsnews.com+2.

Johnson also accused Trump of racially scapegoating communities, saying “scapegoating entire communities is not only misleading, it is unjust, and it is beneath us” .

Illinois – Governor J.B. Pritzker

Pritzker has repeatedly warned of Trump-like authoritarian danger, calling the political moment a “five-alarm fire” and urging “mass protests” and mobilization—likening the looming threat to early Nazi Germany nypost.com.

He also vowed Illinois would “stand in the way” of what he views as Trump’s xenophobic deportation efforts targeting law-abiding immigrants

 

Bill de Blasio (New York City)

In 2016, de Blasio publicly said:

“Behaves like a racist, speaks like a racist… of course … Trump is a racist.”apnews.com+9cnn.com+9theguardian.com+9fox5ny.com+4nbcnewyork.com+4brooklyn.news12.com+4
He described Trump’s rhetoric about Muslims and Mexicans as “cynical racism for his own political gain.” observer.com+1nbcnewyork.com+1

Eric Garcetti (Los Angeles)

In 2018, Garcetti said Trump had done “plenty of racist things” to divide the nation, explaining:

“We do have a president … who is using race to divide us.”washingtontimes.com+2nbclosangeles.com+2apnews.com+2
He emphasized that Trump was “much more comfortable with his racism, letting it out.”theguardian.com+15nbclosangeles.com+15apnews.com+15

Governors

Gavin Newsom (California)

In June 2025, Newsom accused Trump of “authoritarian” tactics and a “brazen abuse of power” in deploying federal forces during ICE raids—describing the rhetoric and actions as divisive and xenophobic.washingtonpost.com+6time.com+6nypost.com+6

Alex Padilla (U.S. Senator, former Governor of California)

In a Senate speech (June 2025), Padilla called Trump’s immigration and deployment actions a “threat to everyone” and “authoritarian tactics,” condemning them as xenophobic overreach. sfchronicle.com

Andy Beshear (Kentucky)

Earlier, Beshear criticized Trump’s “anti-immigrant language” as “dangerous and dehumanizing,” specifically calling out Nazi-style rhetoric to address immigration. sfchronicle.com+4apnews.com+4theguardian.com+4

Ralph Northam (Virginia, former governor)

Northam spoke against Trump’s visit, declaring his rhetoric “racist and xenophobic,” saying it ran counter to Virginia’s values of diversity and inclusion.
 

CNN Personalities

Don Lemon (anchor) opened his show stating plainly:

“The President of the United States is racist” en.wikipedia.org+15people.com+15newsweek.com+15.

Anderson Cooper has described Trump’s statements, including those during the pandemic and "*I poop my pants, don't laugh at me*hole countries" incident, as “racist” and “inflammatory” en.wikipedia.org+1edition.cnn.com+1.

Jim Acosta accused Trump of being a “tyrant” in his final on‑air segment, sharply criticizing his behavior en.wikipedia.org+1nypost.com+1.

Jake Tapper has gone as far as comparing Trump to Hitler, signaling strong condemnation of his rhetoric nypost.com+15thetimes.co.uk+15apnews.com+15.

Erin Burnett — while hosting interviews with critics, aired segments where guests like the NAACP president called Trump “a racist” overtly edition.cnn.com.

MSNBC Personalities

Joe Scarborough repeatedly called Trump a racist, “bigot,” and “openly racist,” especially over immigration and Muslim‑ban remarks foxnews.com+1cbsnews.com+1.

Mika Brzezinski co‑host of Morning Joe, joined Scarborough saying Trump’s actions were “completely racist” thedailybeast.com+15politico.com+15wsj.com+15.

Lawrence O’Donnell labeled Trump “the most racist POTUS who didn’t own slaves” during a heated monologue thedailybeast.com.

Nicolle Wallace has pointedly criticized Trump’s deployment of federal forces, associating it with authoritarian and racist rhetoric 

Learn to read. I said many have called Trump racist.  But many have not said all of MAGA is racist.

But please, continue moving the goalposts to distract from the assassination of a Democrat politician and attempted assassination of another.

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ok trump voter 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Learn to read. I said many have called Trump racist.  But many have not said all of MAGA is racist.

But please, continue moving the goalposts to distract from the assassination of a Democrat politician and attempted assassination of another.

How many times can I say toss him in jail and… put him to death.    
 

Many on the left asked for the d shooter to have better aim last year.  Don’t recall y’all chastising that.   But whatever man. 

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1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

ok trump voter 

I said many called him racist.  I didn’t say I agree.  I don’t think Trump is racist.  Stephen Miller on the other hand…racist.

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i said you called yourself a trump voter. I didn't say I agree. I don't think you voted for Trump. Most people with a clue on the other hand... voter.

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9 hours ago, 1032004 said:

People have really lost their minds. I even saw some people on X doubting Boelter was even pro life because “being pro life is inconsistent with being a murderer”
 

 

Well...that's fair! Fanatics NEVER show any hypocrisy!

So I guess all the abortion clinics that have been bombed have been by pro-choice left wingers!

See, if you argue hard enough and bury your head deep enough in the sand, you can ALWAYS justify everything by saying your side is NEVER the bad side, NEVER wrong, doesn't EVER have the people doing the crazy, horrible things that are insanely misguided because of their extremism!

Ironically... how you become an extremist in the first place! By claiming your side is the righteous side and anything done in service of it is...justified!

 

10 hours ago, headshuck said:

How many times have we heard the shooter left a manifesto but it’s not going to be released?

Most of the time. Why give them the attention and platform they crave?

This guy is alive though...so I suspect we'll find out. But it's usually just when they die. 

 

We saw that Dylan Roof's...didn't we?

It seems like it's just strictly a matter of is there any legal reason to release it. If not, I don't think it's subject to a FOIA request with it being entered as evidence into...something. Sentencing or whatever.

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5 hours ago, mspart said:

Might be hyperole on my part.   But can you honestly say hi have not heard this quite often in the last year to now.   The NO KINGSS protests come to mind.  The Biden admin including Biden said this.  AOC has said this.   Schumer has pointed to it.  Jeffries has alluded to it.   Harris the same.   You can't seriously say you haven't heard this.  

mspart

Well, calling all MAGA racist is wrong(if that's what they're doing). 

Calling TRUMP racist or saying he's using racist verbiage when it's genuinely hard to tell if Stephen Mueller was writing his speeches using some of Hitler's greatest hits on purpose or on accident are two different things. 

 

"Poisoning the blood of our people?"

Calling people trying to come into this country rats and vermin. 

Some things you can chalk up to misspeaking. "Black jobs." 
The S-hole countries, the way he's talked about Puerto Rico, the Central Park 5(Jesus Christ...he called for the death penalty for kids who were BARELY teenagers). 

 

 

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5 hours ago, mspart said:

What do we hear from D leadership every day all day?   That Trump is a fascist, dictator wannabe, racist and all of MAGA are the same.   All without any evidence. 

mspart

You're conflating a lot of things, but Trump being a dictator wannabe without ANY evidence?

I mean, aside from the Dictator on Day One, the "Never have to vote again," talking about running for  3rd term which I believe you dismissed as him joking and then he came back out and said, 'No, I'm serious, we're looking into options right now.' 

He's repeatedly talked about how he envied the power Dictators had and he's governed by himself. 

 

What is the "State of Emergency" with the European Union," with regard to trade right now? Mexico-Candada. It's a lazy, BS argument, but fine...drugs. Not how most drugs get here. 

China...whatever, even grand that one.

The UK? The EU? That's supposed to be on Congress. 

 

 

 

And if you really want to talk about "rhetoric" they're claiming that Senator Padilla "lunged" and tried to "attack" Kristi Noem during the press conference. They're claiming he made a LEGITIMATE attempt to physically attack her RIGHT NOW as I watch on Fox News... and now Jessie Walters is asking if it makes a Man "more or less attractive," when Men Cry. 

 

Or how about just the absolute nonsense that Biden and the Democrats are communists(and Socialists because there are enough people dumb enough they don't know the difference). 

How often did Trump repeat that one?

 

This righteous indignation over pointing out TRUMP'S racist ranting, authoritarian speak(and lets keep in mind, he was literally part of a plot to illegally stay in office that would have worked if Mike Pence would have gone along with it). 

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1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

I said many called him racist.  I didn’t say I agree.  I don’t think Trump is racist.  Stephen Miller on the other hand…racist.

Well... yeah, but how stupid do you have to be to go and read lines that are almost exactly the same as Hitler used to describe the Jews and not understand what you're saying?

 

Also... it was 1990 that his WIFE said he reads a book of Hitler's speeches before bed...and he didn't really dispute it.

 

This is how the discussions go through. 

1-Thread starts by mocking the idea that the biggest DOMESTIC terrorist threat is Conservative Right Wing extremists.

2-Somewhere in there is becomes about Pol Pot

3-There's a case where an OBVIOUS right wing extremist targets democrat lawmakers.

4-People...legitimately argue the Trump voting, Pro-life guy with a list of addresses and other Wisconsin lawmakers

5-'Well, the Democrats call Trump a fascist and racist!'

 

LOL... you get so deep into the weeds, you forget what the original thread was about. 

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leftist forum superiors keyboard

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how stupid do you have to be...

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LOL...the guy who cannot communicate a single point without reposting someone else's Tweet or a Meme! 

 

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says the leftist talking point queen? 

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2 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

says the leftist talking point queen? 

Oh Jimmy... whatever you want to call me...whilst complaining about name calling, I can at LEAST make a coherent argument based on my own opinions rather than just regurgitating what others have said!

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i dont complain about name calling.

I would be busy all day, b/c it's all you do lately

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2 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

 I can at LEAST make a coherent argument based on my own opinions rather than just regurgitating what others have said!

but with all the latest talking points?

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46 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

but with all the latest talking points?

Sure Jimmy. If you need to pretend I'm in lock step with the left...cool. 

 

You're the guy who is trying to argue Trump is not responsible for Israel-Iran because he 'never fired a shot,' yet Biden IS responsible despite...negotiating longer and also never having fired a shot.

 

I'm quite sure I deviate from the "leftist" talking points FAR more than you do...namely, because I honestly don't think YOU think for yourself. I think you just follow a couple people on Twitter and just regurgitate whatever it is they say.