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Posted
2 hours ago, red viking said:

So if I heard through the grapevine (,i never viewed or heard an explicit order) that ICE wanted to arrest a guy and I allowed him to hang out at my place, is that illegal? 

If you allowed him to hang out at your place after knowing ICE wanted him, I would think that would be illegal.

1907. Title 8, U.S.C. 1324(a) Offenses

Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3).

The bolded one would apply to you as it does to the judge.  

mspart

Posted
2 minutes ago, mspart said:

Based on what?

mspart

He was in a hearing. It's ICEs job to make the arrest but it isn't her job to help them. Tough luck if she doesn't help them. She didn't do anything but allow him into the public space where ICE and only ICE had that responsibility. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, mspart said:

If you allowed him to hang out at your place after knowing ICE wanted him, I would think that would be illegal.

1907. Title 8, U.S.C. 1324(a) Offenses

Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3).

The bolded one would apply to you as it does to the judge.  

mspart

She harbored nobody. He exited through the jury room and then into public area. Then ICE arrested him. She didn't help ICE but that's not her job. 

Posted
1 minute ago, red viking said:

She harbored nobody. He exited through the jury room and then into public area. Then ICE arrested him. She didn't help ICE but that's not her job. 

Tell that to the judge.  

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Posted
2 minutes ago, red viking said:

She harbored nobody. He exited through the jury room and then into public area. Then ICE arrested him. She didn't help ICE but that's not her job. 

Did she comply with all ICE instruction/requests? 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, ionel said:

Did she comply with all ICE instruction/requests? 

Yes. They had an administrative order and NOT a judicial warrant. Therefore they were NOT allowed to enter the courtroom and needed to wait for him to exit to a public area before execeuting the warrant. She didn't usher him through the door that they preferred. Too bad so sad. Cry me a river. Not her job if they didn't have the correct type of warrant. 

This is a complete joke.

Posted
1 minute ago, red viking said:

These ICE idiots need to get their heads out of their rears and get the correct type of warrant if they want to enter a court, non public space. 

I thought you said they arrested her in a public space.  Which is it.   Now you’re a lawyer too?   

Posted
4 minutes ago, red viking said:

She didn't usher him through the door that they preferred.

So you are saying she refused to do what they requested? 

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Posted
Just now, ionel said:

So you are saying she refused to do what they requested? 

She did what she was required to do. She released him to the public area where they could arrest him. Not her job to literally hand him over to ICE unless they had a judicial warrant. They did not. It's very simple. 

Posted
Just now, red viking said:

She did what she was required to do. She released him to the public area where they could arrest him. Not her job to literally hand him over to ICE unless they had a judicial warrant. They did not. It's very simple. 

Why was she arrested and charged with two federal crimes then ?

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Posted
1 minute ago, red viking said:

She did what she was required to do. She released him to the public area where they could arrest him. Not her job to literally hand him over to ICE unless they had a judicial warrant. They did not. It's very simple. 

But you are still saying she refused to comply with their request correct? 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, ionel said:

But you are still saying she refused to comply with their request correct? 

It would have been illegal for her to allow them in the courtroom w o a judicial warrant. She followed the law. 

Posted
24 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Why was she arrested and charged with two federal crimes then ?

I’m smart enough to know that I don’t know exactly what happened in this case so I’m not going to opine yet on whether or not she should have been arrested. But to your point, and just so I’m clear, charges being filed is satisfactory enough for you to know that laws were broken and the charged was charged appropriately…correct? 

Posted
43 minutes ago, red viking said:

It would have been illegal for her to allow them in the courtroom w o a judicial warrant. She followed the law. 

But is she an officer of the court

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Posted
10 minutes ago, red viking said:

Doesn't matter. They didn't have a judicial warrant. No arrest in the court then. It's very simple. 

Wisconsin currently doesn’t have laws or official policies in place that would protect immigrants from warrantless civil arrests in courthouses.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Wisconsin currently doesn’t have laws or official policies in place that would protect immigrants from warrantless civil arrests in courthouses.

It isn't her job to help ICE carry out an arrest w/o a proper warrant. SHE needs to follow the law and only allow an arrest in the court itself if they have a judicial warrant. 

Posted
Just now, red viking said:

It isn't her job to help ICE carry out an arrest w/o a proper warrant. SHE needs to follow the law and only allow an arrest in the court itself if they have a judicial warrant. 

You’ve said that 56 times.  

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Posted
6 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Good stuff, now that the wrestling is over I hope you all enjoy hockey night!! Caps and Canadiens last night was fire!’

I’m too old to be yelling Fbombs at the TV over a hockey game. Both teams score two goals in 11 seconds each. Panthers get the win to go up 3-1 in the battle of Florida!  What a game.  Elimination on the table Wednesday night 😊

Night night all. 

  • Bob 1
Posted

Hey everyone who am I ?

NO standing up for your beliefs/ the other side has beliefs too 

NO having an opinion before waiting until the judges have decided 

NO arguing its mean 

NO derailing a thread with info that has nothing to do with the title of the thread

Always look at the message and not the messenger

Do as I say not as I’d do

when I do it it’s funny 😄 

it’s ok to have TDS 

 

 

 

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