Trump at NCAA’s

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Who of the champs besides Hendrickson?

 Vito aranju

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/trump-greets-ncaa-champion-wrestlers-takes-pictures-fans-title-matches.amp

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, red viking said:

Yah you focused on race. I never did. Its economics. 

Looks like there’s quite a few minority kids in the suburbs huh? 

[Caveira]

Bono.  Fan favorite 

https://www.myanmaritv.com/news/donald-trump-attends-wrestling-match-oklahoma

[red viking]

It's a disproportionately white dominated sport. Evens out a little more at elite levels once the disadvantaged kids break through to college. 

[Caveira]

Local hero and all around nice guy bo nickal

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/president-trump-appears-2025-ncaa-235329903.html

[1032004]

9 minutes ago, Caveira said:

How about your boy Starr?

 

 

5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

How about gable steveson and a host of others:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-posts-video-himself-facing-cheers-boos-ncaa-event-2049262

 

or pat glory

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/picture-gallery/sports/2023/03/18/former-president-donald-trump-photos-ncaa-wrestling-championship-tournament-finals-saturday-oklahoma/11495903002/

 

I was honestly curious, not saying any of them were against Trump.  I’ll put Starocci in the pro column.  But I wouldn’t say simply taking a picture with him means they’re “pro-Trump,” I would expect most of them to not try to get too political, such as Mesenbrink’s in the link you shared.  I also thought we were talking about this year’s Champions, so so far I’m seeing Hendrickson and Starocci.

[1032004]

3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Local hero and all around nice guy bo nickal

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/president-trump-appears-2025-ncaa-235329903.html

Bo Nickal is pro-Trump?  No way!

[wrestlingguy]

21 minutes ago, red viking said:

How many of them grew up disadvantaged? You focus too much on skin color. 

I will request their financial statements and get back to you. STFU.

[Scouts Honor]

3 hours ago, red viking said:

Yes, Trump and the NCAA champs "sharpened" each other. Lol. Against trumps jello butt. 

Given that wrestling is predominantly a white/rural/ suburban sport where more privileged kids have an easier time excelling, most wrestlers overall are conservative. Not a big surprise therefore that there's a heavy republican/Jesus vibe with some of this year's NCAA Champs. 

um, you didn't focus on race? 

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

It's a disproportionately white dominated sport. Evens out a little more at elite levels once the disadvantaged kids break through to college. 

there you go again

[Caveira]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

It's a disproportionately white dominated sport. Evens out a little more at elite levels once the disadvantaged kids break through to college. 

How do those pesky bball kids get so good at bball?

[red viking]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

How do those pesky bball kids get so good at bball?

Natural ability is more important for ball and it takes less money to play.  Cultural factors at play too. There are no wrestling mats at the local park. 

[Caveira]

Just now, red viking said:

Natural ability is more important for ball and it takes less money to play.  Cultural factors at play too. There are no wrestling mats at the local park. 

Aaaah ok.   How about football players then?

[red viking]

8 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Aaaah ok.   How about football players then?

Football is a huge revenue producing sport, so people look hard and recruit for talent wherever they can. Inner city included. Talented kids are found and plucked out and given a chance. 

Nobody is looking for naturally gifted wrestlers in the inner city. No doubt there are plenty but they're mostly left in the dust. 

However, inner city public school almost always suck at football and the top teams are almost always wealthy schools. 

Edited Tuesday at 12:05 AM by red viking

[Caveira]

Just now, red viking said:

Football is a huge revenue producing sport, so people look hard and recruit for talent wherever they can. Inner city included. Talented kids are found and plucked out. 

However, inner city public school almost always suck and the top teams are almost always wealthy schools. 

For a guy with literally all of the answers.  It’s surprising you don’t run big business or some highly successful career.  

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

For a guy with literally all of the answers.  It’s surprising you don’t run big business or some highly successful career.  

Funny you mention....had plenty of opportunities for a lot more that I turned down but I do fine between main job, side gigs and my fiances sweet job. 

Edited Tuesday at 12:09 AM by red viking

[ionel]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Funny you mention....had plenty of opportunities for a lot more that I turned down but I do fine between main job, side gigs and my fiances sweet job. 

... and cornering the gold market don't forget that.  

[Tripnsweep]

I can tell you having coached at a title 1 school that we had a lot of things going against us. We didn't have the parental involvement because parents were either working, wanted their kids working, or didn't speak English and had very limited involvement with school related things. None of those kids could afford going to club practice 2x a week. I paid for kids to get their USA card so they could go to weekend tournaments. The school wouldn't let me use the wrestling room outside of wrestling season, so we had to practice elsewhere when we could. 

Compare that to suburban schools that have more money and parents involved and an administration that was very accommodating. I had kids who were naturally talented, but we couldn't get them what they needed in the off season. One of the better girls who wrestled for me quit because her mom had a baby and needed her at home to help her and also to work to help the family. That isn't going to happen in a district with money. 

[Caveira]

29 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

I can tell you having coached at a title 1 school that we had a lot of things going against us. We didn't have the parental involvement because parents were either working, wanted their kids working, or didn't speak English and had very limited involvement with school related things. None of those kids could afford going to club practice 2x a week. I paid for kids to get their USA card so they could go to weekend tournaments. The school wouldn't let me use the wrestling room outside of wrestling season, so we had to practice elsewhere when we could. 

Compare that to suburban schools that have more money and parents involved and an administration that was very accommodating. I had kids who were naturally talented, but we couldn't get them what they needed in the off season. One of the better girls who wrestled for me quit because her mom had a baby and needed her at home to help her and also to work to help the family. That isn't going to happen in a district with money. 

Talk to rv maybe.  Bball is so much easier and requires less skill to get to the nba.  Maybe you’re just teaching the wrong sport. 
 

it apparently requirws less specialized skills too and does not require specialized coaching.  It apparently relies on natural athleticism.  

Edited Tuesday at 02:36 AM by Caveira

[red viking]

9 hours ago, Caveira said:

Talk to rv maybe.  Bball is so much easier and requires less skill to get to the nba.  Maybe you’re just teaching the wrong sport. 
 

it apparently requirws less specialized skills too and does not require specialized coaching.  It apparently relies on natural athleticism.  

Pretty ignorant to think there's a level playing field in sports, particularly non revenue sports, just because inner city schools do fine at basketball and only basketball. 

If you can't see the differences here, you are completely lost. 

Edited Tuesday at 12:06 PM by red viking

[JimmySpeaks]

I’m still trying to figure out how there’s so many privileged minority kids winning college wrestling nattys while supporting Trump.  It’s gotta be the vibe 

[Scouts Honor]

21 minutes ago, red viking said:

Pretty ignorant to think there's a level playing field in sports, particularly non revenue sports, just because inner city schools do fine at basketball and only basketball. 

If you can't see the differences here, you are completely lost. 

so you are racist? 

[JimmySpeaks]

On 3/25/2025 at 8:17 PM, Offthemat said:

Tripn is still tripn. 

He gets swept a lot on here too.  I give him credit though. Try’s so hard. 

Edited Tuesday at 12:42 PM by JimmySpeaks

[Bigbrog]

50 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

He gets swept a lot on here too.  I give him credit though. Try’s so hard. 

And he has done everything, or if he hasn't, he knows someone who has

[red viking]

1 hour ago, JimmySpeaks said:

I’m still trying to figure out how there’s so many privileged minority kids winning college wrestling nattys while supporting Trump.  It’s gotta be the vibe 

Incredibly racist, to assume that every minority kid is poor.