best president EVER

[VakAttack]

1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

so is that the same as saying trump lied about the trans mice b/c we only spent 5 million?

but anyway... i had never even seen the 14th..until jross posted it

the things i posted all said one of the best 

Out of many, many, many, many, many, many (geezus, stop posting seventeen different posts in a row, just make it one) stupid things you wrote, this is the dumbest one.  There are no studies making mice transgender.  The mice are transgenic, where human cells are included into the mice so that we can see how human cells and tissue respond to various things.

[jross]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

lol, 14th out of 46 is not “one of the best.”  That’s like going 1-2 at NCAA’s.   Thanks for proving my point @jross!

So says you.

I can make bad comparisons too!  Biden is greater than 32 other presidents, which at NCAA's means he is in first place.

But you are missing it.

The language associated was around making Biden seem Great and Trump seem Lame.

The survey was "greatest!"

Everyone picked it up.  Biden and Greatest in same sentence.

[WrestlingRasta]

The whole problem with the mouse topic is that the exact number of dollars spent on transgender mice is…..wait for it….0.  That’s right, exactly ZERO dollars on transgender mice. 
 

Chin wiping parrots don’t want truth, they want warm fuzzies. And they’ll take it hook line and sinker, every time. 

[jross]

11. ‘Biden’s the most impressive president of my lifetime’

• https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/feb/22/mehdi-hasan-interview-trump-biden-fox-news-msnbc

12. 'Democrats: Stop Shopping Around. Biden Is Our Guy—and the Best President of My Lifetime'

• https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-stop-shopping-around-biden-our-guy-best-president-our-lifetime-opinion-1790604

13. 'For me he is the best since LBJ but Jimmy Carter prolly had better intentions than him'

• https://www.reddit.com/r/SocialDemocracy/comments/168pyui/joe_biden_is_the_best_us_president_since/

14. 'The Climate Case for Joe Biden as the Best President in Our Lifetimes'

• https://medium.com/@croselund/best-damn-president-in-my-lifetime-a33d58ac5209

15. 'Joe Biden is the Best President of My Lifetime And Democrats, including Iowa's 3rd District Candidate Lanon Baccam, need to double down on it.'

• https://rleonard.substack.com/p/joe-biden-is-the-best-president-of

16. 'President Biden has been the best president for Indian Country in my lifetime. He has shown us what true allyship looks like'

• https://www.instagram.com/secdebhaaland/p/DDYEtfXKppG/

 

It keeps going in search results...

• https://www.google.com/search?q=Biden+is+hands+down+the+greatest+president+of+my+lifetime

 

17. '7 Sensational Arguments For Why Joe Biden Is One Of The Best Presidents in US History'

• https://www.democratsabroad.org/biden_one_of_best_us_presidents

 

Which is data point after data point of disagreeable propaganda that you don't notice unless you objectively recognized that Biden was toast even before he was elected.

[1032004]

20 minutes ago, jross said:

So says you.

I can make bad comparisons too!  Biden is greater than 32 other presidents, which at NCAA's means he is in first place.

But you are missing it.

The language associated was around making Biden seem Great and Trump seem Lame.

The survey was "greatest!"

Everyone picked it up.  Biden and Greatest in same sentence.

My comparison wasn’t bad.

14 / 46 presidents = 0.3

0.3 x 77 wrestling teams = 23rd

So the 14th “greatest” president is comparable to the 23rd “greatest” wrestler in the NCAA

[jross]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

My comparison wasn’t bad.

14 / 46 presidents = 0.3

0.3 x 77 wrestling teams = 23rd

So the 14th “greatest” president is comparable to the 23rd “greatest” wrestler in the NCAA

THE POINT IS THE LANGUAGE ASSOCIATION of 'Biden to Great' and 'Trump to Worst'.

Get it?

[1032004]

7 minutes ago, jross said:

THE POINT IS THE LANGUAGE ASSOCIATION of 'Biden to Great' and 'Trump to Worst'.

Get it?

Well I never argued that the left thinks Trump is the worst, that’s true.  But I don’t think many think Biden is the best.  Even the links you just posted added the qualifier of “in my lifetime,” with several even adding further qualifiers than that.  The only of those links that called him one of the best ever was the blog post from “Bobby from the Bronx” that was already shared

[jross]

9 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

The whole problem with the mouse topic is that the exact number of dollars spent on transgender mice is…..wait for it….0.  That’s right, exactly ZERO dollars on transgender mice. 
 

Chin wiping parrots don’t want truth, they want warm fuzzies. And they’ll take it hook line and sinker, every time. 

Semantics.  It's not research on 'transgender mice.'  It is research on the affects of giving male hormones to female mice in support of human transgender care.

$2.5M to study how testosterone impacts ovarian function in female mice.  Review the history of payouts 

https://reporter.nih.gov/project-details/10619517

 

Reproductive Consequences of Steroid Hormone Administration

Recent data estimates 1.4 million transgender adults and 150,000 transgender adolescents live in the United States, many of whom are on cross-sex hormone therapy with estradiol or testosterone (T)...

Project started May 1, 2019 with end date of April 2025.  Payouts of $500K annual over multiple years...

The study focused on administering steroid hormones like testosterone to female mice and observing the effects on their reproductive systems. This aligns with efforts to model the effects of gender-affirming hormone therapy (GAHT), such as testosterone use in transgender men, to understand potential impacts on fertility... 

[jross]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Well I never argued that the left thinks Trump is the worst, that’s true.  But I don’t think many think Biden is the best.  Even the links you just posted added the qualifier of “in my lifetime,” with several even adding further qualifiers than that.  The only of those links that called him one of the best ever was the blog post from “Bobby from the Bronx” that was already shared

You are smarter than this.

I showed how to admit when one is wrong just today in a post to Fishbane.

But you...

My goodness.

We're telling you that Biden's Great Presidency was pushed as a narrative on 'us.'  Because that was what we 'felt' when reading newlines and listening to media.

Yea there were criticisms...

You can't be more stubbornly wrong to dismiss what we're saying here and backing up with data.

You are acting like a .... democrat.  Not the moderate kind.

[jross]

19 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

My comparison wasn’t bad.

14 / 46 presidents = 0.3

0.3 x 77 wrestling teams = 23rd

So the 14th “greatest” president is comparable to the 23rd “greatest” wrestler in the NCAA

Alright, let’s roll with the wrestling comp.

Ronald Reagan is Kyle Dake on the political mat. Dake swept four NCAA titles.  Reagan swept 49 states in the election.  Biden is ranked ahead of Regan... so better than Dake?

Imagine the top 46 wrestlers from all NCAA history, every weight, every era. Biden at 14th isn’t topping Sanderson, but he’s in the mix... think Aaron Brooks or Ed Banach (3 titles, 73 pins).  One of the greatest!

There are 33 qualifiers at the NCAAs.  Biden is better than 32 other presidents.  Being better than 32 others at the NCAA means you stand on top of the podium.

[1032004]

19 minutes ago, jross said:

You are smarter than this.

I showed how to admit when one is wrong just today in a post to Fishbane.

But you...

My goodness.

We're telling you that Biden's Great Presidency was pushed as a narrative on 'us.'  Because that was what we 'felt' when reading newlines and listening to media.

Yea there were criticisms...

You can't be more stubbornly wrong to dismiss what we're saying here and backing up with data.

You are acting like a .... democrat.  Not the moderate kind.

Your “data” consists of Reddit posts, x posts from people with only a couple thousand followers, and blogs from people no one has ever heard of.

Yes, I’m sure you could find a few hundred anonymous x users claiming Biden is one of the best ever, but that was not a common opinion among the left (of which I am not a part of).  The fact that the same random blog post was shared twice in this same thread is evidence of that - clearly that must be one of the top google results…

[jross]

15 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Your “data” consists of Reddit posts, x posts from people with only a couple thousand followers, and blogs from people no one has ever heard of.

Yes, I’m sure you could find a few hundred anonymous x users claiming Biden is one of the best ever, but that was not a common opinion among the left (of which I am not a part of).  The fact that the same random blog post was shared twice in this same thread is evidence of that - clearly that must be one of the top google results…

The first 10 laid the ground work for Words are Tyranny.  It shows how a biased survey was used as a foundation for MSM to associate Biden with Greatness.  The next set shows one small sampling of how this is directly manifested across social media.  I shouldn't need to post 1000 examples of people referring to Biden as great in the MSM and Social media to prove what some of already know.

You are not following logic... and that's a strong signal of a certain party favor...

[1032004]

3 minutes ago, jross said:

The first 10 laid the ground work for Words are Tyranny.  It shows how a biased survey was used as a foundation for MSM to associate Biden with Greatness.  The next set shows one small sampling of how this is directly manifested across social media.  I shouldn't need to post 1000 examples of people referring to Biden as great in the MSM and Social media to prove what some of already know.

You are not following logic... and that's a strong signal of a certain party favor...

Well now you’re moving the goalposts.  The issue I took was with the assertion that many people actually thought he was one of the “greatest ever” (technically OP said THE greatest ever, but I won’t nitpick that).  If the line is now simply “great,” then yes now you’re moving closer to an opinion that a majority of Democrats held.  

[jross]

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Well now you’re moving the goalposts.  The issue I took was with the assertion that many people actually thought he was one of the “greatest ever” (technically OP said THE greatest ever, but I won’t nitpick that).  If the line is now simply “great,” then yes now you’re moving closer to an opinion that a majority of Democrats held.  

I stand by the claim that Biden was claimed as one of the greatest ever, and this topic has been proven.

[VakAttack]

9 minutes ago, jross said:

The first 10 laid the ground work for Words are Tyranny.  It shows how a biased survey was used as a foundation for MSM to associate Biden with Greatness.  The next set shows one small sampling of how this is directly manifested across social media.  I shouldn't need to post 1000 examples of people referring to Biden as great in the MSM and Social media to prove what some of already know.

You are not following logic... and that's a strong signal of a certain party favor...

This is uproariously funny goalpost shifting.  And as always, the accusation is actually an admission, since the guy presently in the White House is constantly insinuating that he is the greatest president of all time, and the actual party leaders outside of Trump are willing to kiss his ass in public.  Comparisons to Lincoln and Washington by actual sitting elected officials vs. random ass blog posts or thought pieces.

[VakAttack]

Just now, jross said:

I stand by the claim that Biden was claimed as one of the greatest ever, and this topic has been proven.

No, it wasn't.  You just said it a unch o times and then claimed that people "put words near each other" so it's basically the same thing.

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, jross said:

THE POINT IS THE LANGUAGE ASSOCIATION of 'Biden to Great' and 'Trump to Worst'.

Get it?

he never will

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, jross said:

Semantics.  It's not research on 'transgender mice.'  It is research on the affects of giving male hormones to female mice in support of human transgender care.

$2.5M to study how testosterone impacts ovarian function in female mice.  Review the history of payouts 

https://reporter.nih.gov/project-details/10619517

 

Reproductive Consequences of Steroid Hormone Administration

Recent data estimates 1.4 million transgender adults and 150,000 transgender adolescents live in the United States, many of whom are on cross-sex hormone therapy with estradiol or testosterone (T)...

Project started May 1, 2019 with end date of April 2025.  Payouts of $500K annual over multiple years...

The study focused on administering steroid hormones like testosterone to female mice and observing the effects on their reproductive systems. This aligns with efforts to model the effects of gender-affirming hormone therapy (GAHT), such as testosterone use in transgender men, to understand potential impacts on fertility... 

he is great at song and dance... and never saying anything.

so we will think he voted for trump

[jross]

5 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

This is uproariously funny goalpost shifting.  And as always, the accusation is actually an admission, since the guy presently in the White House is constantly insinuating that he is the greatest president of all time, and the actual party leaders outside of Trump are willing to kiss his ass in public.  Comparisons to Lincoln and Washington by actual sitting elected officials vs. random ass blog posts or thought pieces.

Trump messed up his Covid response in the first term.  And he is an asshole.  Funny.  But an asshole.  Can't be THE greatest.

He can be one of the greatest depending on his second term execution.

Starting out on fire.

Edited Thursday at 11:22 PM by jross

[Scouts Honor]

35 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Your “data” consists of Reddit posts, x posts from people with only a couple thousand followers, and blogs from people no one has ever heard of.

Yes, I’m sure you could find a few hundred anonymous x users claiming Biden is one of the best ever, but that was not a common opinion among the left (of which I am not a part of).  The fact that the same random blog post was shared twice in this same thread is evidence of that - clearly that must be one of the top google results…

again with the not liking the data

'um, this didn't come from my preapproved sources so they must not be real'

oh wait, i think i found the non existent federal workers...

 

the posts you see, should help you see, that the narative was pushed... whether it was by your special friends or not 

[Scouts Honor]

6 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

This is uproariously funny goalpost shifting.  And as always, the accusation is actually an admission, since the guy presently in the White House is constantly insinuating that he is the greatest president of all time, and the actual party leaders outside of Trump are willing to kiss his ass in public.  Comparisons to Lincoln and Washington by actual sitting elected officials vs. random ass blog posts or thought pieces.

who is kissing trumps ass... he isn't even close... 

lets wait four years to see about the top ten

but the claim i made was that the narative was biden was the greatest

and you can dismiss that all you want.. but it won't make it that the media tried to do it 

[1032004]

12 minutes ago, jross said:

I stand by the claim that Biden was claimed as one of the greatest ever

By anyone?  Yes.  “Proclaimed over and over”? No.

Edited Thursday at 11:29 PM by 1032004

[Scouts Honor]

lol

yet another memory hole

[1032004]

I do also find it interesting that no one else called out the blatant lie in the x post in the OP…

[jross]

We have a problem with loserthink and midwit behavior.  Moderately smart people overcomplicate simple truths and nitpick.

If I say "Asians are good at math," the midwit says...

• "Well, it depends on what you mean by 'Asians?'  Are we talking East Asians, South Asians, or Southeast Asians? Do you mean arithmetic, calculus, or theoretical math?"

The midwit overthinks and fixates on semantics...

• "Actually, not all Asians are good at math.  My friend from South Korea failed algebra..."

When we should focus on whether the larger pattern is true and why that is.

AND this is what's happening in this conversation...

• "THE greatest vs ONE OF the greatest vs Great."

 

I do this too... calling it to those doing it here.