Mike Parrish Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, Bigbrog said: Oh...so that makes it ok... So when do Trump and Pence voluntarily open up their properties to 13 hour searches by DOJ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/18/2023 at 10:08 AM, Mike Parrish said: When you admit your crimes in public. https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/109710457481780381 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/109710600348047764 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/109711024871923898 Yes, all those empty keepsake folders that he immediately needed returned to him by the special master because they were causing him irreparable harm by their absence. LOL..."why aren't they raiding his house." The DOJ negotiated for Months. Trump claimed he could declassify a document just by thinking it! The FBI went into Mar-a-Lago dressed up as employees in an attempt to minimize their exposure. Trump announced it. He wanted to play the victim. Biden on the other hand admitted his mistakes, he's not trying to obstruct. It's a false equivalency, but of course, nobody has ever been treated as badly as Trump! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 So when do Trump and Pence voluntarily open up their properties to 13 hour searches by DOJ?When Obama does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 11 hours ago, Mike Parrish said: So when do Trump and Pence voluntarily open up their properties to 13 hour searches by DOJ? Trump was openly dealing with the National archives. They visited his Florida home and told him to put a lock on the door to be compliant. He did so then was raided. This was done to interfere with the mid terms, all while they hid the knowledge of the Biden crimes until after the election. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 13 hours ago, Mike Parrish said: So when do Trump and Pence voluntarily open up their properties to 13 hour searches by DOJ? You want to deflect from what is actually the problem by playing semantics to fit your political narrative of all "R's" are bad and all "D's" are good b.s. Trump AND Biden should be held accountable for having top secret documents when they shouldn't have had them...period. Quite trying to make is sound like Trumps was SOOOO much worse...they both are bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 hours ago, El Luchador said: Trump was openly dealing with the National archives. They visited his Florida home and told him to put a lock on the door to be compliant. He did so then was raided. This was done to interfere with the mid terms, all while they hid the knowledge of the Biden crimes until after the election. lol, no. They asked him to return the documents and he refused. They got a search warrant approved by a judge and executed the search. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 35 minutes ago, Bigbrog said: You want to deflect from what is actually the problem by playing semantics to fit your political narrative of all "R's" are bad and all "D's" are good b.s. Trump AND Biden should be held accountable for having top secret documents when they shouldn't have had them...period. Quite trying to make is sound like Trumps was SOOOO much worse...they both are bad! Biden's cooperated. Trump and Pence have not. That's the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Quote The latest discovery, and fourth overall, involves a total of six documents. The material was located among many thousands of pages of documents, some of which date back to Biden's time in the U.S. Senate. That is to say, some of the material is at least 14 years old, and its ongoing presence in the President's residence must surely be accidental. Beyond this, nothing else was made public about the documents, including information the specific contents or the level of classification. At this point, there are many parallels between the Biden documents and the Trump documents. To wit: Both men had materials, at their private residences, that they were not supposed to have. Both men failed to turn over everything as soon as the above fact was discovered. Both men were eventually subject to an FBI search, so that the government could get to the bottom of the matter. If someone was not paying close attention, or if someone had motive to draw an equivalence between the two situations, it would be easy to equate Biden's actions with Trump's actions. However, as we have pointed out many times, the key to the whole matter is not having the documents, per se. Accidents happen with classified material. In fact, they happen all the time, because there is so much classified stuff, and so many people have access to it. As we've noted, there are 1.3 million people with security clearances in the U.S. If just one in a thousand of them screwed up over the course of a year, and those screw-ups were criminal, then the government would be prosecuting 3.5 people every day. As if the federal courts are not already backlogged enough. And so, things don't become criminal until there is either gross negligence, or there is clear intent to commit an illegal act, like sell secrets to a foreign power or obstruct the government in its efforts to regain its property. That very key dimension is where the Biden and Trump situations remain night-and-day different. Biden has invariably self-reported when documents were found, and the search that led to the newest discovery was conducted with his consent. Trump tried to hide his document-stealing, even when he was called out on it by the National Archives, and the search of Mar-a-Lago was only possible at the business end of a federal warrant. That said, just because the Trump situation is very clearly much more problematic than the Biden situation doesn't mean that the White House will be able to persuade the American people that is the case, especially with the Fox propaganda mill running 24/7. It also further complicates the decisions that AG Merrick Garland will, one day, have to make. It shouldn't complicate those decisions, as the law is what it is, but it will complicate them, because the AG is clearly concerned about appearances. And so, the odds that Biden's errors become a Get Out of Jail Free card for Trump continue to get better for the former president. (Z) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 We’ll see who’s done more damage soon enough. Maybe they can share a jail cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, headshuck said: We’ll see who’s done more damage soon enough. Maybe they can share a jail cell. Time for a sig bet? Biden doesn't get charged. Trump does. 6 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Mike Parrish said: lol, no. They asked him to return the documents and he refused. They got a search warrant approved by a judge and executed the search. The end. You do realize he as president has the legal authority to declassified and keep documents. There is legal precedence on this. Trump did work with the archives and did as they requested, so lol yes. Biden has no legal standing. Trump does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Mike Parrish said: Time for a sig bet? Biden doesn't get charged. Trump does. 6 months? If you're look for Justice in a corrupt system controlled by the corrupt you may be a fool. We already know there are 2 obvious system of justice in this fully weaponized government. They will continue to lie and project, and the failing media will parrot the DNC talking points. It is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, El Luchador said: You do realize he as president has the legal authority to declassified and keep documents. Former presidents can't, however. Especially with magic mind power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 hours ago, El Luchador said: You do realize he as president has the legal authority to declassified and keep documents. There is legal precedence on this. Trump did work with the archives and did as they requested, so lol yes. Biden has no legal standing. Trump does. You do realize that there's a required process to declassify documents that requires paperwork to complete that has not been show to exist, right? You can't declassify things just by thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 hours ago, El Luchador said: If you're look for Justice in a corrupt system controlled by the corrupt you may be a fool. We already know there are 2 obvious system of justice in this fully weaponized government. They will continue to lie and project, and the failing media will parrot the DNC talking points. It is nothing new. So, is it a sig bet then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said: You do realize that there's a required process to declassify documents that requires paperwork to complete that has not been show to exist, right? You can't declassify things just by thinking about it. No that is not true. like I said this is already settled law back when Clinton went through this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said: So, is it a sig bet then? Why would I really on the corrupt for Justice? I would never bet on this administration doing the right or legal thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, El Luchador said: No that is not true. like I said this is already settled law back when Clinton went through this. That's flatly not true. Post your evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, El Luchador said: Why would I really on the corrupt for Justice? I would never bet on this administration doing the right or legal thing. *chicken noises* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) https://www.politicalflare.com/2023/01/jack-smith-reportedly-believes-trumps-motive-for-taking-classified-docs-involves-russia/ Quote Trump, who will go down in history as the only U.S. president to be impeached twice, tried to declassify many of the records in question before he left office after issuing a January 19, 2021 memo titled “Declassification of Certain Materials Related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation.” While Trump ordered that the documents be “declassified to the maximum extent possible,” it isn’t known if this directive was followed. Waas reports that the FBI and DOJ “slow-walked the declassification order Edited January 23, 2023 by Mike Parrish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said: That's flatly not true. Post your evidence. You got Google, Slick Willie the rapist already fought this battle, Hillary also went through this without consequences, and she complied by having everyone destroy their phone. She intentionally created a communication system to hide from government oversight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, El Luchador said: You got Google, Slick Willie the rapist already fought this battle, Hillary also went through this without consequences, and she complied by having everyone destroy their phone. She intentionally created a communication system to hide from government oversight. So, you admit you have no evidence to support your position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Mike Parrish said: https://www.politicalflare.com/2023/01/jack-smith-reportedly-believes-trumps-motive-for-taking-classified-docs-involves-russia/ A opinion piece? You want to go tit for tat on political hackery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 You made the assertion that Trump declassified the documents found at Mar-a-Lago. The burden of proof is on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Mike Parrish said: So, you admit you have no evidence to support your position. Literally it's common knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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