RBY headbutt

[Mr. PeanutButter]

Interesting strategy. I'm super biased so can someone more reasonable explain how this is a clean and valid technique?

If you'd like more context, you can watch the full sequence here. Should start at 6:33

[1032004]

Are you talking about him “head butting” Lee’s shoulder?

[Pinnacle]

A 2 second video that does not show what you claim and it's on a loop? Is this some kind of a joke? 

Edited February 8 by Pinnacle

[billyhoyle]

Because he's level changing.  Nobody complained about it during the match. 

[Fred]

I think “someone more reasonable” excludes PSU fans here

Edited February 10 by Fred

[Mr. PeanutButter]

On 2/8/2025 at 6:31 AM, 1032004 said:

Are you talking about him “head butting” Lee’s shoulder?

 

On 2/8/2025 at 8:39 AM, Pinnacle said:

A 2 second video that does not show what you claim and it's on a loop? Is this some kind of a joke? 

Call it whatever you want but the way I see it, RBY's head makes contact with Lee's face twice. Call it a facebash if you will. The first shot hits Lee in the chin, the 2nd grazes the jaw but primarily hits the shoulder. I don't recall anyone doing anything remotely similar in the past which is why I brought it up. 

 

5 hours ago, billyhoyle said:

Because he's level changing.  Nobody complained about it during the match. 

RBY's knees don't change position much. Looks like he is slightly lowering his torso angle and ramming his head into Lee's face. So what exactly is the purpose of this "level change" because it doesn't look like an attempt at a leg

 

 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

20 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

 

Call it whatever you want but the way I see it, RBY's head makes contact with Lee's face twice. Call it a facebash if you will. The first shot hits Lee in the chin, the 2nd grazes the jaw but primarily hits the shoulder. I don't recall anyone doing anything remotely similar in the past which is why I brought it up. 

Berger vs Zain 2023 WTT/Final X?

[Mr. PeanutButter]

23 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Berger vs Zain 2023 WTT/Final X?

well yeah. I was going to bring that up but that looked waaaaaaaay more egregious and blatantly intended to harm Zain. I don't think RBY was trying to cause harm here the way Berger obviously was. I think he may have been trying get Lee off balance - and that strategy worked because moments later he got to his best attack of the match

[1032004]

1 hour ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

 

Call it whatever you want but the way I see it, RBY's head makes contact with Lee's face twice. Call it a facebash if you will. The first shot hits Lee in the chin, the 2nd grazes the jaw but primarily hits the shoulder. I don't recall anyone doing anything remotely similar in the past which is why I brought it up. 

 

RBY's knees don't change position much. Looks like he is slightly lowering his torso angle and ramming his head into Lee's face. So what exactly is the purpose of this "level change" because it doesn't look like an attempt at a leg

 

 

I wouldn’t call the first one a headbutt, looks like it more touches Lee’s chest. And the second one his shoulder

[Gene Mills Fan]

looks like hard wrestling to me. I didn't know Kyrie Irving was such a good wrestler

[Mr. PeanutButter]

49 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I wouldn’t call the first one a headbutt, looks like it more touches Lee’s chest. And the second one his shoulder

yeah after watching the sequence in half speed this looks like a nothing burger

[SocraTease]

Here's the match: 

 

[scourge165]

On 2/10/2025 at 10:41 AM, 1032004 said:

I wouldn’t call the first one a headbutt, looks like it more touches Lee’s chest. And the second one his shoulder

I thought it just looked like every last 30 second sprint when you're down in a match and trying to create some action. 

Head, hands and hips...

You're going to get hit in the head, but this didn't seem any different than most other matches I've seen.