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1 hour ago, scourge165 said:

Yeah..but it's not a stock, it's a kid. 

 

By the way, if you are shorting stocks, COST is a GREAT stock to short. Super expensive, like a 60PE, small margins that will be under more pressure with tariffs and enormous growth this year. 

 

Anyway, don't like shorting...kids. He's been playing Football and Wrestling. Get him in a College Strength and conditioning program...that's a BIG part of the battle. Also, IIRC, he hurt it, missed half the season and he's been back fine since then.

Another stellar personality trait of this board, taking colloquialisms and interpreting them literally.  Jtfc.

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Dreshaun is no doubt a stud but I'm afraid he's a tweener similar to Kueter. Plus to add to it, he's a Sebolt guy who has already had a major shoulder injury.

As an Iowa fan, I will be plenty happy losing Ross if it means we get a commitment from Mocco.

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2 hours ago, Jamie_Taco said:

Dreshaun is no doubt a stud but I'm afraid he's a tweener similar to Kueter. Plus to add to it, he's a Sebolt guy who has already had a major shoulder injury.

As an Iowa fan, I will be plenty happy losing Ross if it means we get a commitment from Mocco.

I think you guys have limited imaginations!

He's a Jr A 17-year-old who is cutting to Wrestle 215. We're not talking about a 195 moving up like Mirasola.

Then you look at his build? I wouldn't be surprised if he's 6'5 by the time he steps on the mat for Okie State(he looks 6'4-6'5 right now to my eye). And you look at his build...Wrestling other 215s, he looks like he's awkwardly bent over because he's got that big thick back and he just uncoils with those long arms. Kid looks like he can tie his shoes without bending over. THAT is going to make his offense a LOT easier to get to without nearly as much risk at the next level.

He's longer than Keuter and thicker through the chest/back and Ben Keuter, who...lets be clear, is a blue-blue chip recruit who is simply NOT dominant yet as a guy who has only Wrestled 1 full year of College Wrestling, but is still competitive. So I think he's bigger, I think he's got more room to grow and I think you're underselling what Ben Keuter is. 

But I think Ross is bigger, longer, he's got room to add a lot more weight. 

Most importantly, the way he coils up and explodes, it's just too easy. And he's not diving in on a head inside shot and working to finish, he's finishing it cleanly like Jordan Burroughs or he's out of there. 

 

 

The shoulder injury? He's going to a coach who is a pretty good point of reference on how to rehab a shoulder injury(though...I suspect he'll be beyond that well before he gets to Stillwater. And shoulder rehab can actually make you stronger, make the supporting muscles stronger. My shoulder was MUCH stronger 12 months after reconstructive surgery than it was just prior when it was slipping in and out(no silly lethal gun having to pop it back in, but you can feel it). 

 

Go back and look at Greg Kerkvliet at the same age. He wasn't more physically imposing than Ross and I don't think he's near the athlete...and he's been one helluva College Wrestler. This kid moves different than any HWT we've seen in a while. Maybe since McMullen from Northwestern who wrestled at Wyoming Seminary years back, but if memory serves, he was not nearly as long and didn't have the same frame. 

 

I'm a big Baseball fan. I like following the prospects as much as anyone. You look at a 16/17 year old pitcher from the DR or a HS Jr/SR and the key word is 'projection.' How much...projection do they have left. 

 

When Stephen Mocco got to College, he had very little. He was great as a Freshmen, great as a Sr, but he didn't improve much(there was only so much he could). 


I'd argue Ross has an enormous amount of projection available. I think you're going to get a 6'4-6'5 250-260 pound HWT with RARE quickness. 

 

Now...if you're a Michael Mocco fan, well...yeah, no kidding. You don't HAVE to pick PJ Duke or Marcus Blaze just yet, but here again, I'd say Ross has more room to grow and improve than Mocco, though, to be fair, I think he's got room to grow as well. 

 

But...I'll plant my Flag on Deshaun Ross and if he stays healthy...*and NOT because he's had some minor injuries in HS, that's...the norm these days. But just because if he is all in on Wrestling, I think he could be something nearly unprecedented. Stephen Neal-ish? 

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