The plan for Ferrari in Iowa

[666]

6 hours ago, 1032004 said:

I think it will be Plott also, but I wouldn’t call the Minnesota dual a gimme for them.  Wrestlestat has it 18-12 but I think a couple Iowa guys could be on upset watch.

Of course wrestlestat has them losing to OSU 17-15 due to bonus, and I agree with who they’re projecting to win and I feel like almost all weights have a fairly heavy favorite.  So winning 184 would likely give Iowa the dual.  I also think Tom cares more about beating them.

That's a surprise. I thought Iowa would be a big favorite against OSU. Guess I need to find the OSU/Iowa prediction thread...

[1032004]

23 minutes ago, 666 said:

That's a surprise. I thought Iowa would be a big favorite against OSU. Guess I need to find the OSU/Iowa prediction thread...

https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/dual/34/iowa/57/oklahoma-state
 

I think I’d agree with these winners, maybe one less bonus point for OSU for a 1 point win

Spratley Dec Cruz 3-0 OSU

Ayala Dec Wittcraft/Hughes 3-3

Jamison Dec Block 6-3 OSU (wrestlestat has Jamison with a major which could happen)

Parco Dec Young 6-6 (Iowa could have a shot for bonus here)

Teemer Dec Fish 9-6 Iowa (Iowa could get bonus if Fish tries something stupid)

Caliendo Dec Amine 12-6

Hamiti Dec Kennedy 12-9 (some may pick bonus here but they wrestled twice in 2023 and Hamiti won 9-6 and 4-3)

Plott Dec Arnold 12-12

Buchanan Dec Surber 15-12 Iowa

Hendrickson maj Kueter 16-15 OSU

 

I feel like the only match that wouldn’t be considered a pretty significant upset if the other guy won is 165, as Caliendo’s two wins over Amine have been in SV.  Could come down to bonus points

 

 

[dragit]

On 2/1/2025 at 12:09 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

Ferrari just had a bad plan to start the match. He went to the edge, well past the edge, in the hopes of not giving Starocci room for a TD while giving himself room to counter any shot.

I put it down to too much respect for Starocci.

He grew into that match. If he had realized sooner he could compete with Starocci, so that he does not get the well earned stalls, then perhaps he can win it. No guarantee, but perhaps. He certainly looked strong enough, fast enough, and flexible enough.

We still do not know if he can get through Starocci's elite defense. And maybe if he took early shots he would have gotten countered. But maybe not.

Unfortunately for him there does not look like there will ever be a rematch to find out.

While I agree with everything in here, based on Starocci's results in his career against terrific elite opponents, through Keckheisen (it happened regardless of whether official), I don't see a rematch with Ferrari making any difference. (Does anyone think Ferrari is better than Keckheisen right now?)

[Pinnacle]

31 minutes ago, dragit said:

While I agree with everything in here, based on Starocci's results in his career against terrific elite opponents, through Keckheisen (it happened regardless of whether official), I don't see a rematch with Ferrari making any difference. (Does anyone think Ferrari is better than Keckheisen right now?)

Keckeisen is better than Ferrari imo. 

[ionel]

1 minute ago, Pinnacle said:

Keckeisen is better than Ferrari imo. 

... much!

[Pinnacle]

2 hours ago, ionel said:

... much!

Agree. Their two matches with Starocci tell the difference.

Keckeisen got to a legitimate shot that had a chance at being finished when he wrestled Carter. He didn't keep going to a knee or backing up out of bounds. Carter could only get 28 seconds of RT on him.

Ferrari took a couple of shots just to get to the leg. Shots straight on with no real attempt to get to the corner and finish. Each one stuffed completely. Mostly he backed up to the edge or went to a knee. He needed the edge or the clock to not get scored upon himself. He gave up RT because he isn't there yet from bottom. 

Keckeisen would win a match between them imo.

Edited February 2 by Pinnacle

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[AgaveMaria]

On 2/1/2025 at 7:14 AM, Wrestleknownothing said:

These matches do count. He is not undefeated.

Did not realize that - tho it makes sense when looking more closely.

Still think that next season is when he will "officially" start. Weight will clear out a bit & he has the experience of going aginst some very good competition from this year.