1032004 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Terrible story. Members of US Figure Skating believed to be among the victims. Of course you already have idiots on social media claiming it was intentional.
Tripnsweep Posted January 30 Posted January 30 It's because of DEI policies or else this never would have happened. 1
Bigbrog Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 2:52 PM, Tripnsweep said: It's because of DEI policies or else this never would have happened. Expand It's because you are scum for bringing politics into a tragedy...again!! 2 1
red viking Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Where's the accountability and leadership for this administration. Pathetic. Total incompetence.
1032004 Posted January 30 Author Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 3:42 PM, Bigbrog said: It's because you are scum for bringing politics into a tragedy...again!! Expand Check out any thread on this on x. Probably about 20% of the replies are saying it was intentional or because of a DEI hire
Bigbrog Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 3:55 PM, red viking said: Where's the accountability and leadership for this administration. Pathetic. Total incompetence. Expand What in the hell are you talking about??
Bigbrog Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 4:00 PM, 1032004 said: Check out any thread on this on x. Probably about 20% of the replies are saying it was intentional or because of a DEI hire Expand It is completely ridiculous now isn't it??
1032004 Posted January 30 Author Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 4:01 PM, Bigbrog said: It is completely ridiculous now isn't it?? Expand What is?
Paul158 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 It was a training flight for the military helicopter. In one of the busiest flight areas in America you are having training flights at night. The say there are a large number of helicopters flights through that area all day and night. This does not sound like a smart thing to be doing.
Bigbrog Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 4:02 PM, 1032004 said: What is? Expand That people would infuse political B.S. into a tragedy
mspart Posted January 30 Posted January 30 OK, here is the deal. What the heck is a military helicopter doing flying in an approach path of a commercial airport? I've heard this was a normal training flight. My guess is that the military training flights will change routes because of this. and they never should be flying at the altitude of commercial aircraft approaching to land. The CRJ was on its glidepath to land. The military helicopter flew right into that glidepath. These are demarcated areas of space on approach to an airport. Every airport has them. That helicopter should never have been around aircraft coming in for landing, or holding to land etc. They were warned by the tower. Very sad, but hopefully these training flights will go somewhere else. mspart 1
Paul158 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) On 1/30/2025 at 4:33 PM, mspart said: OK, here is the deal. What the heck is a military helicopter doing flying in an approach path of a commercial airport? I've heard this was a normal training flight. My guess is that the military training flights will change routes because of this. and they never should be flying at the altitude of commercial aircraft approaching to land. The CRJ was on its glidepath to land. The military helicopter flew right into that glidepath. These are demarcated areas of space on approach to an airport. Every airport has them. That helicopter should never have been around aircraft coming in for landing, or holding to land etc. They were warned by the tower. Very sad, but hopefully these training flights will go somewhere else. mspart Expand This is so sad. Just general observers can tell right away this was very poor practice of flying through flight paths of this airport. If you have to fly through the area you must be at 150 feet of altitude or less. You probably need to be out another mile from the airport or more to prevent this from happening. Just heard that the max ceiling height for flight in that area is 100 feet. i think they were at 500 feet. Why???? Edited January 30 by Paul158 missed a word
red viking Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) The commander in chief needs to be accountable. This involved a military helicopter, after all. Edited January 30 by red viking
Paul158 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 5:10 PM, red viking said: The commander in chief needs to be accountable. This involved a military helicopter, after all. Expand Can you explain why? It was a training flight for the helicopter. Max ceiling height for flight was 100 feet in that area. Helicopter was at 500 feet.
1032004 Posted January 30 Author Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 4:30 PM, Bigbrog said: That people would infuse political B.S. into a tragedy Expand Agree. But @Tripnsweep was criticizing those that did that, and you called him scum.
red viking Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 5:15 PM, Paul158 said: Can you explain why? It was a training flight for the helicopter. Max ceiling height for flight was 100 feet in that area. Helicopter was at 500 feet. Expand Wow. Even Trump admits that there's at least some blame on the helicopter: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/01/30/trump-blames-army-helicopter-dc-crash/78051726007/ Meanwhile, he also blames diversity programs. That's real leadership there.
Paul158 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 6:27 PM, red viking said: Wow. Even Trump admits that there's at least some blame on the helicopter: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/01/30/trump-blames-army-helicopter-dc-crash/78051726007/ Meanwhile, he also blames diversity programs. That's real leadership there. Expand No matter what anyone says. The persons at fault were in the helicopter. Both the Instructing pilot and the trainee knew there was a 100 foot maximum flight ceiling in that area. They were over 500 feet right in the flight path of planes trying to land. 1
Bigbrog Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 6:26 PM, 1032004 said: Agree. But @Tripnsweep was criticizing those that did that, and you called him scum. Expand His first freaking post on the matter mentioned DEI...he offered nothing more than to stir the turd and to take away from the tragedy...it is his and others...as you can see on here...their MO. They spew stupid emotional comments that offer nothing to the conversation nor contain and sort of fact or logic...and quite frankly it takes away from the threads.
Le duke Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 8:29 PM, Bigbrog said: His first freaking post on the matter mentioned DEI...he offered nothing more than to stir the turd and to take away from the tragedy...it is his and others...as you can see on here...their MO. They spew stupid emotional comments that offer nothing to the conversation nor contain and sort of fact or logic...and quite frankly it takes away from the threads.Ironically, the President and SECDEF brought up DEI in their official comments. Are the POTUS and SECDEF scum, too? Let’s see some hypocrisy. Justify their remarks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Bigbrog Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 8:45 PM, Le duke said: Ironically, the President and SECDEF brought up DEI in their official comments. Are the POTUS and SECDEF scum, too? Let’s see some hypocrisy. Justify their remarks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand Why would I justify their remarks...they are stupid remarks...I called Trip scum because he has a history of saying scummy things when there is a tragedy...well all the time really. Nice try Le duke...swing and a miss. If you had been paying attention, I am no Trumper nor think he is the greatest thing since slice bread...far from it..I didn't even vote for him. Do I like some of his policies...absolutely! Do I like ALL of them...absolutely not. Again, I don't blindly hate or love someone just because of the political party they are affiliated with...bet you can't say the same. 1
mspart Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Is there any doubt that Trump's admin will address this and do so with immediacy? That is taking responsibility. The training flight plans were no doubt established long before Trump was inaugurated. Yet you guys are blaming him. My guess is he will make sure military flights do not encroach on established commercial flight paths. And he will do so relatively quickly. mspart 1
red viking Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 9:01 PM, mspart said: Is there any doubt that Trump's admin will address this and do so with immediacy? That is taking responsibility. The training flight plans were no doubt established long before Trump was inaugurated. Yet you guys are blaming him. My guess is he will make sure military flights do not encroach on established commercial flight paths. And he will do so relatively quickly. mspart Expand The right wing hypocrisy never ends. They'll blame a Democratic President at the drop of a dime for ANYTHING that happens during that administration. Inflation at the beginning of Biden term is example #32,478. However, they'll always blame the previous administration if a Republican is in office. Thy hypocrisy stinks to high heaven, as usual.
1032004 Posted January 30 Author Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 9:01 PM, mspart said: Is there any doubt that Trump's admin will address this and do so with immediacy? That is taking responsibility. The training flight plans were no doubt established long before Trump was inaugurated. Yet you guys are blaming him. My guess is he will make sure military flights do not encroach on established commercial flight paths. And he will do so relatively quickly. mspart Expand I think only @red viking is blaming him which I agree is dumb. Others are just calling out that Trump criticized DEI in his remarks. Here is the crew chief of the helicopter btw (RIP) 1
Tripnsweep Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/30/2025 at 8:45 PM, Le duke said: Ironically, the President and SECDEF brought up DEI in their official comments. Are the POTUS and SECDEF scum, too? Let’s see some hypocrisy. Justify their remarks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand There's a reason I blocked him long ago. First and only person on this site.
Le duke Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) On 1/30/2025 at 9:01 PM, mspart said: Is there any doubt that Trump's admin will address this and do so with immediacy? That is taking responsibility. The training flight plans were no doubt established long before Trump was inaugurated. Yet you guys are blaming him. My guess is he will make sure military flights do not encroach on established commercial flight paths. And he will do so relatively quickly. mspart Expand How is he going to do that? This was a gold cap bird. It picks up VIPs from commercial airports and moves them to various locations such as the Pentagon. Or, takes them from the Pentagon, Ft. Meade, Suffolk, etc. to DCA, or other large commercial hubs. It has to go to large commercial airports such as DCA in order to do the job. Edited January 30 by Le duke
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