When we catch the illegal immigrants that are criminals, and we deport them. What keeps them from coming right back?

[Le duke]

So do you think it is ok that any person wanting to come to our country can claim asylum and be let in with no burden of proof needed??

No. Which is why we have immigration hearings like the ones described in the link provided.

(Hint: it says that the burden of proof is on them.)


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[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, Le duke said:

No. Which is why we have immigration hearings like the ones described in the link provided.

(Hint: it says that the burden of proof is on them.)


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What burden of proof was required during the Biden regime?

[Tripnsweep]

57 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Being here illegally.  Is in fact illegal.   It’s almost in the title of it.  

Actually it is not a criminal act. Merely being present without the right documents is a civil offense, akin to a traffic ticket. 

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Actually it is not a criminal act. Merely being present without the right documents is a civil offense, akin to a traffic ticket. 

Whatever man.  

[Le duke]

The language doesn’t make any reference to “government” as the source of their fear being a criteria.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/12/27/2024-30500/clarification-regarding-bars-to-eligibility-during-credible-fear-and-reasonable-fear-review


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We were both partly wrong, OTM:

(II) In cases in which the persecutor is a government or is government-sponsored, it shall be presumed that internal relocation would not be reasonable, unless the Department of Homeland Security establishes by a preponderance of the evidence that, under all the circumstances, it would be reasonable for the applicant to relocate.

(iii) Regardless of whether an applicant has established persecution in the past, in cases in which the persecutor is not the government or a government-sponsored actor, or otherwise is a private actor, there shall be a presumption that internal relocation would be reasonable unless the applicant establishes, by a preponderance of the evidence, that it would be unreasonable to relocate.

“Government” is a criteria, but private actors are NOT excluded.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/8/1208.13


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[Offthemat]

36 minutes ago, Le duke said:

 

The language doesn’t make any reference to “government” as the source of their fear being a criteria.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/12/27/2024-30500/clarification-regarding-bars-to-eligibility-during-credible-fear-and-reasonable-fear-review


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No, but if you are pestered by someone else you are expected to seek aid from your local authorities before seeking asylum.  It’s kinda common knowledge.  

[Le duke]

What burden of proof was required during the Biden regime?

Are you…implying…that it was different?


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[Caveira]

yes.  I am in fact implying the guy (Biden:Harris) who let the most illegal humans into this country in our history.  Relaxed the rules a bit…… yes.  
 

1 minute ago, Le duke said:

 

Are you…implying…that it was different?


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[Le duke]

yes.  I am in fact implying the guy (Biden:Harris) who let the most illegal humans into this country in our history.  Relaxed the rules a bit…… yes.  
 

Since you’re so sure of it, please document any changes to the legal processes for individual asylum applications during the last administration.


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[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Le duke said:

Since you’re so sure of it, please document any changes to the legal processes for individual asylum applications during the last administration.


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You’re a dip shyte if you don’t think he relaxed everything he she could at the boarder.  I won’t waste time googling it.  

[Offthemat]

 

[Tripnsweep]

6 hours ago, Caveira said:

Whatever man.  

The act of being present in the United States in violation of the immigration laws is not, standing alone, a crime. While federal immigration law does criminalize some actions that may be related to undocumented presence in the United States, undocumented presence alone is not a violation of federal criminal law.

[Caveira]

21 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

The act of being present in the United States in violation of the immigration laws is not, standing alone, a crime. While federal immigration law does criminalize some actions that may be related to undocumented presence in the United States, undocumented presence alone is not a violation of federal criminal law.

Crossing the border without going through an official port of entry or without proper authorization (e.g., climbing a fence or walking across the border in an unauthorized area) is illegal under U.S. law.

[Tripnsweep]

12 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Crossing the border without going through an official port of entry or without proper authorization (e.g., climbing a fence or walking across the border in an unauthorized area) is illegal under U.S. law.

Only if they catch you doing it. 

[Caveira]

53 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Only if they catch you doing it. 

Ask the “collaterals”.      They’re arresting real criminal illegal aliens with records that these sanctuary cities are hiding….. and people who illegally crossed the boarder are just handing out there and they are getting deported with these criminals.   You can rabbit hole and split hairs but they’re getting booted all the same.   For……. Illegally being here boss.    See this vid below 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2NYa2wJ/

Edited Saturday at 04:20 AM by Caveira

[Husker_Du]

6 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

Only if they catch you doing it. 

i thought you couldn't get any dumber. but here we are

[Husker_Du]

https://usafacts.org/articles/what-can-the-data-tell-us-about-unauthorized-immigration/

 

[Tripnsweep]

15 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

i thought you couldn't get any dumber. but here we are

I'm amazed you haven't lost an eye trying to feed yourself. But here we are. 

[Tripnsweep]

6 hours ago, Caveira said:

Ask the “collaterals”.      They’re arresting real criminal illegal aliens with records that these sanctuary cities are hiding….. and people who illegally crossed the boarder are just handing out there and they are getting deported with these criminals.   You can rabbit hole and split hairs but they’re getting booted all the same.   For……. Illegally being here boss.    See this vid below 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2NYa2wJ/

Good thing you didn't lose your primary source of information. 

[1032004]

Not really commenting on the topic, but this is hilarious.  I can’t stop laughing whenever I watch it

 

 

 

[Caveira]

On 1/25/2025 at 4:41 AM, Tripnsweep said:

Good thing you didn't lose your primary source of information. 

Good thing you never cite any source of information.   
 

change your name to 1_time_at_band_camp.   So we know how you roll.  

[Caveira]

53 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Not really commenting on the topic, but this is hilarious.  I can’t stop laughing whenever I watch it

 

 

 

A).  Super hilarious af.  Yes.  I watched 4 times.  
 

b).  Our resident lefties.  @red viking or @Tripnsweep or @WrestlingRasta     How come none of them are outraged in the least.  An illegal alien. Convicted of sex crimes.     Not deported.   
 

how is this not crazy town?
 

https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/us-news/tv-host-dr-phil-films-as-ice-targets-migrants-in-chicago/

[WrestlingRasta]

If you think I’m a leftie you haven’t been paying attention.   As I told Husker I’m kinda just an asshole calling out dumb comments.  Just because you and some other chin wipers fit the bill more often than others, has nothing to do with my governing preferences. 

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

If you think I’m a leftie you haven’t been paying attention.   As I told Husker I’m kinda just an asshole calling out dumb comments.  Just because you and some other chin wipers fit the bill more often than others, has nothing to do with my governing preferences. 

No denouncement of a sex offender not deported tho.  So thanks.   Not a lefty I guess.  

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[WrestlingRasta]

37 minutes ago, Caveira said:

No denouncement of a sex offender not deported tho.  So thanks.   Not a lefty I guess.  

Ooof.  You got me.