Which non Penn State wrestlers will be undefeated going into NCAAs?

[ionel]

For a non Jimmy topic who is most likely?  

I'll go with Wyatt Hendrickson.  

[Ohio Elite]

Jesse Mendez

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 12/11/2024 at 4:35 PM, ionel said:

For a non Jimmy topic who is most likely?  

I'll go with Wyatt Hendrickson.  

Expand  

Yes, especially as it appears there is a decent chance that Yonger is done.  Does that make Daniel Gregory (or whomever is 2nd in Big 10) #3 seed or lower?

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Duplicate.

Edited December 11, 2024 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:06 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

Let's start with a list of the non-PSU undefeateds:

Expand  

Vincent Robinson has a loss, which I know you know, and is an honest mistake.  Has this list been updated and you mistakenly attached an old version?

Edited December 11, 2024 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[ionel]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:00 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Yes, especially as it appears there is a decent chance that Yonger is done.  Does that make Daniel Gregory (or whomever is 2nd in Big 10) #3 seed or lower?

Expand  

I think this year's version of Wyatt would destroy The Yonger.  Someone should ask Nick Feldman if he feels different.  Since Wkn is making up especialty new categories can I add an especially new nickname:  The Newton Bomb!  

Edited December 11, 2024 by ionel

[PortaJohn]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:00 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Yes, especially as it appears there is a decent chance that Yonger is done.  Does that make Daniel Gregory (or whomever is 2nd in Big 10) #3 seed or lower?

Expand  

No, Kerk will be the 2 seed if he goes into NCAA's with one loss to Steveson

Edited December 11, 2024 by PortaJohn

[Wrestleknownothing]

Looking at that list I already see one error. I used Intermat rankings and they still have Vincent Robinson listed at 13-0 when he is 13-1

EDIT: I just deleted the list because it is rife with errors. @InterMat Staff is not doing a good job of updating records on its rankings page.

Edited December 11, 2024 by Wrestleknownothing

[ionel]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:12 PM, PortaJohn said:

No, Kerk will be the 2 seed if he goes into NCAA's with one loss to Steveson

Expand  

Not that it matter 2 vs 3 but - nope! 

[PortaJohn]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:14 PM, ionel said:

Not that it matter 2 vs 3 but - nope! 

Expand  

Nope Kerk wont get the 2 seed with one loss to Steveson?  If you believe this then pass me the drugs you're on

Edited December 11, 2024 by PortaJohn

[ionel]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:16 PM, PortaJohn said:

Nope Kerk wont get the 2 seed with one loss to Steveson?  If you believe this then pass me the drugs you're on

Expand  

If Wyatt bonuses his way thru the season (or even just undefeated) he will get the 2 over a 1 loss Kerk.  Again 2v3 doesn't matter.  Pindrickson will (if above) have also won two tough tournaments to Kerk none. 

[PortaJohn]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:22 PM, ionel said:

If Wyatt bonuses his way thru the season (or even just undefeated) he will get the 2 over a 1 loss Kerk.  Again 2v3 doesn't matter.  Pindrickson will (if above) have also won two tough tournaments to Kerk none. 

Expand  

I repeat.  A one loss Kerk (to Steveson in the b10 finals)  will not be seeded behind Henrickson at NCAA's

[Wrestleknownothing]

New list using Wrestlestat:

[ionel]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:25 PM, PortaJohn said:

I repeat.  A one loss Kerk (to Steveson in the b10 finals)  will not be seeded behind Henrickson at NCAA's

Expand  

Name the seeding criteria that puts a 1 loss over an undefeated bonus machine.  Again not that 2v3 matters. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:11 PM, ionel said:

I think this year's version of Wyatt would destroy The Yonger.  Someone should ask Nick Feldman if he feels different.  Since Wkn is making up especially new categories can I add an especially new nickname:  The Newton Bomb!  

Expand  

I prefer the "Mustachioed Buckaroo"

[PortaJohn]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:28 PM, ionel said:

Name the seeding criteria that puts a 1 loss over an undefeated bonus machine.  Again not that 2v3 matters. 

Expand  

Kerk will be ranked 2 all year.    Steveson will be #1.  They wont penalize Kerk for the loss especially considering who he lost to and he's the returning champ.  That's how they seed.  If they tell the public they are seeding using any other criteria then they are lying

Edited December 11, 2024 by PortaJohn

[ionel]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:28 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

New list using Wrestlestat:

Expand  

You clearly missed the most likely in the OP.  This is a long list although long lists are another one of your especialties. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:25 PM, PortaJohn said:

I repeat.  A one loss Kerk (to Steveson in the b10 finals)  will not be seeded behind Henrickson at NCAA's

Expand  

Should he be #2?  Yes.

 

Will he be?  Prob not.  Where was one loss O'Toole seeded last year?

[ionel]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:30 PM, PortaJohn said:

Kerk will be ranked 2 all year.    Steveson will be #1.  They wont penalize Kerk for the loss especially considering who he lost to and he's the returning champ.  That's how they seed.  They tell the public anything else then they are lying

Expand  

Maybe they'll rank him #3 all year just because they know he'll lose to The Gable and Wyatt will not.  

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:30 PM, PortaJohn said:

Kerk will be ranked 2 all year.    Steveson will be #1.  They wont penalize Kerk for the loss especially considering who he lost to and he's the returning champ.  That's how they seed.  They tell the public anything else then they are lying

Expand  

Keegan O'Toole would like a word...

[PortaJohn]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:31 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Should he be #2?  Yes.

 

Will he be?  Prob not.  Where was one loss O'Toole seeded last year?

Expand  

O'Toole was the #1 seed

[mspart]

I didn't see Crookhams name so I'll add it. 

mspart

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:34 PM, PortaJohn said:

O'Toole was the #1 seed

Expand  

Excellent point!

[ionel]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:34 PM, PortaJohn said:

O'Toole was the #1 seed

Expand  

 

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:37 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Excellent point!

Expand  

There were no undefeated wrestlers in that bracket correct?  And the 2 loss wrestler was not seeded over either of the 1 loss wrestlers.

[PortaJohn]

  On 12/11/2024 at 5:41 PM, ionel said:

 

There were no undefeated wrestlers in that bracket correct?  And the 2 loss wrestler was not seeded over either of the 1 loss wrestlers.

Expand  

Last year O'Toole and Mesenbrink were the undefeated wrestlers.  Carr came in with 2 losses & got penalized with the #4 seed because of his loss to Ramirez 

Edited December 11, 2024 by PortaJohn