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7 hours ago, scourge165 said:

First of all, Trump lots manufacturing jobs BEFORE Covid came. We'd lost 43,000 jobs. He had NOT rebuild manufacturing in the US, that's just a lie.

"performative accountability?"

...jumps between different topics...

Your comments about holding past presidents accountable suggest you value fairness and honesty. However, only mentioning that Trump lost 40,000 jobs while Biden gained 800,000, without acknowledging the pandemic, seems intentionally dishonest on your part.  My comment on "performance accountability" is about your behavior in recent posts.

 

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The Fact Check article from Sept 2024 would have sufficedhttps://www.factcheck.org/2024/09/trump-vs-harris-on-u-s-manufacturing/

Manufacturing Jobs Per December Months (bureau of labor statistics) reflect that Trump increased jobs his first two years, after inhering two years of job growth stagnation from Obama.  The third year stagnated under Trump (add 2K jobs), and the fourth year the Pandemic took away the jobs.  Biden gets credit for the Pandemic recovery in 2021 / 2022 stagnation starting again in 2023 (added 26K jobs) and 2024 is back to losing jobs!

 

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*Pandemic Recovery is inclusive of supply chains, reshoring, and legislative acts.

 

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Reference

Recent and historical manufacturing job trends below.

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https://data.bls.gov/

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Posted
8 hours ago, scourge165 said:

...some smart thoughts... but then:

...That's IF we have an election in 2028. 

A paradox of clarity and confusion.

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17 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Such a non-sensical comment and with such made up numbers. You have a strong pattern.

I should ignore my own eyes and accept that the numbers I’ve seen are made up?  The numbers that are made up are the 2.3 and 4.3.  It’s been pointed out that if the calculations included the same inputs as in the 1970s the Biden/harris numbers are as bad, or worse, than Carter’s. 

12 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Oh Christ....the stupidity of shit shit. 

If  only you could look at the GDP, see the GROWTH, watch as the United States has become the OVERWHELMING powerhouse in designing GPUs with NVDA and AVGO, the Chip act(which Trump said he'd repeal and was one of the most successful pieces of economic policies in Presidential History, the act at the heart of the AI revolution) and you look at POSITIVE GDP growth vs Trump's NEGATIVE GDP growth!

 

It's all good. I understand much of this is over the heads of those re-posting Fox News Graph and I bought a couple thousand shares(pre-splitS) of NVDA in '20(as well as TSM, AVGO). I'll sell that and I'll be fine, but Trump and his team aren't even hiding what they plan on doing and people are still just blindly repeating this ignorant shit.

 

GDP GROWING 5-6% MORE under Biden than under Trump. 

But yeah, they're making it "harder to do commerce." The 3 TSM plants going on line in Arizona were 'hard to do,' with relatively small grants and MASSIVE investments. 

The Google investments in Wisconsin, the AMZN, META, MSFT growth, NVDA going from a 250M to 3.5 TRILLION dollar company, again, in thee MOST important economic sector for the next 100 years. The mechanism we'll use to DEFEND ourselves, to find and cure cancer(AI is already helping identify breast cancer 5 years before any Dr would be able to detect it)...THAT WAS BIDEN. That was the Chips act.

 

 

But I get it...y'all are so afraid of some tranny you've never met and you like the guy who has bankrupted DOZENS of small businesses, turned 400M into less money than if he'd JUST stuck it into an index fun, bankrupted casinos, screwed pornstars, cheated on every woman he's been with, THEN played the Christian and when asked if he's ever asked for forgiveness, responded, "I keep God out of that." 

 

 

The man is TELLING you what he's going to do. Across the board tariffs! 40 of his 44 cabinet members had come out and said they will either endorse Kamal or NOT endorse him. They're OPENLY talking about taking what is now a BOOMING economy that's a curly hair away from the ideal 2% inflation and he's going to send it into a recession with his tariffs(Musk's words...and it'll be Musk overseeing it, another immigrant working here "illegally," like his wife(Which...IDGAF a bout, but if you'r going to complain about immigrants breaking their backs working construction and not this, you're comical hypocrites)...

 

If that's what you need because you struggle to understand inflation and economics and you want to lay that at Biden's feet(it's not even Trump's "fault" unless you consider a world in which he dealt with COVID like a competent President)...then that's on you. 

I've been lucky enough to do better than I could have dreamt of the past 4 years. Again, I'll pull everything out, maybe buy a few multi-families when the recession hits(I did it last time) and live off the dividends of Bond ETFs... until we get another grown-up in there. That's IF we have an election in 2028. 

So, crony capitalism is good if you can get in on it.  Who knew?

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Posted
23 minutes ago, red viking said:

He's looking increasingly bad physically too

Probably why he fell down at the Butler rally and quit his golf game early. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, jross said:

That’s the face I give in response to your ignoring facts.  

Everyone on here ignores facts, it’s just a matter of which facts folks want to ignore, and what facts people want to zero in on is if they are the only thing that matter. 

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