California looking to tax EVs…..

[Caveira]

As they expect to receive less and less taxes on gasoline sales they are now looking to add a per miles driven tax on EVs.   What say you?
 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-05-14/california-offers-to-pay-drivers-to-test-mileage-fee

[mspart]

They should tax EV tires as they wear out more quickly due to the increased weight of an EV.   Tax the batteries as well to get the increased  revenue they want.   Taxing mileage is invasive of privacy in my opinion.   Unless you have to go to  a place and they record your mileage.   Government does not need to know where  you go on a daily basis. 

mspart

[Danny Deck]

They for sure need some way to tax them as the increased weight is going to be harder on roads. 

Agree that the per mile methods are invasive. All EVs seem to be major data collectors. 

[Lipdrag]

This is not hard.  Tax the electricity upon input to the vehicle.  Just like we tax gasoline now - when and where it is dispensed.  No tracking the car.  Heavier and less efficient vehicles pay more road tax per mile than lighter more efficient ones.  The concept already exists.  Just implement it.  

Actually, hybrids like the Prius are the tricky ones.  Plug in Hybrids just can pay taxes at the pump and at the electric meter.  But Prius-type hybrids only input energy at the pump.  Those are the hard ones to tax appropriately for road use.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

12 hours ago, Danny Deck said:

All EVs seem to be major data collectors. 

People will be shocked when they see exactly how much and what kind of data is collected and how it is used.

[wrestlingguy]

22 hours ago, Danny Deck said:

All EVs seem to be major data collectors. 

How so more than regular vehicles?

[Scouts Honor]

i wont be shocked.

[fishbane]

On 9/30/2024 at 1:22 PM, mspart said:

Taxing mileage is invasive of privacy in my opinion.   Unless you have to go to  a place and they record your mileage.   Government does not need to know where  you go on a daily basis. 

mspart

Isn't this already done through annual or biennial safety/emission inspections in a lot of states?  In CA there is smog inspection that is required for ICE cars to register/renew a registration.  Mileage could be recorded and the tax added to the registration renewal.  EVs are exempt from smog inspection so they would just need to have them stop by an inspection station to record milage before renewing the registration.  Or at least that is one implementation.

[mspart]

That's what i said.  But governments are not looking to do that, they want to know where you are going, they want active tracking to get the  mileage.   What you suggest would be acceptable. 

mspart