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Question: What team and what year had the most individual National Champs and did NOT win the team title?

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Smsu150 Varsity

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  On 9/26/2024 at 7:46 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

has to be PSU in 2021 with four individual champs and a second place team finish

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Oklahoma was close in 1982.  They had three individual champions and a runner-up.  "Dr. Death" Steve Williams lost in the heavyweight title match to Bruce Baumgardner 4 - 2.  The Schultz brothers and Andre Metzger claimed titles for the Sooners.  However, the Sooners finished 3rd in the team standings that year behind Iowa and Iowa State. 

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BigRedFan NCAA All-American

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  On 9/26/2024 at 8:24 PM, Smsu150 said:

Oklahoma was close in 1982.  They had three individual champions and a runner-up.  "Dr. Death" Steve Williams lost in the heavyweight title match to Bruce Baumgardner 4 - 2.  The Schultz brothers and Andre Metzger claimed titles for the Sooners.  However, the Sooners finished 3rd in the team standings that year behind Iowa and Iowa State. 

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Cornell in 2012 had three NCAA champions (Dake, Simaz, Bozak) and finished 4th.

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Caveira Big Brain

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  On 9/27/2024 at 12:10 AM, Hammerlock3 said:

did they even really lose that year....

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this should be fun.  
 

Yes.  By 14.5 points.    Maybe it’s why they recruited over two of their starters who underperformed at NCAAs that year?   One lost to the 33 seed in the round of 12 no ?

 

Hammerlock3 Big Brain

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  On 9/28/2024 at 12:46 AM, Caveira said:

this should be fun.  
 

Yes.  By 14.5 points.    Maybe it’s why they recruited over two of their starters who underperformed at NCAAs that year?   One lost to the 33 seed in the round of 12 no ?

 

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could you just say what you mean? Cause I have no clue what that is.

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SocraTease NCAA All-American

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Penn State seems to be almost locked in to a four year rinse and repeat cycle since 2010-11:

4 championships in a row (starting 2010-11)

Then "punt" (6th)

4 championships in a row (starting 2015-16)

Then "punt" ... sort of (2nd)

3 championships in a row (starting 2021-22)

.... and likely the 4th championship this season (2024-25)

 

        Year                 Record                       Conference            Conf. champ #       NCAAs/Pts     AAs   champs

 

Season Record Conf. (Points) Conf. Champs NCAA (Points) AAs NCAA Champs
2023-2024 12-0-0 1st (170.5) 5 1st (172.5) 8 4
2022-2023 16-0-0 1st (147.0) 4 1st (137.5) 8 2
2021-2022 17-0-0 2nd (141.5) 4 1st (131.5) 6 5
2020-2021 6-0-0 2nd (124.0) 2 2nd (113.5) 6 4
2019-2020 12-2-0 4th (107.0) 2 Canceled () 0 0
2018-2019 14-0-0 1st (157.5) 4 1st (137.5) 7 3
2017-2018 14-0-0 2nd (148.0) 3 1st (141.5) 8 4
2016-2017 14-0-0 2nd (130.0) 2 1st (146.5) 6 5
2015-2016 16-0-0 1st (150.5) 3 1st (123.0) 6 2
2014-2015 11-4-0 5th (96.5) 1 6th (67.5) 5 1
2013-2014 15-1-0 1st (140.5) 2 1st (109.5) 7 2
2012-2013 13-1-0 1st (151.0) 4 1st (123.5) 5 2
2011-2012 13-1-0 1st (149.0) 3 1st (143.0) 6 3
2010-2011 17-1-1 1st (139.0) 5 1st (107.5) 5 1
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Griff the BullRam Baby Brain

Griff the BullRam

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  On 9/28/2024 at 12:46 AM, Caveira said:

this should be fun.  
 

Yes.  By 14.5 points.    Maybe it’s why they recruited over two of their starters who underperformed at NCAAs that year?   One lost to the 33 seed in the round of 12 no ?

 

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Technically Berge did lose to Wyatt Sheets in the round of 12, famously the "34th seed", but Berge had to MFF the match (got a concussion in the quarters if I remember correctly).

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Wrestleknownothing Big Brain

Wrestleknownothing

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  On 10/1/2024 at 3:37 PM, Griff the BullRam said:

Technically Berge did lose to Wyatt Sheets in the round of 12, famously the "34th seed", but Berge had to MFF the match (got a concussion in the quarters if I remember correctly).

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you do remember correctly, though I think it was a knee rather than a concussion

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Caveira Big Brain

Caveira

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  On 10/1/2024 at 3:37 PM, Griff the BullRam said:

Technically Berge did lose to Wyatt Sheets in the round of 12, famously the "34th seed", but Berge had to MFF the match (got a concussion in the quarters if I remember correctly).

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I can tell you that I remember…..

when marianelli mff out of the tourney lots of people said that he underperformed…..    I dunno if that applies to psu does it?

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