KennyEBHS Posted October 14 Posted October 14 On 9/12/2024 at 9:05 PM, Chigachanuk said: Sorry, but I'll play the naysayer. Despite the fact that Robles wrestled with one leg, he had big time upper body advantage. Think about it: how much does a leg weigh? 35 pounds? So he had the upper body of a 170 pound man, which was very obvious. Yes he had moves, speed, and strength of a solid wrestler, but he also was hard to take down because he wrestled with one knee to the mat position which left his opponents not able to surprise Robles, . I think McD looked confuses as to where to attack and I think he suffered from what most Robles opponents did: "I don't want to take advantage of this guy, so I'll...........what?" Not taking anything away from Robles: he was an honest champ, but wrestling him was weird; his oponents looked confused. I am with you. His advantage was huge and that is why he could not wrestle internationally. Too much of an advantage. I respect the man for being able to do what he did with only on leg, but he definitely had an advantage in my opinion.
lu1979 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 On 9/15/2024 at 9:20 PM, Eagle26 said: I guess it’s a matter of preference, but I will say it wasn’t a bad movie. My expectations were just extremely high. Steve Carell is one of my favorite actors of all time and Channing Tatum is one of my wife’s favorite actors (not sure why lol). And the movie was an about one of the craziest wrestling stories ever. I really thought it would be my new all time favorite movie. Probably unfair expectations, but it really wasn’t close to my favorite It was a terrible movie and it was especially terrible if you wanted to know what happened in regards to the true story - like often happens in Hollywood they decided to spin a tale that was far removed from what actually happened. Mark Schultz was done competing (in FS Wrestling) in 1988 - the murder happened in 1996. For most of the early 1990s Mark was living in Utah coaching at BYU - that's pretty far removed from Foxcatcher - watching the movie you sure don't get that impression. If you are interested in what actually happened watch one of the documentaries - Mark Schultz had very little involvement with DuPont from 1988 on. 1
1032004 Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 4 hours ago, KennyEBHS said: I am with you. His advantage was huge and that is why he could not wrestle internationally. Too much of an advantage. What do you mean? He wasn’t allowed?
CHROMEBIRD Posted October 15 Posted October 15 2 hours ago, lu1979 said: It was a terrible movie and it was especially terrible if you wanted to know what happened in regards to the true story - like often happens in Hollywood they decided to spin a tale that was far removed from what actually happened. Mark Schultz was done competing (in FS Wrestling) in 1988 - the murder happened in 1996. For most of the early 1990s Mark was living in Utah coaching at BYU - that's pretty far removed from Foxcatcher - watching the movie you sure don't get that impression. If you are interested in what actually happened watch one of the documentaries - Mark Schultz had very little involvement with DuPont from 1988 on. Isn't that what happened in the movie? IIRC they showed Mark packing it up and leaving Foxcatcher Farm, then DuPont murders Dave a few scenes later. The film definitely takes some creative liberties, but Mark was also a script & story consultant.
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted October 15 Posted October 15 8 hours ago, 1032004 said: What do you mean? He wasn’t allowed? I'm not sure what that person is talking about. However, I do seem to remember that the "leg clinch" at that time was going to complicate things for him, and wondered how they would apply it to Robles.
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted October 15 Posted October 15 7 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Isn't that what happened in the movie? IIRC they showed Mark packing it up and leaving Foxcatcher Farm, then DuPont murders Dave a few scenes later. The film definitely takes some creative liberties, but Mark was also a script & story consultant. If I remember, he sold his story. Got paid. Then wasn't happy with the "creative liberties." The movie is generally considered to be excellent. It was critically acclaimed and received five Academy Award nominations. The movie is not my cup of tea, however. I watched it once, and wouldn't care to watch it again. BTW I was granted an audition to be an extra, but it was very last minute and I couldn't make it work with my schedule.
SNL Wrestling Posted October 15 Posted October 15 On 10/11/2024 at 10:59 AM, 1032004 said: Where? Is it even going to be in theaters when it comes out I thought it was an Amazon Prime thing? I have tickets in Chicago for 10/17
TNwrestling Posted October 15 Posted October 15 22 hours ago, lisa morales said: Pull up slacker. Only did 2,200 in one day. you dont know pullups til you've seen mike krause (rip) do them https://www.flowrestling.org/video/5161190-mike-krause-pullup-interview side note, he says my favorite thing in this interview. "Wreslting will show you who you are, and make you who you want to be." -Mike Krause
MadMardigain Posted October 15 Posted October 15 On 10/11/2024 at 11:59 AM, 1032004 said: Where? Is it even going to be in theaters when it comes out I thought it was an Amazon Prime thing? Basically make it or the actors in it eligible for any of the film award the movie has to be at least shown in a certain number of theaters on a limited release. Then they can put it out on Prime. It’s showing in Indianapolis this Saturday as part of a Film Festival.
1032004 Posted December 13 Author Posted December 13 Did anybody see it yet? Looked like it was out last week and the closest theater was about 40 minutes from me, but may be gone now.
forkemaz Posted December 13 Posted December 13 2 hours ago, 1032004 said: Did anybody see it yet? Looked like it was out last week and the closest theater was about 40 minutes from me, but may be gone now. Yes I went and saw it in Tempe this past weekend. It was enjoyable but not a great movie. Too much J lo, too much adhd cam during matches. They needlessly changed a bunch of thing i beleive they had no business changing. But I live here and wrestled a year behind Anthony so unless you are an ASU fan you probably will only notice 1 or 2 of the changes. In my opinion they took a unique and interesting story and tried to turn it into every other sports movie ever. 1
1032004 Posted December 13 Author Posted December 13 4 minutes ago, forkemaz said: Yes I went and saw it in Tempe this past weekend. It was enjoyable but not a great movie. Too much J lo, too much adhd cam during matches. They needlessly changed a bunch of thing i beleive they had no business changing. But I live here and wrestled a year behind Anthony so unless you are an ASU fan you probably will only notice 1 or 2 of the changes. In my opinion they took a unique and interesting story and tried to turn it into every other sports movie ever. Yeah that’s what the reviews made it seem like. How was the wrestling? 1
forkemaz Posted December 13 Posted December 13 4 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Yeah that’s what the reviews made it seem like. How was the wrestling? Wasnt enough of it, a lot of unneccesary grunting and grimmacing type stuff, they did a good job of representing Anthonys style where he locks on your wrist with his iron grip in neutral, his takedowns and his tilts. 1
1032004 Posted December 13 Author Posted December 13 10 hours ago, forkemaz said: Wasnt enough of it, a lot of unneccesary grunting and grimmacing type stuff Well that’s disappointing
forkemaz Posted December 13 Posted December 13 1 hour ago, 1032004 said: Well that’s disappointing Yeah id still suggest watching it. Gotta pump the numbers up if we want more wrestling movies. Also you may enjoy it. Im picky as hell. 1
1032004 Posted December 13 Author Posted December 13 1 hour ago, forkemaz said: Yeah id still suggest watching it. Gotta pump the numbers up if we want more wrestling movies. Also you may enjoy it. Im picky as hell. Looks like we’ll have to wait until it’s on Amazon Prime. Kinda sounds like one of the last wrestling movies to hit Amazon Prime, the Last Champion, which was OK but IIRC very typical sports movie.
wrestlingshoe Posted December 13 Posted December 13 It hard to beat the two best wrestling movies of all time Vision quest with the best characters: Karla, Kuch, and Shute Win Win with the best wrestling scenes and the best one liner: "Whatever the ***duck** it takes." Did enjoy Foxcatcher, no mater how depressing. Still looking forward to watching Unstoppable, even though the trailers looked a bit cheesy and it sounds like the wrestling is not great (although you could say that about Vision Quest). 2
Tripnsweep Posted December 14 Posted December 14 I saw it last weekend. It was a lot better than I thought it would be. It didn't exactly fit the narrative of how things went, and there was a "Rudy" moment that never happened. But overall it was pretty good. 1
152lbs Posted December 14 Posted December 14 Saying Robles had an unfair advantage is just nonsense. He found a way to adapt and overcome. More power to him.
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