When will Spencer Lee wrestle again?

[mbowlsby]

My guess is he gets at least one match at Solider Salute, likely two depending on performance and feel. Not sure it's realistic to think his gas tank will be at 100% this year given his injury/recovery, so it's more of a can he win a title at 70-80%. 

[Crotalus]

1 hour ago, MPhillips said:

Guy wrestling in the room is conditioning. If he's not wrestling in the room he can run and ride all he wants. He's gonna struggle to get in, "wrestling shape."

Sure, live wrestling in the room is part of conditioning. We don't know how much of that he is doing or will be able to do. But people are claiming he needs more official matches to get in shape. He needs to prioritize getting in shape in the room over getting official matches. 

[MPhillips]

9 minutes ago, Crotalus said:

But people are claiming he needs more official matches to get in shape.

If that's what they meant then those people shouldn't be allowed to post any longer...

[Crotalus]

12 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

If that's what they meant then those people shouldn't be allowed to post any longer...

I may be reading into their comments a bit, but it sounds like they are saying he needs more matches to have any chance at getting in shape. I want to see him wrestle, but don't think that should be his priority. Pick and choose select opportunities and build him up, I say. 

On 12/16/2022 at 8:51 PM, CementMixer said:

On 12/16/2022 at 8:18 PM, Formally140 said:

I think if they coddle him too much he’ll not be in shape and ready for the top 10 3-5 matches in a row 

It's going to be very difficult to build a gas tank on 1 match per month come early March.

 

[MPhillips]

Just now, Crotalus said:

but it sounds like they are saying he needs more matches to have any chance at getting in shape.

I hear ya...

[MadMardigain]

[CementMixer]

3 hours ago, mbowlsby said:

My guess is he gets at least one match at Solider Salute, likely two depending on performance and feel. Not sure it's realistic to think his gas tank will be at 100% this year given his injury/recovery, so it's more of a can he win a title at 70-80%. 

This is what I'm also thinking. Except I think more like 50-60%.

[BigRedFan]

1 hour ago, Crotalus said:

I may be reading into their comments a bit, but it sounds like they are saying he needs more matches to have any chance at getting in shape. I want to see him wrestle, but don't think that should be his priority. Pick and choose select opportunities and build him up, I say. 

 

Yianni only had surgery on one knee, and possibly not as damaged, but nine months after March surgery, he began competition again.  He wrestled four matches in his first tournament in November, and wrestled 11 matches by the end of December, with the last one avenging (again) his loss to Eierman.  Ended up at 29-0.  Spencer's surgery was nearly a year ago, right?

[MPhillips]

1 minute ago, BigRedFan said:

Spencer's surgery was nearly a year ago, right?

It was in March correct?

[Ban Basketball]

2 hours ago, Crotalus said:

Sure, live wrestling in the room is part of conditioning. We don't know how much of that he is doing or will be able to do. But people are claiming he needs more official matches to get in shape. He needs to prioritize getting in shape in the room over getting official matches. 

His sunken in eyes told the tale to me.  Big weight cut that zapped the fuel out of him. 

[BigRedFan]

8 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

It was in March correct?

Beginning of January.  January 7th, I believe.  He gave an interview on 1/2 that referenced the surgery "on Friday."

[MPhillips]

2 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

Beginning of January.  January 7th, I believe.  He gave an interview on 1/2 that referenced the surgery "on Friday."

Yeah. I believe I remember that now. Thanks BRF.

[BigRedFan]

1 minute ago, MPhillips said:

Yeah. I believe I remember that now. Thanks BRF.

Google search is your friend!  I don't remember that at all.

[MPhillips]

3 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

Google search is your friend!  I don't remember that at all.

It didn't matter enough to me to go to the world wide web. I only remember it because you wrote it.

[ionel]

10 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

It didn't matter enough to me to go to the world wide web. 

laziness 

[MPhillips]

3 minutes ago, ionel said:

laziness 

Pure.

[Crotalus]

49 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

Yianni only had surgery on one knee, and possibly not as damaged, but nine months after March surgery, he began competition again.  He wrestled four matches in his first tournament in November, and wrestled 11 matches by the end of December, with the last one avenging (again) his loss to Eierman.  Ended up at 29-0.  Spencer's surgery was nearly a year ago, right?

Not really sure how that's relevant. Lee has a history of knee issues and recovery and rehab can't vary greatly. We don't know if Lee's healing has been slower or if he had any setbacks. Or if there is cause for just taking it as slow as possible given his history. 

[BigRedFan]

1 hour ago, Crotalus said:

Not really sure how that's relevant. Lee has a history of knee issues and recovery and rehab can't vary greatly. We don't know if Lee's healing has been slower or if he had any setbacks. Or if there is cause for just taking it as slow as possible given his history. 

Yeah, how can it be relevant?  3x NCAA champions who got knee surgery and wrestled the next year.  Just another data point.

[Wrestleknownothing]

49 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

Yeah, how can it be relevant?  3x NCAA champions who got knee surgery and wrestled the next year.  Just another data point.

When is 2 > (2*1)?

Probably in this case.

[Crotalus]

1 hour ago, BigRedFan said:

Yeah, how can it be relevant?  3x NCAA champions who got knee surgery and wrestled the next year.  Just another data point.

Lee had both knees done, and has had one done before. Using Yianni as any kind of baseline for Lee's recovery and what his season should look like competition-wise this year would be ridiculous. 

Edited December 18, 2022 by Crotalus

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

5 hours ago, BigRedFan said:

Yianni only had surgery on one knee, and possibly not as damaged, but nine months after March surgery, he began competition again.  He wrestled four matches in his first tournament in November, and wrestled 11 matches by the end of December, with the last one avenging (again) his loss to Eierman.  Ended up at 29-0.  Spencer's surgery was nearly a year ago, right?

A knee that has been repaired twice has a longer recovery time, or so I was told by a PT.

[ionel]

1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

A knee that has been repaired twice has a longer recovery time, or so I was told by a PT.

Nah ... but every case can be different. 

[Ban Basketball]

As a guy in his late 50's and suffering some of the aches and pains of too many birthdays,  and never having a knee surgery in my life,  all I can say is that Lee is going to "hurt" a little in about 30-40 years. 

No,  thanks. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

https://source.wustl.edu/2011/09/study-looks-at-why-second-acl-surgeries-often-fail/

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

https://theathletic.com/2536485/2021/04/23/torment-all-over-again-what-its-like-to-suffer-multiple-acl-injuries/