Tucker bragging about Russia's clean subways, and the uproar within...

[WrestlingRasta]

In case you missed it Tucker is in Russia and has been going on about how clean the streets and subways are, much nicer than anything you are going to find in America he says.  And....... he is absolutely right.  I have spent time in Russia and they keep the streets, sidewalks, subways, etc immaculate.  No joke, you could picnic on the ground in the subways.  I don't like to wear shoes, if i can walk around barefoot I'm going to......boy did I get some looks of death.

But what is not being told is the 'why'?  Why are the streets, sidewalks, and subways all so immaculate?  Because when you have freedom, you also have the freedom to make the wrong choice.  Unfortunately freedom isn't free.  It takes work and also takes acceptance that people are going to do stupid shit when they are free to do so.  That's a pretty important part of the story...

[Jason Bryant]

Having only been to Moscow in Russia, I didn’t find the subways to be notably better than anyplace else I’ve traveled overseas (I’ve been to 29 countries).

I found the old Russian subway cars pretty unforgiving and the subway itself reeking of cigarettes - which isn’t uncommon in Eastern Europe and Russia.

From my experience, the Moscow subway is pretty easy to navigate, despite not knowing much Cyrillic.

[Offthemat]

1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

In case you missed it Tucker is in Russia and has been going on about how clean the streets and subways are, much nicer than anything you are going to find in America he says.  And....... he is absolutely right.  I have spent time in Russia and they keep the streets, sidewalks, subways, etc immaculate.  No joke, you could picnic on the ground in the subways.  I don't like to wear shoes, if i can walk around barefoot I'm going to......boy did I get some looks of death.

But what is not being told is the 'why'?  Why are the streets, sidewalks, and subways all so immaculate?  Because when you have freedom, you also have the freedom to make the wrong choice.  Unfortunately freedom isn't free.  It takes work and also takes acceptance that people are going to do stupid shit when they are free to do so.  That's a pretty important part of the story...

Are you sure that’s what he said, because you would have to watch him to know what he said and the context he said it in?

[WrestlingRasta]

11 minutes ago, Jason Bryant said:

Having only been to Moscow in Russia, I didn’t find the subways to be notably better than anyplace else I’ve traveled overseas (I’ve been to 29 countries).

I found the old Russian subway cars pretty unforgiving and the subway itself reeking of cigarettes - which isn’t uncommon in Eastern Europe and Russia.

From my experience, the Moscow subway is pretty easy to navigate, despite not knowing much Cyrillic.

Wasn’t in Moscow but St Pete. Subways were as described, was something that stood out to me. 

[WrestlingRasta]

2 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Are you sure that’s what he said, because you would have to watch him to know what he said and the context he said it in?

Did I pull up his show and watch?  No

Have I seen enough clips where he discussed this, within that context? Yes 

Cant wait to see what you’re trying to stir up this time.   It always goes so well for you…..gitty up. 

[JimmyBT]

TDS

[Offthemat]

3 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Did I pull up his show and watch?  No

Have I seen enough clips where he discussed this, within that context? Yes 

Cant wait to see what you’re trying to stir up this time.   It always goes so well for you…..gitty up. 

I was curious as to why you, of all people, would omit that he said the conditions there reminded him of cities in this country a few decades ago.  That he was pointing out the recent decadence in our cities, not the advantages of the communist system, which was something that Obama did as president. 

[JimmyBT]

19 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Did I pull up his show and watch?  No

Have I seen enough clips where he discussed this, within that context? Yes 

Cant wait to see what you’re trying to stir up this time.   It always goes so well for you…..gitty up. 

You’re gitty up got up and left ……..  as usual

[WrestlingRasta]

4 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

I was curious as to why you, of all people, would omit that he said the conditions there reminded him of cities in this country a few decades ago.  That he was pointing out the recent decadence in our cities, not the advantages of the communist system, which was something that Obama did as president. 

Well…..because I wasn’t talking about Obama, nor did I say he was saying anything about the advantages of the communist system. I made note that he omitted the role that freedom, or lack thereof, has on the topic, which is a pretty powerful impact. 
 

In other words my whole point of the post is he failed to mention how not being a free people plays into that. Now, whether he left that out intentionally or unintentionally I’m sure can be debated to ad nauseam. 

In a chat room full of ‘patriots’, I don’t see why pointing that out would be an issue. 

[JimmyBT]

7 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Well…..because I wasn’t talking about Obama, nor did I say he was saying anything about the advantages of the communist system. I made note that he omitted the role that freedom, or lack thereof, has on the topic, which is a pretty powerful impact. 
 

In other words my whole point of the post is he failed to mention how not being a free people plays into that. Now, whether he left that out intentionally or unintentionally I’m sure can be debated to ad nauseam. 

In a chat room full of ‘patriots’, I don’t see why pointing that out would be an issue. 

Only because you skipped the part where dems have allowed our inner cities (subways too) to become shitholes when they once were not. Freedom didn’t change. The policies did. 

Edited February 15 by JimmyBT

[Offthemat]

2 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Well…..because I wasn’t talking about Obama, nor did I say he was saying anything about the advantages of the communist system. I made note that he omitted the role that freedom, or lack thereof, has on the topic, which is a pretty powerful impact. 
 

In other words my whole point of the post is he failed to mention how not being a free people plays into that. Now, whether he left that out intentionally or unintentionally I’m sure can be debated to ad nauseam. 

In a chat room full of ‘patriots’, I don’t see why pointing that out would be an issue. 

Horse feathers.  He said our streets used to be that clean and he wished they still were.  It has nothing to do with freedom.  You went out of your way to take a shot at Tucker and missed.  

[WrestlingRasta]

1 minute ago, Offthemat said:

Horse feathers.  He said our streets used to be that clean and he wished they still were.  It has nothing to do with freedom.  You went out of your way to take a shot at Tucker and missed.  

And I know anything against Tucker or MAGA in general gets you all up in your feels, and I should do better. I apologize. That’s not how I wanted you to start your day, I’ll work on it. 
 

One Love

[JimmyBT]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/gavin-newsom-faces-backlash-for-solution-to-homeless-crisis/ar-BB1ihxvq?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=af9c34febaa34325b65bf1ec96292276&ei=77
 

And so it begins. Gavin Nelson wants to take money away from mental health programs and force it into housing.  Sure seems like the migrant crisis is impacting average Americans even though many on here don’t believe its doing any harm. 

Edited February 15 by JimmyBT

[Ohio Elite]

 

[ThreePointTakedown]

3 hours ago, JimmyBT said:

Only because you skipped the part where dems have allowed our inner cities (subways too) to become shitholes when they once were not. Freedom didn’t change. The policies did. 

So how do we end homelessness? 

How do we keep people from becoming homeless? 

Is it a 'personal choices' issue or something else? 

[Jason Bryant]

I feel like this is a real life Dave Skylark situation going on ... 

Edited February 15 by Jason Bryant

[Bigbrog]

Just now, ThreePointTakedown said:

So how do we end homelessness? 

How do we keep people from becoming homeless? 

Is it a 'personal choices' issue or something else? 

1.  We never will due to people having free choice and it would be nearly impossible to fix the plethora of other reasons people end up homelessness...ex, drugs and alcohol abuse

2. See No. 1

3.  Yes and yes

Any additional questions you know the answers to but wanted to sound morally superior in some way??

[WrestlingRasta]

3 minutes ago, Jason Bryant said:

I feel like this is a real life Dave Skylark situation going on ... 

I had to look that up..

Aaand…

Wouldn’t that be somethin??

[ThreePointTakedown]

14 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

1.  We never will due to people having free choice and it would be nearly impossible to fix the plethora of other reasons people end up homelessness...ex, drugs and alcohol abuse

2. See No. 1

3.  Yes and yes

Any additional questions you know the answers to but wanted to sound morally superior in some way??

Is addiction a personal choice?

Is domestic abuse a personal choice? If you answer yes. My follow up would be for who? If you'd care to elaborate. 

Edited February 15 by ThreePointTakedown

[mspart]

4 hours ago, Offthemat said:

Horse feathers.  He said our streets used to be that clean and he wished they still were.  It has nothing to do with freedom.  You went out of your way to take a shot at Tucker and missed.  

 

mspart

[Bigbrog]

2 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Is addiction a personal choice?

Is domestic abuse a personal choice? If you answer yes. My follow up would be for who? If you'd care to elaborate. 

1. Yes...personal choices lead to addiction

2. What the heck kind of question is that??  My question to you is how is domestic abuse a leading cause of homelessness??  Better question is, why would your head go there based on what I said??  I never said personal choice was the ONLY reason for homelessness yet alone said anything about domestic abuse.

[JimmyBT]

58 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

So how do we end homelessness? 

How do we keep people from becoming homeless? 

Is it a 'personal choices' issue or something else? 

A.  You’ll never end it but stopping unlawful immigration would certainly help slow it down.  
B. Ask Gavin Newsome. He wants to start taking money away from mental health programs and spend it on housing.  
C.  Yes and yes.  
 

[ThreePointTakedown]

23 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

1. Yes...personal choices lead to addiction

2. What the heck kind of question is that??  My question to you is how is domestic abuse a leading cause of homelessness??  Better question is, why would your head go there based on what I said??  I never said personal choice was the ONLY reason for homelessness yet alone said anything about domestic abuse.

1. No it isn't. Its not choice to take a pill created to treat your chronic pain that was brought about through no fault of your own. Then through no fault of your own, and all the fault of the company that created it, that you became addicted to it. So, your solution would be to just suffer in agonizing pain and misery either way because you brought it on yourself. 

2. Seems to have struck a nerve. I never mentioned 'leading' cause of anything. Just trying to point out that your knee jerk reaction to brow beat people for their 'personal choices' as a way to mitigate your guilt or other feels is a defense mechanism that needs to be addressed. Because these are PEOPLE and sometimes things happen that are out of their control. The 'personal choice' excuse, and it is an excuse, is a way to otherise a group that makes you feel icky. Makes it easier to ignore and walk past by seeing them as lacking in morality or some other dumb-ass fantasy characteristic that you hold in high regard that they could not possibly have and in so have little to no value to you. Since they have no value to you it is your opinion they should have little value to anyone else and we shouldn't spend hard earned money on people that 'CHOSE' this for themselves.  Which, to be clear, THEY. DID. NOT! 

[Le duke]

 

I want you to take a minute and think about why this isn’t the ringing endorsement you think it is.


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[JimmyBT]

Self accountability should be taught in grade school.