Takedown? Or no Takedown? Yes.

[MPhillips]

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/12047221-ncaa-official-coordinator-releases-statements-on-reaction-time-calls?utm_medium=socialmedia&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=thumbnail.officialstatement&utm_content=article&utm_campaign=news&fbclid=IwAR0q5x7FDFVL8qVz1yGvksVmGxeRmpVGqG-5dA2cakleHxtH3obl8fHIPS4

[MPhillips]

"During the last two weeks of wrestling competition, there were several scramble situations from the neutral position where takedowns were or were not awarded."

[Idaho]

"In one of these situations, a takedown should have been awarded as control was established beyond reaction time. In another situation, a takedown was awarded and then withdrawn after video review and conference with the assistant official. To be clear, reaction time should not have been the determining factor in the awarding of a takedown in either situation."

Hmmm.... I wonder who he is talking about.

 

[ionel]

40 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

"During the last two weeks of wrestling competition, there were several scramble situations from the neutral position where takedowns were or were not awarded."

Yes I was shocked at this statement ... shocked!  

[JuanMogen]

I'm saying Braeden Davis wasn't taken down.

[flyingcement]

49 minutes ago, ionel said:

Yes I was shocked at this statement ... shocked!  

these new age scramblers are truly disgusting.  either finish the shot cleanly or GTFO of there!

[1032004]

8 minutes ago, JuanMogen said:

I'm saying Braeden Davis wasn't taken down.

Well the National Coordinator of Wrestling Officials just said you’re wrong 

[TylerDurden]

27 minutes ago, JuanMogen said:

I'm saying Braeden Davis wasn't taken down.

Troll rating: 2/10 

 

[Paul158]

33 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Well the National Coordinator of Wrestling Officials just said you’re wrong 

BAM!!!!! BOOM!!!!! I'm sure he will stay on the ship until it sinks.

[flyingcement]

17 minutes ago, TylerDurden said:

Troll rating: 2/10 

 

I only ever owned one Troll.  We were in a hotel in Louisville with my family and I was sick.  This was the year 1991 or so. They went down to a mall that was connected to the hotel and bought me this as a cheering up present:

[Paul158]

2 hours ago, MPhillips said:

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/12047221-ncaa-official-coordinator-releases-statements-on-reaction-time-calls?utm_medium=socialmedia&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=thumbnail.officialstatement&utm_content=article&utm_campaign=news&fbclid=IwAR0q5x7FDFVL8qVz1yGvksVmGxeRmpVGqG-5dA2cakleHxtH3obl8fHIPS4

I was hoping that it would go up to the top man and it did. At this level of competition there is no excuse to blow an easy call. Even if they don't have video review. But they did have video review.

Edited February 7 by Paul158
missed a word

[wrestle87]

37 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Well the National Coordinator of Wrestling Officials just said you’re wrong 

And why no discussion and reconfirmation of what actually makes a pin?

Truax had looots of daylight under his shoulder blade, and woods was completely glued.

[Paul158]

4 minutes ago, wrestle87 said:

And why no discussion and reconfirmation of what actually makes a pin?

Truax had looots of daylight under his shoulder blade, and woods was completely glued.

It was still a really nice move and pin. Bernie is a 6th year transfer in all-American. You would have thought he would have done his homework. 

[wrestle87]

4 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

It was still a really nice move and pin. Bernie is a 6th year transfer in all-American. You would have thought he would have done his homework. 

I don’t argue that it was a nice move, whoever it was doesn’t change the rules around a pin. They showed his shoulders on the broadcast, they were nowhere close to both being in contact with the mat.

Edited February 7 by wrestle87

[Paul158]

2 minutes ago, wrestle87 said:

I don’t argue that it was a nice move, whoever it was doesn’t change the rules around a pin. They showed his shoulders on the broadcast, they were nowhere close to both being in contact with the mat.

So I expert NCAA ref blew a second call. He was having a really bad day.

[1032004]

28 minutes ago, wrestle87 said:

And why no discussion and reconfirmation of what actually makes a pin?

Truax had looots of daylight under his shoulder blade, and woods was completely glued.

I thought Truax was pinned.  Woods too, the ref was just out of position 

Edited February 7 by 1032004

[ionel]

31 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

I only ever owned one Troll.  We were in a hotel in Louisville with my family and I was sick.  This was the year 1991 or so. They went down to a mall that was connected to the hotel and bought me this as a cheering up present:

Troll rating: 8.5/10 

[wrestle87]

30 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

So I expert NCAA ref blew a second call. He was having a really bad day.

17 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I thought Truax was pinned.  Woods too, the ref was just out of position 

Did either of you catch the Okie State Mizzou match?  THAT ref was out of position for like 5 different sets of backpoints.

[wrestle87]

36 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

So I expert NCAA ref blew a second call. He was having a really bad day.

That dude did have a bad day.  I was watching that match and, while pulling for PSU, they were on the receiving end of a bunch of hometown calls that evening.

One that comes to mind that's gotten minimal discussion is Bartlett's OT takedown...that really wasn't a takedown.

Edited February 7 by wrestle87

[Ohio Elite]

If you ask me that was a 7 point move Vinny hit on Davis at the end. But I might be a little biased  

[Paul158]

28 minutes ago, wrestle87 said:

Did either of you catch the Okie State Mizzou match?  THAT ref was out of position for like 5 different sets of backpoints.

No I did not catch the match. Man you would think these guys would bring their A game. Pitiful.

[Paul158]

17 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said:

If you ask me that was a 7 point move Vinny hit on Davis at the end. But I might be a little biased  

I would be happy with 5.

[Paul158]

42 minutes ago, wrestle87 said:

That dude did have a bad day.  I was watching that match and, while pulling for PSU, they were on the receiving end of a bunch of hometown calls that evening.

One that comes to mind that's gotten minimal discussion is Bartlett's OT takedown...that really wasn't a takedown.

I figured that was a really close call with the new rules which i really don't like. I really enjoy when the wrestlers that  mix it up and scramble. It gets really exciting. i hope they go back and review the negative ramifications of the rule.

[1032004]

50 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

I figured that was a really close call with the new rules which i really don't like. I really enjoy when the wrestlers that  mix it up and scramble. It gets really exciting. i hope they go back and review the negative ramifications of the rule.

As the linked statement reiterates, the only “new rule” is removing the no reaction time from the rear standing position only.

I think Fix was the beneficiary of that against Edmond, but that’s the only one I recall seeing so far this year.

Pretty sure Bartlett’s was officially a neutral danger zone takedown.  Or is that the “new rule” you’re referencing?  That’s been around several years now and I think seems to be universally agreed that it was a good addition.  

Edited February 7 by 1032004

[JuanMogen]

3 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Well the National Coordinator of Wrestling Officials just said you’re wrong 

He's biased, and I'm tired of his trolling.