bnwtwg Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, cowcards said: Question - True Freshman champs are rare, however, one year the same team had 2 of them. Name the year, team, and wrestlers. Was it Davis and Zalesky? i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Gus said: Snyder and Myles Martin 2016 tOSU? Snyder was a SO. 1 hour ago, KCMO2 said: Hall and Joseph in '17? Joseph redshirted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 35 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: Was it Davis and Zalesky? Davis was 7th and Zalesky was 5th as FR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I expect @cowcards will be updating this wiki table with school and classification after someone finally figures this out. Right? Right.....? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_Wrestling_Championships i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 59 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: I expect @cowcards will be updating this wiki table with school and classification after someone finally figures this out. Right? Right.....? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_Wrestling_Championships Once I get my website up and running you'll have all the info you need! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 5 hours ago, cowcards said: Question - True Freshman champs are rare, however, one year the same team had 2 of them. Name the year, team, and wrestlers. 1947 Cornell College (IA) Dick Hauser at 121 https://cornellrams.com/honors/hall-of-fame/richard-j-hauser/165 Lowell Lange at 136 https://cornellrams.com/honors/hall-of-fame?hof=157 Found this video about the "1947 Dream Team" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NWHOFDGM/videos/830691920718513/ Edited February 2 by lu_alum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Adding a little more about Lowell Lange: "Lange won his first National AAU title while still at Waterloo West High School in Waterloo, Iowa. For three of the next four years, he reigned over the nation’s lightweight wrestlers. He claimed three individual NCAA titles at 136 pounds in 1947, 1949, and 1950, along with individual national AAU titles those years. Had he not suffered severe injuries in a car accident as a sophomore in the Olympic year of 1948, Lange likely would have become college wrestling’s first four-time champion, as well as an international medalist. Returning from injury as a junior, Lange swept through the 1949 collegiate tournament without surrendering a single point, perhaps the only wrestler to do so since scoring rules were adopted." https://news.cornellcollege.edu/2019/04/lowell-lange-50-report/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 30 minutes ago, lu_alum said: 1947 Cornell College (IA) Dick Hauser at 121 https://cornellrams.com/honors/hall-of-fame/richard-j-hauser/165 Lowell Lange at 136 https://cornellrams.com/honors/hall-of-fame?hof=157 Found this video about the "1947 Dream Team" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NWHOFDGM/videos/830691920718513/ Ding Ding Ding. 15 minutes ago, lu_alum said: Adding a little more about Lowell Lange: "Lange won his first National AAU title while still at Waterloo West High School in Waterloo, Iowa. For three of the next four years, he reigned over the nation’s lightweight wrestlers. He claimed three individual NCAA titles at 136 pounds in 1947, 1949, and 1950, along with individual national AAU titles those years. Had he not suffered severe injuries in a car accident as a sophomore in the Olympic year of 1948, Lange likely would have become college wrestling’s first four-time champion, as well as an international medalist. Returning from injury as a junior, Lange swept through the 1949 collegiate tournament without surrendering a single point, perhaps the only wrestler to do so since scoring rules were adopted." https://news.cornellcollege.edu/2019/04/lowell-lange-50-report/ Of note with this is that Cornell didn't send a team to the 1948 tournament. Even without the injury he may not have been able to. I can't remember why exactly, but it may have been because of injuries so they decided to rest and wrestle AAU. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 21 minutes ago, cowcards said: Ding Ding Ding. Of note with this is that Cornell didn't send a team to the 1948 tournament. Even without the injury he may not have been able to. I can't remember why exactly, but it may have been because of injuries so they decided to rest and wrestle AAU. Watching the FB video, it seems that Lange was not the only guy injured in the auto accident. Jay Hammond's summary in The History of Collegiate Wrestling confirms your assumption. It states, "Defending champ Cornell of Iowa did not enter a team. The Rams were without injured NCAA champs Lowell Lange and Dick Hauser, and a number of other starters were not fully fit. Cornell mentor Paul Scott decided to concentrate on the National AAU tournament, and the team did not make the trip to Bethlehem." Edited February 2 by lu_alum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, lu_alum said: Watching the FB video, it seems that Lange was not the only guy injured in the auto accident. Jay Hammond's summary in The History of Collegiate Wrestling confirms your assumption. It states, "Defending champ Cornell of Iowa did not enter a team. The Rams were without injured NCAA champs Lowell Lange and Dick Hauser, and a number of other starters were not fully fit. Cornell mentor Paul Scott decided to concentrate on the National AAU tournament, and the team did not make the trip to Bethlehem." I'm willing to bet that's the exact thing I read. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 Didn't get a chance to jump on here yesterday so I will do 2 questions today. First: Name the top-3, currently Non-D1, schools with the most AAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 The answers were Cornell (IA), Southwestern Oklahoma, Mankato/Slippery Rock. Question - We'll stick with current Non-D1 wrestlers again. Lowell Lange and Carlton Haselrig both won 3 titles attending non-D1 schools. Name the wrestlers that have won 2 titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 6 hours ago, cowcards said: The answers were Cornell (IA), Southwestern Oklahoma, Mankato/Slippery Rock. Question - We'll stick with current Non-D1 wrestlers again. Lowell Lange and Carlton Haselrig both won 3 titles attending non-D1 schools. Name the wrestlers that have won 2 titles. Wade Schalles/Clarion. Dan Cuestas/Cal St Bakersfield. Rick Sanders/Portland St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 25 minutes ago, 11986 said: Wade Schalles/Clarion. Dan Cuestas/Cal St Bakersfield. Rick Sanders/Portland St. The 3 of those are currently D1 schools. I asked about current non-D1 schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 11 minutes ago, cowcards said: The 3 of those are currently D1 schools. I asked about current non-D1 schools. Ah missed that but Portland St maybe still qualifies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 In this day and age everyone transfers. That obviously wasn't always the case. Two-part question: 1. Who is the first to AA after transferring? 2. Who is the first to become a National Champion after transferring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, cowcards said: In this day and age everyone transfers. That obviously wasn't always the case. Two-part question: 1. Who is the first to AA after transferring? 2. Who is the first to become a National Champion after transferring? Part 1: No clue at the moment. I'll have to do some digging. Part 2: Greg Ruth? Competed at Lehigh through his Soph year (1959). Spent 4yrs in the Army, then transferred to Oklahoma and won two titles (1965 & 1966) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 2/4/2024 at 1:23 PM, cowcards said: The 3 of those are currently D1 schools. I asked about current non-D1 schools. Ralph Teague, Southwestern Oklahoma (1933, 1934) Tony Gizoni, Waynesburg (1950, 1951) Jack Cuvo, East Stroudsburg (1988, 1989) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 9 hours ago, lu_alum said: Ralph Teague, Southwestern Oklahoma (1933, 1934) Tony Gizoni, Waynesburg (1950, 1951) Jack Cuvo, East Stroudsburg (1988, 1989) Correct! 9 hours ago, lu_alum said: Part 1: No clue at the moment. I'll have to do some digging. Part 2: Greg Ruth? Competed at Lehigh through his Soph year (1959). Spent 4yrs in the Army, then transferred to Oklahoma and won two titles (1965 & 1966) You'll have to go back a bit more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 I'll give you a hint. They both transferred from the same program and went to HS in the same state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Pick up my annual Preview Guide at wrestlingpreviewguide.com - it’s great for winning and hosting things like this. This year’s won’t be available until Tuesday(ish) before D1s. 1 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/1/2024 at 3:58 PM, bnwtwg said: Was it Davis and Zalesky? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Jason Bryant said: Pick up my annual Preview Guide at wrestlingpreviewguide.com - it’s great for winning and hosting things like this. This year’s won’t be available until Tuesday(ish) before D1s. I love your guide! Highly recommend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 (edited) The 2 answers: Ralph Hammonds in 1928 Harold Byrd in 1940 Both started at Oklahoma State. Edited February 16 by cowcards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 1/25/2024 at 9:58 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: Gorriaran winner that year too with 3 pinfalls. can't it just be a pin or a fall???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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