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[ThreePointTakedown]

5 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

It’s a trend that’s probably not going to slow down. Most schools aren’t even safe to be in let alone learn.  With social media very few don’t have the resources now days.  With the way the regulations are being lowered it seems easily doable no matter whom you are. 

We can talk about safe another time. That is too muddy to address now. 

The word 'probably' is carry a lot of weight. The thing that trends always do is change. Sometimes they come back but they almost always change. 

Based on housing costs going up and needing a higher % of income to pay for rent/mortgage. That a family will be able to afford to keep one parent home to school kids seems to be going down as cost goes up. Like I said before, this has never been an issue for those with the wealth and privilege to do it anyway. They will always have an advantage. I'm concerned with those that don't have those resources. I might be wrong. 

What resources does social media provide that has to do with this topic? Not seeing how it ties in. 

What is doable? Not sure what you mean. 

[ThreePointTakedown]

57 minutes ago, jross said:

The media does want to control our thoughts.  That's not up for debate for folks that follow the Main Street News, read the journalist vs citizen surveys on the purpose of journalism, understand who pays the media and why, etc.

By trying to tell us in those articles that we need to be better critical thinkers. It is up for debate. We're doing it now. Conspiracy theories are not helping your case. And surveys of opinions don't count as reasonable evidence to your point. 

That is the point of the articles. You shouldn't hold such bad evidence in such high regard. Be skeptical of media and what they are telling you? Yes. But all media, especially if you agree with them. Why do you agree with them? Are they selling you something? Do they have a robust mechanism for getting and discerning the truth or the facts? Do they like being called out and corrected or do they lash out and smear? 

[Bigbrog]

Why is the sun hot?  Why does water make you wet?  How come people die?  Why do you drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?  Where is Waldo?

[Ohio Elite]

15 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Why is the sun hot?  Why does water make you wet?  How come people die?  Why do you drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?  Where is Waldo?

I'm still looking for Waldo, that bastard is a sneaky one!

[Bigbrog]

1 minute ago, Ohio Elite said:

I'm still looking for Waldo, that bastard is a sneaky one!

Yes he is!  Threepoint will probably tell us he is hard to find because of his privilege.  

[mspart]

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3 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

But honest conversations are a good start. That means conspiracy theories need to be proven with evidence before believed as fact.

Like Russian hoax taken as truth?   Like the lie that border patrol agents were whipping Haitians?  Like the lie that a woman and two children were drowning in the Rio Grande and that TX officials prevented Border Patrol from saving them?   Like Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation?   Each of these were accepted as truth until proven as lies, conspiracy theories.  So the government is not in such a position to determine if something is a conspiracy theory or not as they promulgate them.  So who then is that benevolent person?

mspart

 

[WrestlingRasta]

[mspart]

3 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

'There is no evidence that hackers have attempted to exploit any of the identified vulnerabilities, or that any such hack has occurred in previous elections. But Georgia was at the center of election conspiracy theories advanced by President Donald Trump and his allies, many of whom singled out Dominion Voting Machines and claimed the election had been hacked. Fox News recently agreed to shell out $787 million to Dominion for advancing claims that Dominion voting machines had been rigged in the 2020 election.'

Perhaps there is no evidence.   Perhaps there is.  Has an exhaustive investigation taken place?  This guy demonstrated how easily it could be done and that it could affect all machines in the county.   So how long did it take for the media and democrats to stop with the Russian Collusion hoax?   It was years until the Mueller investigation showed there was no such thing.   And even then, the media and Ds still did not let go of that lifeline.   So there is no evidence right now, but that doesn't mean it couldn't have happened.   Isn't it time, based on the ease with this this guy subverted the machines, to mount some kind of investigation of this?  

mspart

[mspart]

3 hours ago, JimmyBT said:

Having self respect is nice.  

2 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

must be nice

Admitting you don't have it?

mspart

[mspart]

2 hours ago, jross said:

I asked my three kids the old grading question.  You know.. the one where the teacher decides to teach the class about socialism by giving every kid the same grade on tests.  At first, everyone got a B, then a D, then an F.  This concept was new to them, and they (11, 14, 17 years old) answered immediately and correctly as I told the story.

1. How did the students' attitudes change after the first test? (the studiers were frustrated, the laggards were happy)
2. Why do you think the average grade dropped in the second test? (the studiers lost motivation, the laggards stopped trying)
3. What happened to the students' cooperation as the tests continued? (no effort from anyone)

This is borne out in the Pilgrims experience.   They were a commune where everything was held in the community.   The results of that were similar to your example.   Then individual enterprise was tried by allowing the folks to do with their land whatever they wanted.   Soon food was more plentiful and general welfare increased dramatically.   Equality of outcome leads to lower results, it is human nature.   Individual accountability generally leads to greater results and better conditions for the community.   That also is human nature.  

mspart

[mspart]

2 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Is that in the article? Not sure I saw that. 

Where is this practice taking place? 

Certainly happening here in WA. 

mspart

[jross]

2 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

How do you determine that education is progressive? Where, in public or private? 

People want to advance those people, places, and things that support their ideas and values. Yes. Not just to youth. You, as a non-youth I'm assuming, are just as susceptible to corporate influence. When you convince yourself you aren't, you might already be lost to that influence. 

Hedge funds changing corporate behavior by force: Where are you going with that, please expand? Hedge funds like making money. That's what I know about hedge funds. 

What is racist about DEI?  

Will you look into the answers to your lurking questions, or should I do it for you?  These questions you are asking are a PRIME REASON to research beyond what the main street news feeds you.

[ThreePointTakedown]

33 minutes ago, mspart said:

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Like Russian hoax taken as truth?   Like the lie that border patrol agents were whipping Haitians?  Like the lie that a woman and two children were drowning in the Rio Grande and that TX officials prevented Border Patrol from saving them?   Like Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation?   Each of these were accepted as truth until proven as lies, conspiracy theories.  So the government is not in such a position to determine if something is a conspiracy theory or not as they promulgate them.  So who then is that benevolent person?

mspart

 

Which Russia hoax? That they meddled in an/many elections? That is fact. Did 45 collude with them, did he ask them, on camera to look into Hillary's emails? That is a quid. That the Russians who hacked Hillary's campaign didn't send him an embossed, 'Yes!' doesn't mean their interests weren't aligned. That he was dumb enough to make the statement should indicate his fitness for office, which is none. But that then went on to coddle a Russian dictator for four years, if for no other reason then to gas light his political enemies to the determent of his country and the world, should tell you his fitness for office. Which is none. 

Not sure of the whipping Haitians story. Can't comment. 

Texas blocking feds,  three people died a pretty excruciating death and the hill you are going to die on is that Texas officials, who WERE, YES THEY WERE blocking feds from the border, didn't directly block feds from helping these people? So indirectly blocking them from the whole border is not the same as preventing feds from aiding these three specific people. You are supporting people that were breaking the law. That they were indirectly responsible for the needless deaths of a woman and CHILDREN and not directly responsible is what you will hang your W on because of the reporting. Do you see how ridiculous that sounds? Of course you don't. You have this opinion or else you would clearly see how dangerous your ideas are. 

And I am the one that can't see reason. I am not in favor of the deaths of innocent people. And they WERE INNOCENT because you can't prove the weren't and now their futures were stolen because of an imaginary line that we just made up. That you feel the need to defend and kill for. But I am unreasonable?

Gish Gallop 

 

[Bigbrog]

Who's unhinged?  Who exaggerates things for emotional purposes in order to make themselves somehow feel morally superior to others?  Who infers things about people based on lack of reading comprehension?  Who asks questions to answer questions?  Who is a narcissist?

[jross]

1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

But... but...

In the city of Opulenceville, Waldo's privilege was unmistakable. He exuded opulence, dressed in a newly acquired, bespoke cashmere sweater and adorned with an exclusive stock cap. His cane, crafted from rare wood found only in Privilege Peaks, symbolized his elevated status. The designer glasses perched on his nose weren't just for vision but served as a filter through which he saw the world, tinted with the hues of entitlement. Waldo's privileged white background and impeccable fitness were a testament to luck and the luxury of time. Waldo's every step echoed privilege, turning heads and prompting whispers...

TPTD thought process when he sees Walde... probably ^^^

[ThreePointTakedown]

46 minutes ago, mspart said:

Perhaps there is no evidence.   Perhaps there is.  Has an exhaustive investigation taken place?  This guy demonstrated how easily it could be done and that it could affect all machines in the county.   So how long did it take for the media and democrats to stop with the Russian Collusion hoax?   It was years until the Mueller investigation showed there was no such thing.   And even then, the media and Ds still did not let go of that lifeline.   So there is no evidence right now, but that doesn't mean it couldn't have happened.   Isn't it time, based on the ease with this this guy subverted the machines, to mount some kind of investigation of this?  

mspart

Yes. That's what that means. 

I can appreciate the thought of something being possible despite a lack of evidence. 

What it seems like you're trying to say is that the lack of evidence IS evidence that warrants an investigation as to whether the lack of evidence is authentic. Is that the case? 

If so, is any non-crime safe from being investigated? Could the police or any law enforcement use that as a reason to come into your home or office to search for something. Because there is NO evidence of it but they want to make sure that their being no evidence is just a coincidence.   

 

[ThreePointTakedown]

1 hour ago, Bigbrog said:

Yes he is!  Threepoint will probably tell us he is hard to find because of his privilege.  

Touché 

[JimmyBT]

3 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

That is a response to what? 

Government controlled health care sucks.  

[ThreePointTakedown]

4 hours ago, JimmyBT said:

Grading for instance used to be A, B, C, D, F

now it’s Pass or Fail

pass includes A, B, C, D Fail includes F

I can have A results and get the same Grade as someone that got D results.  All in the name of making someone feel better.  

Some classes can be taken pass fail if my memory serves but only if requested but that was college. Are ALL classes, in Jr. High and HS, now P/F? That doesn't seem like it would work. Can someone else weigh in to confirm? I've been out of school too long. 

Hard to land on an accurate GPA if that's the case. Do they still do GPA? 

[ThreePointTakedown]

4 hours ago, jross said:

Is TPTD a teacher for real?

In a manner of speaking. Have some in my family. 

Edited January 23 by ThreePointTakedown

[JimmyBT]

3 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

We can talk about safe another time. That is too muddy to address now. 

The word 'probably' is carry a lot of weight. The thing that trends always do is change. Sometimes they come back but they almost always change. 

Based on housing costs going up and needing a higher % of income to pay for rent/mortgage. That a family will be able to afford to keep one parent home to school kids seems to be going down as cost goes up. Like I said before, this has never been an issue for those with the wealth and privilege to do it anyway. They will always have an advantage. I'm concerned with those that don't have those resources. I might be wrong. 

What resources does social media provide that has to do with this topic? Not seeing how it ties in. 

What is doable? Not sure what you mean. 

You also eliminate daycare costs 

[ThreePointTakedown]

4 hours ago, JimmyBT said:

I saw that too. If true, It sure explains a lot as to why our kids can’t read and write. 
 

Always with the not-so thinly veiled insults. Why so mad? 

[JimmyBT]

3 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

We can talk about safe another time. That is too muddy to address now. 

The word 'probably' is carry a lot of weight. The thing that trends always do is change. Sometimes they come back but they almost always change. 

Based on housing costs going up and needing a higher % of income to pay for rent/mortgage. That a family will be able to afford to keep one parent home to school kids seems to be going down as cost goes up. Like I said before, this has never been an issue for those with the wealth and privilege to do it anyway. They will always have an advantage. I'm concerned with those that don't have those resources. I might be wrong. 

What resources does social media provide that has to do with this topic? Not seeing how it ties in. 

What is doable? Not sure what you mean. 

Safety is and should be the main focus. Not just for students but teachers being safe from the students. 

[JimmyBT]

12 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Always with the not-so thinly veiled insults. Why so mad? 

We’ve covered this before. Pay attention. I’m never mad (especially not over partisan speak on social media) as life is too short to whine and complain all the time.  Glass half empty is for those that can’t figure out how to make their glass half full. 
 

if anyones angry on here it’s you. 

Edited January 23 by JimmyBT

[JimmyBT]

5 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Some classes can be taken pass fail if my memory serves but only if requested but that was college. Are ALL classes, in Jr. High and HS, now P/F? That doesn't seem like it would work. Can someone else weigh in to confirm? I've been out of school too long. 

Hard to land on an accurate GPA if that's the case. Do they still do GPA? 

No, some have satisfactory so people with D’s don’t feel bad.