WrestlingRasta Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 https://www.yahoo.com/news/abc-calls-off-next-gop-221210698.html I want to see a debate with the final three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) It won't get her anywhere and allows DeSantis free reign to discuss his policy objectives unfettered ( my new word of the day!!). mspart Edited January 16 by mspart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Polls showed that about half of haley’s Iowa voters were democrats and would vote for Biden over Trump. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 That should make her feel better. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 There are definitely some not in favor, some don’t want to see their King challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Haley is likable (imo) but she's a fraud and she's being propped up by the left. one county in iowa ran out of party-change forms b/c dems were trying to get her traction. 1 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Nikki is Hillary Clinton 2.0. Just a little more attractive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Husker_Du said: Haley is likable (imo) but she's a fraud and she's being propped up by the left. one county in iowa ran out of party-change forms b/c dems were trying to get her traction. Is Haley being propped up by the left? I'm not arguing against it, but I just haven't seen it myself. On the opposite side, Dean Phillips seems like he's being propped up by the right, but I feel like he has been saying a lot of the right things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 4 hours ago, flyingcement said: Is Haley being propped up by the left? I'm not arguing against it, but I just haven't seen it myself. On the opposite side, Dean Phillips seems like he's being propped up by the right, but I feel like he has been saying a lot of the right things. She’s not being propped up by the left. MAGA just starting their thing because shes challenging Trump and the sheep are falling in herd. She’s the most dangerous to Biden because she’s the only one of the three who can pull from the middle. Part of why she’s my favorite of the three. Who currently running for president is not a fraud? Name one?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 hours ago, flyingcement said: Is Haley being propped up by the left? I'm not arguing against it, but I just haven't seen it myself. On the opposite side, Dean Phillips seems like he's being propped up by the right, but I feel like he has been saying a lot of the right things. Yes, she's the only Republican candidate the MSM seems to like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: Yes, she's the only Republican candidate the MSM seems to like. Could that be because of her approach and ideals make her the only attractive candidate outside of MAGA, instead of being “pumped by the left? Honest question, cuz I don’t see her being pumped by the left. This stuff about democrats in Iowa was started and pushed by Josh Hall, a convicted felon for fraud and threatening to kill a congressman. Not exactly a great source of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Could that be because of her approach and ideals make her the only attractive candidate outside of MAGA, instead of being “pumped by the left? Honest question, cuz I don’t see her being pumped by the left. This stuff about democrats in Iowa was started and pushed by Josh Hall, a convicted felon for fraud and threatening to kill a congressman. Not exactly a great source of information. I don't know much about the Iowa stuff. What I do know is she's an establishment shill who is beholden to her donors. She's a war hawk and her speeches come across super cringe and not well thought out. However I would begrudgingly vote for her over Biden or Newsom. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 25 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Could that be because of her approach and ideals make her the only attractive candidate outside of MAGA, instead of being “pumped by the left? Honest question, cuz I don’t see her being pumped by the left. This stuff about democrats in Iowa was started and pushed by Josh Hall, a convicted felon for fraud and threatening to kill a congressman. Not exactly a great source of information. Being that DeSantis is your governor. I'm curious on your thoughts of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 27 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: I don't know much about the Iowa stuff. What I do know is she's an establishment shill who is beholden to her donors. She's a war hawk and her speeches come across super cringe and not well thought out. However I would begrudgingly vote for her over Biden or Newsom. Whomever the candidate on the right is will be better than Biden 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: Being that DeSantis is your governor. I'm curious on your thoughts of him. I was a fan for a bit. Then he started moving further and further away from center, trying to hone in on a subset of republicans. Not a fan of some of the things he’s done/said in the run up to campaign. There are certainly more serious issues in Florida that need attention than some of the stuff he’s seemed focused on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 31 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: I don't know much about the Iowa stuff. What I do know is she's an establishment shill who is beholden to her donors. She's a war hawk and her speeches come across super cringe and not well thought out. However I would begrudgingly vote for her over Biden or Newsom. I don’t know of a current presidential candidate who is not an establishment shill beholden to their donors…..or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: Whomever the candidate on the right is will be better than Biden I wouldn’t go with whomever, but I would go with most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, WrestlingRasta said: I wouldn’t go with whomever, but I would go with most. I haven’t voted for trump in the past. Him vs Biden in 2024. That changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 A bad as Biden has been its nothing compared to what he’ll be like as a lame duck President. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 Agree to disagree. I didn’t vote the president line in the last two elections. And I’ve never voted democrat for president. Both could possibly change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) I have voted Dem in the past. Even once for Obama. Never again. This country will never recover if Biden has four more years. Edited January 17 by JimmyBT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: I have voted Dem in the past. Even once for Obama. Never again. This country will never recover if Biden has four more years. I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary, hoping Hillary wouldn't win my state. She won anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary, hoping Hillary wouldn't win my state. She won anyway. Your choices were almost as bad as our choices for President are now . It just amazes me what we end up with for choices. Edited January 17 by JimmyBT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 (edited) I appreciate what he has done to a) bring us back to a good track from the depths we were in from 2020, and b) improve our standing and respect around the world. I’m sure I’m going to be flooded with posts from Twitter, WSJ, thehill to counter what I said above, but while everyone follows what their respective media tells them to think I like to focus more on the raw data. That said, there’s a difference between coming back, and pushing forward. Once you’re back the agenda becomes much more push forward, and to your point it’s those push forward ideals that would concern me. Edited January 17 by WrestlingRasta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Your first paragraph says enough about you that there’s no need to flood you with anything. It’s nothing more than an opinion and a terrible one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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