Twitter is better

[Plasmodium]

I despise Google, Twitter, meta, apple, Microsoft and all the other tech giants.  They rob every user of their privacy regardless of account existence or status.  Unfortunately it is impossible to subsist on TOR, Linux and Mozilla.

[Mike Parrish]

1 hour ago, Plasmodium said:

I despise Google, Twitter, meta, apple, Microsoft and all the other tech giants.  They rob every user of their privacy regardless of account existence or status.  Unfortunately it is impossible to subsist on TOR, Linux and Mozilla.

 

[Mike Parrish]

Well, well, well...

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-trump-twitter-files-collusion-biden-censorship-1234675969/

[El Luchador]

7 hours ago, Mike Parrish said:

Well, well, well...

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-trump-twitter-files-collusion-biden-censorship-1234675969/

Devils in the details. Were they violations? People I imagine would protest certain posts. That's how they monitor things.  One thing I do know for sure is Twitter had an improper relationship with the Democrats and routinely misscharacterized content to make it fit their agenda.  Hunters laptop is just one example. 

[Mike Parrish]

lol
 

 

[El Luchador]

4 hours ago, Mike Parrish said:

lol
 

 

I personally have no familiarity with Twitter,  but I'm pretty sure that's a violation of policy.  Not even close to trying to silence your opposition like we now know was common practice.  Asking for entire content be removed from all users such as vaccine discussion was clearly Government censorship. Not the same as flagging content that violates policy. 

Edited February 9, 2023 by El Luchador

[Plasmodium]

3 hours ago, El Luchador said:

I personally have no familiarity with Twitter,  but I'm pretty sure that's a violation of policy.  Not even close to trying to silence your opposition like we now know was common practice.  Asking for entire content be removed from all users such as vaccine discussion was clearly Government censorship. Not the same as flagging content that violates policy. 

Some content has to be filtered.  Social media can't allow itself to be the medium for crazies and cynics to spread propaganda and lies that will definitely result in damage to society.  People don't have the right to yell fire in a crowded theater.

Trump is an easily triggered snowflake.  By comparison, half of social media chants vulgarities at Biden on a regular basis and we hear crickets from him.

 

[Nailbender]

36 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

Some content has to be filtered.  Social media can't allow itself to be the medium for crazies and cynics to spread propaganda and lies that will definitely result in damage to society.  People don't have the right to yell fire in a crowded theater.

Trump is an easily triggered snowflake.  By comparison, half of social media chants vulgarities at Biden on a regular basis and we hear crickets from him.

 

I don't necessarily disagree.

As an aside, before social media the cynics and crazies still rambled. Sometimes in the literal public square or at the bar or wrestling tournaments, wherever. I think everyone saw them as just what they were. Why do we need to protect people on social media from seeing them and would you let me decide who they are?

[Jason Bryant]

User experience has gone down the shitter. I use(d) Blue because I don’t want to fat-finger a stat because, you know, phones/autocorrect/etc. and that won’t even work. Locked into a stuck profile because I changed my image - which used to take seconds.

They’ve gone and effed it all up.

[Plasmodium]

44 minutes ago, Nailbender said:

I don't necessarily disagree.

As an aside, before social media the cynics and crazies still rambled. Sometimes in the literal public square or at the bar or wrestling tournaments, wherever. I think everyone saw them as just what they were. Why do we need to protect people on social media from seeing them and would you let me decide who they are?

Because elections are rigged, people die, people get sick,  people are scammed, child porn is distributed and so on and so forth.  Assuming it was your company, I wouldn't have any options.  I can criticize you, likely on your own platform.  If you were king for a day, how would you decide what to filter?

[El Luchador]

If you can't win the debate silence the opposition. 

[El Luchador]

Removing Ivy league doctors because they propose different takes than the government narrative should scare the hell out of any liberty loving American.  When the man whose name is on the MRNA patent is removed for disinformation there is a real problem.

[Mike Parrish]

Musk has sure turned out to be a shitbag.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64579267

[El Luchador]

3 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said:

Musk has sure turned out to be a shitbag.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64579267

Not allowing your products to be used for killing people makes him a shitbag?

[El Luchador]

2 hours ago, Jason Bryant said:

User experience has gone down the shitter. I use(d) Blue because I don’t want to fat-finger a stat because, you know, phones/autocorrect/etc. and that won’t even work. Locked into a stuck profile because I changed my image - which used to take seconds.

They’ve gone and effed it all up.

Are you saying Twitter no long functions properly? 

[Nailbender]

50 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

Because elections are rigged, people die, people get sick,  people are scammed, child porn is distributed and so on and so forth.  Assuming it was your company, I wouldn't have any options.  I can criticize you, likely on your own platform.  If you were king for a day, how would you decide what to filter?

       I don't want child porn distributed. Preventing speech that break laws or facilitates breaking the law would be a good guide. Other than that I don't understand most of your other examples?

     I don't see how having some arbitrary person or a computer program hiding certain speech is helpful in any way. You don't think society exposing it as wrong or bad would be more effective? 

 

[Nailbender]

6 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said:

Musk has sure turned out to be a shitbag.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64579267

You have to be the most partisan person on this board. 

[Mike Parrish]

Just now, Nailbender said:

       I don't want child porn distributed. Preventing speech that break laws or facilitates breaking the law would be a good guide. Other than that I don't understand most of your other examples?

     I don't see how having some arbitrary person or a computer program hiding certain speech is helpful in any way. You don't think society exposing it as wrong or bad would be more effective? 

 

Does Twitter get to make the rules about what content it hosts on its private property?

[headshuck]

All depends on how you look at it.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/news/spacex-restricts-ukraine-from-weaponizing-starlink-internet/?amp

[Nailbender]

Just now, Mike Parrish said:

Does Twitter get to make the rules about what content it hosts on its private property?

Of course it does. Did I make an argument that it shouldn't?

[El Luchador]

5 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said:

Does Twitter get to make the rules about what content it hosts on its private property?

Yes but when they colluded with the government then the government was breaking the law,  also they have an obligation to provide equal and consistent applications of it policies. There is an agreement that they need to hold up their end of. 

Edited February 9, 2023 by El Luchador

[Mike Parrish]

3 minutes ago, Nailbender said:

Of course it does. Did I make an argument that it shouldn't?

There's been a lot of "Buh mah free speech" screeching on here with mentions of criminal liability and first amendment ramifications.

Twitter is a private company that can decide what they allow, outside of illegality, on their property.

I don't currently like how they're deciding things, but that's something different.

Glad to see you're not on that side of things.

[Mike Parrish]

2 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Yes but when the colluded with the government then the government was breaking the law,  also they have an obligation to provide equal and consistent applications of it policies. There is an agreement that they need to hold up their end of. 

Which law was broken?

Cite the statute and give a cause of action.

[El Luchador]

8 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said:

Which law was broken?

Cite the statute and give a cause of action.

You can't be serious. 

[Mike Parrish]

4 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

You can't be serious. 

You said, "the government was breaking the law".

I think it's reasonable to ask, "Which law was broken?" and "How would that be prosecuted?"

Otherwise, you're just talking out your ass.

You also seem to think, "they have an obligation to provide equal and consistent applications of it policies". Twitter has no obligation to do this.

It's a company owned website. Private property. It would be nice.

Edited February 9, 2023 by Mike Parrish