A Thought On Russian Boycotts

[Husker_Du]

i don't know why i was thinking about this last night but...

just after the war broke out a ton of companies pulled out of russia.

but part of the Russian/China platform is nationalism.

with international corporations (esp in food and beverage) pulling out, doesn't that open markets domestically for RUS owned businesses?

isn't that exactly what Russia wants?

[Mike Parrish]

1 hour ago, Husker_Du said:

i don't know why i was thinking about this last night but...

just after the war broke out a ton of companies pulled out of russia.

but part of the Russian/China platform is nationalism.

with international corporations (esp in food and beverage) pulling out, doesn't that open markets domestically for RUS owned businesses?

isn't that exactly what Russia wants?

They don't have the ability to build factories any more.

Most food preparation machinery has ICs that will fall under dual use.

Machine tools are unavailable, so they can't even build their own.

 

Edited May 17, 2023 by Mike Parrish

[Husker_Du]

what are 'IC's' ? 

[mspart]

Integrated circuits?  Just a guess. 

mspart

[Mike Parrish]

12 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

what are 'IC's' ? 

Yes, chips.

 

[Offthemat]

They’re getting their stuff from china.  And iran. 

Edited May 18, 2023 by Offthemat

[Mike Parrish]

3 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

They’re getting their stuff from china.  And iran. 

Enough to be allowed to be used to develop Russian civilian businesses?

They are taking the antilock braking chips out of auto lines to use in the defense industry.

[Offthemat]

9 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said:

Enough to be allowed to be used to develop Russian civilian businesses?

They are taking the antilock braking chips out of auto lines to use in the defense industry.

I don’t know, maybe if you’re well enough connected.  Not that long ago, heaters were pricy options for russian cars.  

[Mike Parrish]

1 minute ago, Offthemat said:

I don’t know, maybe if you’re well enough connected.  Not that long ago, heaters were pricy options for russian cars.  

When Russia doesn't have enough ICs for their armor and munitions factories?

I doubt it.

[Offthemat]

Why can’t they get them from china and taiwan, just like we do?

[Mike Parrish]

Just now, Offthemat said:

Why can’t they get them from china and taiwan, just like we do?

Sanctions.

[Offthemat]

I don’t believe that for a minute.  

[Le duke]

I don’t believe that for a minute.  

Here’s a (open source) picture of a vehicle stolen from a Russian private citizen and modified for military use by Russian conscripts. There are plenty of examples of this. You’re telling me you don’t believe they are having trouble sourcing and producing military equipment, when THIS is happening?




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[Mike Parrish]

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/05/18/russia-has-lost-50k-scientists-in-5-years-ras-a81196

[Plasmodium]

23 hours ago, Le duke said:

Here’s a (open source) picture of a vehicle stolen from a Russian private citizen and modified for military use by Russian conscripts. There are plenty of examples of this. You’re telling me you don’t believe they are having trouble sourcing and producing military equipment, when THIS is happening?




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I don't know if this is real or not, but this killdozer is.  A dude with a properly dispute from Granby, CO built it and ran roughshod over town.

[mspart]

Just a copy cat!

mspart

[Mike Parrish]

Look up 'cope cages' on google to get an idea about how Russians are trying to up-armor their existing vehicles.

[Le duke]

21 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said:

Look up 'cope cages' on google to get an idea about how Russians are trying to up-armor their existing vehicles.

They aren't effective, as it turns out.

Edited May 19, 2023 by Le duke

[Mike Parrish]

22 minutes ago, Le duke said:

They aren't effective, as it turns out.

Not so much.
Especially against modern ATGMs.

[Mike Parrish]

Looks like Wagner is leaving Ukraine.

Fixed link:

 

Edited May 19, 2023 by Mike Parrish