Any day now we should reach the critical mass of gun ownership by "law-abiding citizens" where we become safe

[El Luchador]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:05 PM, VakAttack said:

This is literally just made up.

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So all these stories I posted are fiction? How many more do you need? I can find tthousands.

[El Luchador]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:07 PM, VakAttack said:

Here's some numbers for you:  using all the anecdotes you've laid out here, you still haven't reached the number of people victimized yesterday, in that one particular shooting in Texas, the literal gun capitol of the country.

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Then your math is as bad as your analytical skills, but tell me how many more you need.

[El Luchador]

 

 

[VakAttack]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:06 PM, El Luchador said:

You have difficulty analyzing data. That was my exact point, except I can site enough anecdotal evidence to create a trend.  The numbers are clearly on the side of defensive gun use, and the Heritage foundation is quoting the CDC.  

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LOL at you pretending to analyze data when you're literally just posting a link to something the Heritage Foundation has spoon-fed to you and you just choose to take it as gospel.

[VakAttack]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:07 PM, El Luchador said:

So all these stories I posted are fiction? How many more do you need? I can find tthousands.

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No, the idea that there are more people defending themselves then victims of gun violence is just you making it up.  You have literally not provided any data saying that.

[El Luchador]

 

 

[VakAttack]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:09 PM, El Luchador said:

Then your math is as bad as your analytical skills, but tell me how many more you need.

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Oh, look, more idiocy and just claiming things without backing it up.  Now post another Youtube video.

EDIT:  I could not have timed this more perfectly, since the moron posted another Youtube video.

Edited May 7, 2023 by VakAttack

[El Luchador]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:10 PM, VakAttack said:

LOL at you pretending to analyze data when you're literally just posting a link to something the Heritage Foundation has spoon-fed to you and you just choose to take it as gospel.

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It's  a study from the CDC. How is it not legitimate. 

[Plasmodium]

Find that one where a HS kid needed to wait until he was 18 to buy two assault rifles so he could invade an elementary school and slaughter 19 children.

[El Luchador]

 

 

[VakAttack]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:12 PM, El Luchador said:

It's  a study from the CDC. How is it not legitimate. 

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It is NOT a study from the CDC.  Please, cite the CDC study.  Because let me tell you what the CDC says on the matter, taken directly from their wesbite:

 

Although definitions of defensive gun use vary, it is generally defined as the use of a firearm to protect and defend oneself, family, other people, and/or property against crime or victimization.

Estimates of defensive gun use vary depending on the questions asked, populations studied, timeframe, and other factors related to study design. Given the wide variability in estimates, additional research is necessary to understand defensive gun use prevalence, frequency, circumstances, and outcomes.

[El Luchador]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:13 PM, Plasmodium said:

Find that one where a HS kid needed to wait until he was 18 to buy two assault rifles so he could invade an elementary school and slaughter 19 children.

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This is a cultural issue,  this is a direct result of leftist thinking. The reality is democrats should be prohibited from owning guns because they are the ones doing the mass shooting.

[VakAttack]

The link where the Heritage Foundation claims that the CDC says that "Americans use their firearms defensively between 3 million and 500,000 times per year" is this:

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent

 

Go ahead, click on the link.

Edited May 7, 2023 by VakAttack

[El Luchador]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:17 PM, VakAttack said:

The link where the Heritage Foundation claims that the CDC says that "AMeridans use their firearms defensively between 3 million and 500,000 times per year" is this:

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent

 

Go ahead, click on the link.

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Not there.

[El Luchador]

 

 

 

[VakAttack]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:18 PM, El Luchador said:

Not there.

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That's the link on the Heritage Foundation page that YOU cited.

[El Luchador]

 

 

 

[El Luchador]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:20 PM, VakAttack said:

That's the link on the Heritage Foundation page that YOU cited.

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That was a link is a story.  The information is not in question.  It can easily be found. 

[El Luchador]

Again I maintain the numbers are overwhelming on my side. But when I  show you those numbers you simply deny them because all you have is denial. 

[VakAttack]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:25 PM, El Luchador said:

That was a link is a story.  The information is not in question.  It can easily be found. 

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LOL.  That was a link to nothing.  You cited it.  ANd you have nothing to back it up.

Here's something that provides actual data.

https://www.thetrace.org/2022/06/defensive-gun-use-data-good-guys-with-guns/

[VakAttack]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:27 PM, El Luchador said:

Again I maintain the numbers are overwhelming on my side. But when I  show you those numbers you simply deny them because all you have is denial. 

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You're not showing numbers, fool.

[El Luchador]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:28 PM, VakAttack said:

You're not showing numbers, fool.

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for you.

 

 

[Plasmodium]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:16 PM, El Luchador said:

This is a cultural issue,  this is a direct result of leftist thinking. The reality is democrats should be prohibited from owning guns because they are the ones doing the mass shooting.

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Isn't it their right to own and open carry an assault rifle?

[El Luchador]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:28 PM, VakAttack said:

LOL.  That was a link to nothing.  You cited it.  ANd you have nothing to back it up.

Here's something that provides actual data.

https://www.thetrace.org/2022/06/defensive-gun-use-data-good-guys-with-guns/

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This is complete bs. This has been debunked time and time again. This is a prime example of data manipulation. This is simply a dishonest analysis. 

[El Luchador]

  On 5/7/2023 at 2:36 PM, Plasmodium said:

Isn't it their right to own and open carry an assault rifle?

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What's an assault rifle?