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I'm not convinced Spencer would've been any healthier at PSU

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...but I do think he would've been better off at PSU in general.

The reason: in addition to the injuries, it seems the pressure of being the guy that was supposed to "save" Iowa wrestling has gotten to him (which is a lot of pressure!). 

At PSU he would've been just another of their national champs and wouldn't have had to have the spotlight mostly to himself, which he has now admitted he doesn't want.   I mean the dude is 24 years old and his dad is giving interviews for him...

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Jimmy Cinnabon NCAA Champion

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There are notable differences in training philosophies between Iowa and other programs.  Take a look at HR and you'll see many Iowa fans talking about how injuries seem to hit them more than other teams.  It's not just a Spencer issue...many star Hawkeyes have struggled to stay healthy throughout a season and there's a reason for that.

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1 hour ago, TylerDurden said:

Why are 75% of posts troll posts? 

 

Yeah, off-season.  But I’m being serious.  I don’t think I had this opinion until his barstool interview then his dad’s yesterday 

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3 minutes ago, D3 for LU said:

Mental state vs physical state.

Seems logical.

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Yeah Cael probably would have sent him to the same witch doctor in California that cured Gilman’s foot

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Interviewed_at_Weehawken Big Brain

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39 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

There are notable differences in training philosophies between Iowa and other programs.  Take a look at HR and you'll see many Iowa fans talking about how injuries seem to hit them more than other teams.  It's not just a Spencer issue...many star Hawkeyes have struggled to stay healthy throughout a season and there's a reason for that.

!00% agreed.  Robbie Howard, RBY, Starocci, and Kerkvliet all look 100% healthy and are really getting after it at the US Open this week!

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41 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

!00% agreed.  Robbie Howard, RBY, Starocci, and Kerkvliet all look 100% healthy and are really getting after it at the US Open this week!

Yep. It’s possible Iowa might have an issue with guys wearing down a bit by the end of the season, but for one that wasn’t Lee’s problem. And PSU has had no shortage of guys with “traditional” injuries

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25 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Yep. It’s possible Iowa might have an issue with guys wearing down a bit by the end of the season, but for one that wasn’t Lee’s problem. And PSU has had no shortage of guys with “traditional” injuries

I believe the correct current terminology is Cis Injuries

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1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

!00% agreed.  Robbie Howard, RBY, Starocci, and Kerkvliet all look 100% healthy and are really getting after it at the US Open this week!

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6 hours ago, 1032004 said:

...but I do think he would've been better off at PSU in general.

The reason: in addition to the injuries, it seems the pressure of being the guy that was supposed to "save" Iowa wrestling has gotten to him (which is a lot of pressure!). 

At PSU he would've been just another of their national champs and wouldn't have had to have the spotlight mostly to himself, which he has now admitted he doesn't want.   I mean the dude is 24 years old and his dad is giving interviews for him...

I dunno.  Compare PSU and Iowa's handling of Suriano and Lee, respectively.

Suriano wanted to wrestle in the postseason. PSU would have loved him to, but thought he was too injured.  Suriano disagreed, strongly.  PSU held its ground, and in the resulting dust-up, Suriano transferred.  PSU showed it'd rather lose one of their top guys than let him wrestle with too much of an injury.

Lee?  Just the opposite.  Lee gets injured right before NCAAs, and Iowa throws him out there anyway. In fact, time after time, Iowa let Lee wrestle while badly injured.  How much did Lee exacerbate his injuries by wrestling in these situations?  I have no doubt that Lee, like Suriano, wanted to go.  That's what thoroughbreds do.  But Iowa didn't say no.  Its the job of coaches to put the wrestler before the program, and hold them back if that's what the trainers/doctors recommend -- to the team's detriment if necessary. 

I thought it was sort of poetic that the most recent withdrawal happened just before a match between Suriano and Lee.  Not that we'll ever know for sure if Surano would've exacerbated his injuries if PSU threw him out there when they shouldn't have, or if Lee would be healthier today if Iowa prioritized Lee's long-term health over their short-term lusting for a title.  I have my suspicions.  But the bottom line is that on the eve of Worlds, and just a year before the Olympics,  Surano can go, and Lee can't. 

But hey, at least Iowa got its team title.  That's all that matters right?

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2 minutes ago, BAC said:

 

Suriano wanted to wrestle in the postseason. PSU would have loved him to, but thought he was too injured.  Suriano disagreed, strongly.  PSU held its ground, and in the resulting dust-up, Suriano transferred.  PSU showed it'd rather lose one of their top guys than let him wrestle with too much of an injury.

 

Brady Berge.  Shakur Rasheed.  Daniel Kerkvliet. RBY.  Now Starocci.

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2 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Been meaning to ask you, do you have to pay to get on the rivals forum?

Not the public wrestling boards of 'Go Iowa Awesome' or 'Nittany Nation' as they have somewhat recently been renamed.

Once you create an account, it may act like all content is premium.  Just logout and log back in, and that issue should be resolved.

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7 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Been meaning to ask you, do you have to pay to get on the rivals forum?

If asking about OSU, the wrestling is free but fb & bb believe cost $s, I'm cheap so haven't tried those.

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pokemonster NCAA All-American

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Did Spencer's dad state why he was giving the interview and now Spencer himself? Seems.... strange to have your dad do that. Askren even commented on FRL how Spencer is focusing entirely too heavily on what others think and not focusing on what matters. I think he's mentally hitting a wall of some sort. 

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If he'd gone to Penn State, who is to say he wouldn't have been hit by a car and killed on his way back from Primante Bros on Hiester?

(isn't this how what ifs and speculation work?)

 

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